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China turns on your game timer for those under 18

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Stay on topic regarding the curfew on gaming. Just because it has "China" in the title does not mean it's an opportunity to rant about unrelated political issues.

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9 hours ago, bruny06 said:

I like this, chinese players will not be as skilled, now. Kidding aside, I wonder if this will work, since VPNs are a thing and it will not work for offline games. It should be the parents' job, anyway, to limit the amount of hours their kid spends playing games. But even then, just simply taking their gaming away, might not fix the issue. Speaking from experience, as a kid, I was uninterested in school. I had a laptop that I was using a lot of the time and, when I got bad results, which was not a surprise, my mom would take the laptop. I still wouldn't study. It's a matter of interest as well. Fortunately, I grew up, realised education was crucial, studied and landed a good job in IT.

dumb ass chines, i learnt to study instead of game on my own, why can't the chinese do that.


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11 hours ago, bruny06 said:

I like this, chinese players will not be as skilled, now. Kidding aside, I wonder if this will work, since VPNs are a thing an

VPN's are probably blocked by China. Keep in mind China is very controlling over their internet services. They block content all the time and if VPN's are not blocked now, its only a mtter of time.

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Haha, what? I don't think you have any grasp of how politics work in China at all. This will have no effect at all. In China, it's do as you're told, ok boss.

I'm glad I'm aging now, and won't be around for China's rise to power in the future.

 

10 hours ago, Tegos said:

Slightly unrelated but I remember this case from a good few years ago where a man in China killed his friend because he borrowed a rare weapon from him in an MMO and then sold it.

In a country where it's better to kill someone you might accidentally hit with your car than offer aid, this doesn't surprise me at all.

8 hours ago, paddy-stone said:

Yep, same here in the UK.

The UK is far from China.

3 hours ago, mr moose said:

Never ceases to amaze how people just blame parents.  Clearly that's the easy answer and doesn't require people to get invested in the problem.  Don;t like whats happening in society, must be the parents, don't like whats happening in schools, must be the parents.  Parents aren't allowed to parent anymore,  no one realizes this, but physical discipline is not allowed, raising your voice is not allowed,  taking things away is not allowed.  We have entered a world of precious snowflakes and all forms of parenting is now singled out as abuse of one description or another.  And the biggest issue here is all the finger pointing is done by squirts who are neither parents nor have formal education on the topic. 

 

How about if you are not a parent you don't post your opinions like they are undeniable facts.

Physical discipline doesn't really work. Thats already been proven in dogs.

I haven't seen anyone get blasted for raising their voice to a child.


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10 hours ago, Tegos said:

Slightly unrelated but I remember this case from a good few years ago where a man in China killed his friend because he borrowed a rare weapon from him in an MMO and then sold it.

So... He stole it then...

 

8 hours ago, Orangeator said:

This is true, in other cases. In this case, it's only applicable to those who are under the age of 18... Aka, parents are at fault.

Not always true as a legitimate addiction has nothing to do with parenting. If the child wants to do something they'll do their best to make it happen. Parenting is a critical factor but it's far from the only one that leads to potential issues.  

 

8 hours ago, HarryNyquist said:

Some parents just shouldn't be parents.

 

Also, this is China we're talking about. The government stepping in and ruining everything for everyone is kind of how they've operated for years.

Both fair points?

 

4 hours ago, mr moose said:

Never ceases to amaze how people just blame parents.  Clearly that's the easy answer and doesn't require people to get invested in the problem.  Don;t like whats happening in society, must be the parents, don't like whats happening in schools, must be the parents.  Parents aren't allowed to parent anymore,  no one realizes this, but physical discipline is not allowed, raising your voice is not allowedtaking things away is not allowed.  We have entered a world of precious snowflakes and all forms of parenting is now singled out as abuse of one description or another.  And the biggest issue here is all the finger pointing is done by squirts who are neither parents nor have formal education on the topic. 

 

How about if you are not a parent you don't post your opinions like they are undeniable facts.

You're not wrong in that a child is directly effected deeply by all of their surroundings, the parents being at the forefront. There are many ways of disciplining/rewarding your children that doesn't involve physical abuse, which isn't an effective means anyway. There's absolutely nothing wrong with raising your voice, it's a healthy way to express yourself. There's nothing wrong with taking something away as long as it's not a necessity. You have a right to raise your child as you see fit, not everyone will agree with your practices but they're entitled to their opinions as long as they're not forcing it on others (which some do, sadly). 

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That's ok, there's nothing but toxic players in online games.


I tend to reply with memes because I lack social skills and don't know how to express myself correctly.

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40 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Physical discipline doesn't really work. Thats already been proven in dogs.

I haven't seen anyone get blasted for raising their voice to a child.

Here's the thing, it does work if the situation requires it (have spoken to professionals about it, I don't care if no one believes me as it's not the popular opinion and vastly not understood). 

 

Also when you work in social welfare long enough you get to see all sorts of stupid shit being passed of as "professional" advice for raising children.


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11 minutes ago, Ehmc130 said:

You're not wrong in that a child is directly effected deeply by all of their surroundings, the parents being at the forefront. There are many ways of disciplining/rewarding your children that doesn't involve physical abuse, which isn't an effective means anyway. There's absolutely nothing wrong with raising your voice, it's a healthy way to express yourself. There's nothing wrong with taking something away as long as it's not a necessity. You have a right to raise your child as you see fit, not everyone will agree with your practices but they're entitled to their opinions as long as they're not forcing it on others (which some do, sadly). 

Unfortunately as I have worked with early school children for some time now I have seen that side more often than I wish to.


QuicK and DirtY. Read the CoC it's like a guide on how not to be moron.  Also I don't have an issue with the VS series.

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1 hour ago, Donut417 said:

VPN's are probably blocked by China. Keep in mind China is very controlling over their internet services. They block content all the time and if VPN's are not blocked now, its only a mtter of time.

You won't get arrested for using a VPN, you might however get penalized for hosting unlicensed VPN servers.


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The population of China is 1.3 billion, how the Chinese government catch people who didn't follow the rule? 

They selling engineering sample CPU, false hardware on online store, and pirate download.

So I don't think Chinese people will be upset about this.

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2 hours ago, Age of 9394 said:

The population of China is 1.3 billion, how the Chinese government catch people who didn't follow the rule? 

They selling engineering sample CPU, false hardware on online store, and pirate download.

So I don't think Chinese people will be upset about this.

you act like china hasn't long ago figured out how to be totalitarian to every single last one of their citizens

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11 hours ago, Ehmc130 said:

So... He stole it then...

Basically, yes.

The guy got a rare weapon on a game called Legend of Mir 3. His friend asked if he could borrow it for a while (presumably to level up or something), and then sold it for 7,200 yuan, which was about 500 Euro at the time.

The original owner of the weapon tried going to the police, but at the time there were no laws in China covering property in online games. His friend offered to hand over the money he got from selling it, but the owner of the weapon instead just broke into his friend's home and stabbed him in the chest. He got a life sentence for it.

 

11 hours ago, dizmo said:

In a country where it's better to kill someone you might accidentally hit with your car than offer aid, this doesn't surprise me at all.

Wait, how's that work?


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Haha, less gametime in week than many do daily. LULW

Great place. 


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Reminds me of that Simon Pegg movie, The World's End, Aliens try and curb humanities self destructive patterns by replacing them with robotic clones.

No Spoilers but it basically ends with them telling the Aliens to fuck off.

 

Same can be said for this, if people want to spend 20 hours a day in an internet cafe and explode like the glorious supernova they are then let them.

Too much bubble wrap is a bad thing, it makes the species weaker.

Governments should let people fuck their own lives up, it's their choice to be fucked up!


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The UK is far from China.

No shit Sherlock.

 

I was referring to it being similar in the fact that stuff is done without the citizens consent, I'm positive that you have commented in a few of the threads about imposing IP blocks, imposing an adult material block etc etc.


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In China, privacy is not a issue that is raised like never, so I am not surprised this regulation. However, a lot of laws/regulation in China is not enforced simply because there is no profit to be made by the government.

the first reaction i have is what is stopping the family from using the parents' id to register the account? they probly wont but, you kid can always just remeber their parent ID number easily, i know my parent's id number since junior high school. and the second, since there is not huge profit to be made and kinda hurting the gaming industry (keep in mind a lot of the game company is Chinese owned), i dont see this to be enforced. This regulation is probly just for show.

 

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12 minutes ago, RuffRuffmcgruff said:

Reminds me of that Simon Pegg movie, The World's End, Aliens try and curb humanities self destructive patterns by replacing them with robotic clones.

No Spoilers but it basically ends with them telling the Aliens to fuck off.

 

Same can be said for this, if people want to spend 20 hours a day in an internet cafe and explode like the glorious supernova they are then let them.

Too much bubble wrap is a bad thing, it makes the species weaker.

Governments should let people fuck their own lives up, it's their choice to be fucked up!

But there are patterns that ppl lacking social life has better chance become insane and go out hurting other ppl (just from my ass, not necessarily true). Then what do you do? you just arrest those who did when you know spending 20 hr/day on the internet is the cause? there will be public pressure on more regulations. Gun control is a good example. a lot of country do it because it's a known issue,

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1 minute ago, Devin92 said:

ppl lacking social life has better chance become insane and go out hurting other ppl

As someone who has no social life, I'd say that's not entirely true.


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On 11/7/2019 at 9:34 AM, Orangeator said:

That comes down to personal responsibility and piss poor parenting... This is not the governments role to step in. Total over reach.

Sad to say but the level of education in China is far inferior to more developed country. I know you and a lot of users on this forum won’t get the reasoning and the ideology of the Chinese populous backing this law, but that’s what is needed over there.

 

As for your overreach opinion, I personally agree with you since I had the liberty of enjoying the freedom of doing whatever I wish in the west. However, it’s a different world they live over there.

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21 hours ago, mr moose said:

Never ceases to amaze how people just blame parents.  Clearly that's the easy answer and doesn't require people to get invested in the problem.  Don;t like whats happening in society, must be the parents, don't like whats happening in schools, must be the parents.  Parents aren't allowed to parent anymore,  no one realizes this, but physical discipline is not allowed, raising your voice is not allowed,  taking things away is not allowed.  We have entered a world of precious snowflakes and all forms of parenting is now singled out as abuse of one description or another.  And the biggest issue here is all the finger pointing is done by squirts who are neither parents nor have formal education on the topic. 

 

How about if you are not a parent you don't post your opinions like they are undeniable facts.

 

 

 

 

I think the law is pretty fair. More than 90 minutes on a weekday and 3 hours on a weekend, surely thats plenty? I think the law must be targeting extreme cases regardless. 

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Hmmmm, have they been taking notes from me? 

 

What blasphemy 


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4 hours ago, Devin92 said:

But there are patterns that ppl lacking social life has better chance become insane and go out hurting other ppl (just from my ass, not necessarily true). Then what do you do? you just arrest those who did when you know spending 20 hr/day on the internet is the cause? there will be public pressure on more regulations. Gun control is a good example. a lot of country do it because it's a known issue,

Are you joking? Why would you think that the people are the people going our and shooting people? I don't believe I have seen any evidence supporting this. I will say this there is plenty of evidence of people going ape shit when they are addicted to games and suddenly have them taken away. I would wager a law like this would be more likely to incite violence than decrease it. 

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2 hours ago, floofer said:

I think the law is pretty fair. More than 90 minutes on a weekday and 3 hours on a weekend, surely thats plenty? I think the law must be targeting extreme cases regardless. 

Probably, I just get tired of everything even remotely related to this turning into an episode of blame it on the parents.  People really need to think harder about society, games and the internet, the need for better education and most importantly the effects of being low SES.  


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13 hours ago, Tegos said:

Wait, how's that work?

You'll get in less trouble if they're dead. Plus you won't have to pay for medical bills, lost wages, etc etc.


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