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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi, is 600W power supply will be enough for ryzen 9 3900x and rtx 2080 super? or should I buy a new 750W?

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depends... what model psu is it?


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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, LukeSavenije said:

depends... what model psu is it?

SilentiumPC Vero M1 600W, I bought it like 2y ago

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2 minutes ago, Bezolek said:

SilentiumPC Vero M1 600W, I bought it like 2y ago

oh god no.

Please get a new PSU.

 

Chose one from Tier A, A+ or even S with at least 650w.

 


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Just now, FloRolf said:

oh god no.

Please get a new PSU.

Everyone recommended my this PSU, why it's so bad?

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1 minute ago, Bezolek said:

Everyone recommended my this PSU, why it's so bad?

Use it if you want to.


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2 minutes ago, Bezolek said:

Everyone recommended my this PSU,

Who would recommend that PSU? It was not great 2 years ago and it's not great now.

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Just now, Bezolek said:

Everyone recommended my this PSU, why it's so bad?

i've dived a bit deeper into it

 

it's not horrible per say, but certainly not something i'd use with a 2080 super and a 3900x


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MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

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1 minute ago, Bezolek said:

Everyone recommended my this PSU, why it's so bad?

Who's everyone?

 

The PSU has no protection for overload and over-temperature on the 12V rail so yeah it's simply not a PSU you pair with a R9 3900X and 2080 Super... simple as that.


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CPU: Intel Core i9 9900 @4.75ghz |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Shadow Rock Slim |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z390M Gaming mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3400mhzCL15 Viper Steel |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition RTX 2080 Ti |~| PSU: beQuiet! Straight Power 11 80Plus Gold  |~|  Boot:  Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2x2TB SanDisk SSD Ultra 3D |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Viotek GN34CB 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.


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CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

Who's everyone?

 

The PSU has no protection for overload and over-temperature on the 12V rail so yeah it's simply not a PSU you pair with a R9 3900X and 2080 Super... simple as that.

It was 2y ago, my old PSU died. My budet was limited so I bught what I could aford. It was very popular PSU back then. 

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10 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

i've dived a bit deeper into it

 

it's not horrible per say, but certainly not something i'd use with a 2080 super and a 3900x

What good PSU would you recommend for ~130$.

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5 minutes ago, Bezolek said:

It was 2y ago, my old PSU died. My budet was limited so I bught what I could aford. It was very popular PSU back then. 

And now you're putting together a very expensive high end system you shouldn't put at risk with a mediocre PSU.

 

What are you even going to do with this computer? because if the main focus is gaming you might want to rethink this match.


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CPU:  Intel Core i9 9900K @5.0ghz  |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 |~|  MOBO: Asus Z390M ROG Maximus XI GENE |~| RAM: 32gb 3333mhz CL15 G.Skill Trident Z RGB |~| GPU: nVidia TITAN V  |~| PSU: beQuiet! Dark Power Pro 11 80Plus Platinum  |~| Boot: Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2X4TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Iron Wolf + 2X2TB SSD SanDisk Ultra |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Acer Predator X34 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
 
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CPU: Intel Core i9 9900 @4.75ghz |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Shadow Rock Slim |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z390M Gaming mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3400mhzCL15 Viper Steel |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition RTX 2080 Ti |~| PSU: beQuiet! Straight Power 11 80Plus Gold  |~|  Boot:  Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2x2TB SanDisk SSD Ultra 3D |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Viotek GN34CB 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.


HTPC / "Console of the house":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

And now you're putting together a very expensive high end system you shouldn't put at risk with a mediocre PSU.

 

What are you even going to do with this computer? because if the main focus is gaming you might want to rethink this match.

I have like 2500$ saved to spend on pc. I would mostly game on it. 

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Just now, Bezolek said:

I have like 2,5k saved to spend on pc. I would mostly game on it. 

What monitor are you going for? as in display settings?

 

You see the R9 3900X games the same as a R5 3600 which costs far less, the R9 3900X is a content creation, professional workload CPU not a gaming processor, there's no true gains from a gaming perspective by using it over the much cheaper R5.

 

It is recommended to look if you can find discounted i7 9700KF and alike which does provide superior gaming performance.

 

The RTX 2080 Super also brings very little extra performance facing the RTX 2070 Super and RTX 2080 vanilla to where it's a bad money management to consider it... to an extend you either go all in with the RTX 2080 Ti or then get the better value half the price RX 5700XT / RTX 2070 Super... the RTX 2080 Super is kinda on a dead end.


Workstation Rig:
CPU:  Intel Core i9 9900K @5.0ghz  |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 |~|  MOBO: Asus Z390M ROG Maximus XI GENE |~| RAM: 32gb 3333mhz CL15 G.Skill Trident Z RGB |~| GPU: nVidia TITAN V  |~| PSU: beQuiet! Dark Power Pro 11 80Plus Platinum  |~| Boot: Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2X4TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Iron Wolf + 2X2TB SSD SanDisk Ultra |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Acer Predator X34 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
 
Personal Use Rig:
CPU: Intel Core i9 9900 @4.75ghz |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Shadow Rock Slim |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z390M Gaming mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3400mhzCL15 Viper Steel |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition RTX 2080 Ti |~| PSU: beQuiet! Straight Power 11 80Plus Gold  |~|  Boot:  Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2x2TB SanDisk SSD Ultra 3D |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Viotek GN34CB 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.


HTPC / "Console of the house":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
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Posted · Original PosterOP
7 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

What monitor are you going for? as in display settings?

 

You see the R9 3900X games the same as a R5 3600 which costs far less, the R9 3900X is a content creation, professional workload CPU not a gaming processor, there's no true gains from a gaming perspective by using it over the much cheaper R5.

 

It is recommended to look if you can find discounted i7 9700KF and alike which does provide superior gaming performance.

 

The RTX 2080 Super also brings very little extra performance facing the RTX 2070 Super and RTX 2080 vanilla to where it's a bad money management to consider it... to an extend you either go all in with the RTX 2080 Ti or then get the better value half the price RX 5700XT / RTX 2070 Super... the RTX 2080 Super is kinda on a dead end.

1440p, 144hz. 

I agree with you that intel would be better. However, it's more likly to upgrade GPU rather than CPU, so I think spending more on CPU(with more cores) is better now. I planned to buy one expensive machine for  6/8 years, and just upgrade GPU. 

 

In the long run 12/24 would be much better than intel's 8/8. Especially when games are starting to use more cores. 

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14 minutes ago, Bezolek said:

What good PSU would you recommend for ~130$.

I'd say something from that list at tier a+ should be possible for you at that budget, if not go for something from tier a


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Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC:

Spoiler

CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

Spoiler

PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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Just now, Bezolek said:

so I think spending more on CPU(with more cores) is better now.

Not really, it's actually worse. I would get a R5 3600 and that's it since most games don't use 8 cores and maybe just maybe they will start to use it by 2021 because of the new console generation it still matters that 12 cores surpasses it and then as always the only way to keep increasing your gaming performance is through faster cores.

 

This means that even by 2022 games, mostly just the triple A ones, will be octa-core depended and you'll see the R7 3700X still gaming the exact same as the R9 3900X with the i9 9900K still coming on front.

 

So the true logical solution is cheap up now and get a Zen 3 or Intel 10nm here in 2 or 3 years that will perform far greater in games. Future proof is always an illusion. You cannot realistic stay on the edge for 8 years by buying the most expensive consumer hardware there is, it's not how it works.


Workstation Rig:
CPU:  Intel Core i9 9900K @5.0ghz  |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 |~|  MOBO: Asus Z390M ROG Maximus XI GENE |~| RAM: 32gb 3333mhz CL15 G.Skill Trident Z RGB |~| GPU: nVidia TITAN V  |~| PSU: beQuiet! Dark Power Pro 11 80Plus Platinum  |~| Boot: Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2X4TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Iron Wolf + 2X2TB SSD SanDisk Ultra |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Acer Predator X34 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
 
Personal Use Rig:
CPU: Intel Core i9 9900 @4.75ghz |~| Cooling: beQuiet! Shadow Rock Slim |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z390M Gaming mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3400mhzCL15 Viper Steel |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition RTX 2080 Ti |~| PSU: beQuiet! Straight Power 11 80Plus Gold  |~|  Boot:  Intel 660p 2TB NVMe |~| Storage: 2x2TB SanDisk SSD Ultra 3D |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: Viotek GN34CB 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.


HTPC / "Console of the house":

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
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Posted · Original PosterOP
10 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Not really, it's actually worse. I would get a R5 3600 and that's it since most games don't use 8 cores and maybe just maybe they will start to use it by 2021 because of the new console generation it still matters that 12 cores surpasses it and then as always the only way to keep increasing your gaming performance is through faster cores.

 

This means that even by 2022 games, mostly just the triple A ones, will be octa-core depended and you'll see the R7 3700X still gaming the exact same as the R9 3900X with the i9 9900K still coming on front.

 

So the true logical solution is cheap up now and get a Zen 3 or Intel 10nm here in 2 or 3 years that will perform far greater in games. Future proof is always an illusion. You cannot realistic stay on the edge for 8 years by buying the most expensive consumer hardware there is, it's not how it works.

Last cpu ( i5-4670 )  lasted for 8 years, and I could play most of tripleA games at medium. So what would you recommend me to buy for 2500$? That ryzen 7 3700x, 2070super and 16GB 3600mhz ram.I would love to play some VR games and cyberpunk at ultra settings.Or that 2500$ would be a overkill for this tasks?

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