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Hi, is 600W power supply will be enough for ryzen 9 3900x and rtx 2080 super? or should I buy a new 750W?

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

depends... what model psu is it?

SilentiumPC Vero M1 600W, I bought it like 2y ago

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2 minutes ago, Bezolek said:

SilentiumPC Vero M1 600W, I bought it like 2y ago

oh god no.

Please get a new PSU.

 

Chose one from Tier A, A+ or even S with at least 650w.

 

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Just now, FloRolf said:

oh god no.

Please get a new PSU.

Everyone recommended my this PSU, why it's so bad?

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1 minute ago, Bezolek said:

Everyone recommended my this PSU, why it's so bad?

Use it if you want to.

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2 minutes ago, Bezolek said:

Everyone recommended my this PSU,

Who would recommend that PSU? It was not great 2 years ago and it's not great now.

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Just now, Bezolek said:

Everyone recommended my this PSU, why it's so bad?

i've dived a bit deeper into it

 

it's not horrible per say, but certainly not something i'd use with a 2080 super and a 3900x

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1 minute ago, Bezolek said:

Everyone recommended my this PSU, why it's so bad?

Who's everyone?

 

The PSU has no protection for overload and over-temperature on the 12V rail so yeah it's simply not a PSU you pair with a R9 3900X and 2080 Super... simple as that.

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CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

Who's everyone?

 

The PSU has no protection for overload and over-temperature on the 12V rail so yeah it's simply not a PSU you pair with a R9 3900X and 2080 Super... simple as that.

It was 2y ago, my old PSU died. My budet was limited so I bught what I could aford. It was very popular PSU back then. 

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10 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

i've dived a bit deeper into it

 

it's not horrible per say, but certainly not something i'd use with a 2080 super and a 3900x

What good PSU would you recommend for ~130$.

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5 minutes ago, Bezolek said:

It was 2y ago, my old PSU died. My budet was limited so I bught what I could aford. It was very popular PSU back then. 

And now you're putting together a very expensive high end system you shouldn't put at risk with a mediocre PSU.

 

What are you even going to do with this computer? because if the main focus is gaming you might want to rethink this match.

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CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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3 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

And now you're putting together a very expensive high end system you shouldn't put at risk with a mediocre PSU.

 

What are you even going to do with this computer? because if the main focus is gaming you might want to rethink this match.

I have like 2500$ saved to spend on pc. I would mostly game on it. 

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Just now, Bezolek said:

I have like 2,5k saved to spend on pc. I would mostly game on it. 

What monitor are you going for? as in display settings?

 

You see the R9 3900X games the same as a R5 3600 which costs far less, the R9 3900X is a content creation, professional workload CPU not a gaming processor, there's no true gains from a gaming perspective by using it over the much cheaper R5.

 

It is recommended to look if you can find discounted i7 9700KF and alike which does provide superior gaming performance.

 

The RTX 2080 Super also brings very little extra performance facing the RTX 2070 Super and RTX 2080 vanilla to where it's a bad money management to consider it... to an extend you either go all in with the RTX 2080 Ti or then get the better value half the price RX 5700XT / RTX 2070 Super... the RTX 2080 Super is kinda on a dead end.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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7 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

What monitor are you going for? as in display settings?

 

You see the R9 3900X games the same as a R5 3600 which costs far less, the R9 3900X is a content creation, professional workload CPU not a gaming processor, there's no true gains from a gaming perspective by using it over the much cheaper R5.

 

It is recommended to look if you can find discounted i7 9700KF and alike which does provide superior gaming performance.

 

The RTX 2080 Super also brings very little extra performance facing the RTX 2070 Super and RTX 2080 vanilla to where it's a bad money management to consider it... to an extend you either go all in with the RTX 2080 Ti or then get the better value half the price RX 5700XT / RTX 2070 Super... the RTX 2080 Super is kinda on a dead end.

1440p, 144hz. 

I agree with you that intel would be better. However, it's more likly to upgrade GPU rather than CPU, so I think spending more on CPU(with more cores) is better now. I planned to buy one expensive machine for  6/8 years, and just upgrade GPU. 

 

In the long run 12/24 would be much better than intel's 8/8. Especially when games are starting to use more cores. 

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14 minutes ago, Bezolek said:

What good PSU would you recommend for ~130$.

I'd say something from that list at tier a+ should be possible for you at that budget, if not go for something from tier a

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Just now, Bezolek said:

so I think spending more on CPU(with more cores) is better now.

Not really, it's actually worse. I would get a R5 3600 and that's it since most games don't use 8 cores and maybe just maybe they will start to use it by 2021 because of the new console generation it still matters that 12 cores surpasses it and then as always the only way to keep increasing your gaming performance is through faster cores.

 

This means that even by 2022 games, mostly just the triple A ones, will be octa-core depended and you'll see the R7 3700X still gaming the exact same as the R9 3900X with the i9 9900K still coming on front.

 

So the true logical solution is cheap up now and get a Zen 3 or Intel 10nm here in 2 or 3 years that will perform far greater in games. Future proof is always an illusion. You cannot realistic stay on the edge for 8 years by buying the most expensive consumer hardware there is, it's not how it works.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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10 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Not really, it's actually worse. I would get a R5 3600 and that's it since most games don't use 8 cores and maybe just maybe they will start to use it by 2021 because of the new console generation it still matters that 12 cores surpasses it and then as always the only way to keep increasing your gaming performance is through faster cores.

 

This means that even by 2022 games, mostly just the triple A ones, will be octa-core depended and you'll see the R7 3700X still gaming the exact same as the R9 3900X with the i9 9900K still coming on front.

 

So the true logical solution is cheap up now and get a Zen 3 or Intel 10nm here in 2 or 3 years that will perform far greater in games. Future proof is always an illusion. You cannot realistic stay on the edge for 8 years by buying the most expensive consumer hardware there is, it's not how it works.

Last cpu ( i5-4670 )  lasted for 8 years, and I could play most of tripleA games at medium. So what would you recommend me to buy for 2500$? That ryzen 7 3700x, 2070super and 16GB 3600mhz ram.I would love to play some VR games and cyberpunk at ultra settings.Or that 2500$ would be a overkill for this tasks?

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