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GabenJr

4K Video Editing PC on a BUDGET

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6 minutes ago, AdmiralKyrd said:

16GB for Premiere isn't be terrible, but if you take 16gb of ram into a 4K After Effects Comp you're gonna die. I don't know about others' experiences, but I have projects that simply require 12GB in the render farm to load without crashing.

Yeah I have used over 64Gbs of RAM in AE before. But that's mainly because AE uses your RAM as a ramdisk so it just fills the timeline into memory then goes to your cache drive then normal drive


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4 hours ago, kfdz277 said:

i dont think there's a single b450 motherboard out there that doesn't support bios flashback lol i didnt really get that bit of the video

most mobos dont support Bios flashback........

 

in fact its mostly MSI that is doing Bios flashback capable motherboards. 

 

 

bios flashback shouldnt be confused with flashing a bios. one requires a CPU, the other does not. 

2 hours ago, Urza said:

why have you guys haven't put a Ryzen 7 2700x?

due to clockspeeds, IPC among other things. 3rd gen is a whole lot better at the editing part. and rendering is close enough that it doesnt matter a whole lot. 

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4 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

due to clockspeeds, IPC among other things. 3rd gen is a whole lot better at the editing part. and rendering is close enough that it doesnt matter a whole lot. 

Are you speaking of timelime performance? If so, I totally understand.

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Just now, Urza said:

Are you speaking of timelime performance? If so, I totally understand.

timeline performance. and i believe it includes adding certain effects. 

 

cant say ive looked deeply into it, ive just read the charts detailing the time certain things take to do. 

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18 hours ago, GabenJr said:

Not sure about the 1660 or NVENC for editing; One of the reasons we didn't go with a 1660 was because it had so much extra headroom that we weren't utilizing, and the 1650 wasn't limited in testing. NVENC doesn't really come up in Adobe Premiere, and come to think of it I don't know if it comes up in any NLE... Useful for transcoding to H.264 or H.265 using Handbrake or something I suppose, but not really for editing or exporting.

DaVinci Resolve Studio has supported NVENC encoding since version 15.2 which was released on November 14th, 2018.

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5 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Yeah I have used over 64Gbs of RAM in AE before. But that's mainly because AE uses your RAM as a ramdisk so it just fills the timeline into memory then goes to your cache drive then normal drive

Yeah I did a 10 minute animated video for my channel back in April on 32GB in 4K with combined with Character Animator and it was just a dog hopping between programs doing changes to animate the movements, then previewing it to see how it looked together. I had a sizeable AE cache of 200GB, but handling all the nested sublayers beneath it in (which were sitting in the cache already), just caused the 1/4th, 1/8th previews to go so slow and even with 32GB it would constantly dump to the cache after 10 seconds or so of RAM Previewing, and then when the timeline preview got to portions that I had already rendered it would crawl at 80% pulling the layers from the 500mb/s SSD cache back to the RAM. Basically I said never again to doing that on 32GB b/c it was just not enough to hold all that data simultaneously and allow for compilation. Granted this is a special case but I can't really see anyone having a good time in AE in a 4K timeline on 16GB with nested layers. 1080p? for sure. 2K, yeah for projects not dealing with more of Creative Suite, but Jeebus...

 

It's worth it to just go up to 32GB if you're going to use AE imo. Find somewhere in that recommended parts list to scrape the $20-30 together to upgrade to a 2x16GB kit and downgrade elsewhere. I'm not sure what I'm missing but it doesn't look like its double the price (at least in freedom units). The RAM listed for this build is $109 on newegg, but there are at least 10 2x16 3200mhz kits on newegg from $115-130.

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25 minutes ago, altertrail said:

How come you used the 6-core 3600 instead of the 8-Core 2700x?

better general performance due to single threaded performance at nearly no cost of multithreaded performance. 

 

the 3600 will deliver a better overall experience. 

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9 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

better general performance due to single threaded performance at nearly no cost of multithreaded performance. 

 

the 3600 will deliver a better overall experience. 

isnt the 2700x higher on the premiere pro benchmarks that they showed on puget systems? cause were talking about an editing build

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1 hour ago, altertrail said:

isnt the 2700x higher on the premiere pro benchmarks that they showed on puget systems? cause were talking about an editing build

Rendering, yes. Other tasks which affect the user experience, no. 

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You know what's not for video editors on a budget? The $4000 Razer Blade Studio with a full-fat RTX 5000 (basically an RTX 2080 with twice the VRAM) under the hood:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Blade-Studio-Laptop-Thunderbolt/dp/B07YQP65K7/

https://www.razer.com/gaming-laptops/razer-blade/shop

 

 

Can you guys please give it full review?

 

 

P.S. you can also configure a standard Razer Blade 15 with the RTX 2080 MAX-Q and a 244hz display for $1000 less.

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Great video, perfect timing, I had just started shopping for upgrades to my PC. I don't do games, video editing is not great on my old AMD rig. I had considered the 2700 but after watching this video and looking at other benchmarks the extra $25 for the 3600 makes sense, plus I get the latest series from AMD.

 

The costs are in the range I was looking more or less. I had a more expensive motherboard in mind and the cheaper processor, so it would be a wash if I built it this way.  I'm not building from scratch, most of my components exceed the needs of this build. (Case, power supply, cpu cooler, storage.) It's more of a heart transplant for an old dog.

 

Now, I'm waiting for the budget gaming PC video to see if I'm on the right track for my son's upgrades.

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I actually plan on making this buying this build this coming cyber Monday 2019. Is there a good build guide to follow along that will help with this build since it's my first pc.

 

Also my budget was 1500 with peripherals so I went with the 2060 super and either an AMD 2700x or 2800x depending on deals. Should any parts like power supply change?

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Would the Fractal Design Focus Mini G - Mini Tower Computer Case work on this configuration as well? Can anybody tell me? I’m trying to reduce the size of this desktop if possible.

And can this computer also act as a Plex server? 

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I just found this video, but punching this into PCPartPicker dot com, it was out of stock in both Newegg and Amazon (it's there used, but I don't buy used) and checking a similar mb gives an error (though it might not be published yet) I'm also not seeing a cooler in this list as well, and reading a little of the thread suggests the 1660 super as well

What's the verdict on the rig as a whole--for someone wanting to build his own PC for the first time

Ah, finally the quieter and non-RGB the PC is, the better

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On 10/29/2019 at 1:51 PM, Vejnemojnen said:

650w for a 65w tdp cpu and 75w tdp gpu? Whut?

 

Why not opting for 2x16GB RAM-s?

Would not a 1TB SSD like Corsair MP510 or Patriot VPN100 would have been a better solution? 

 

And where is the CPU cooler ? ? 

ryzen cpus come with a cooler...

welcome to the benefits of ryzen


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AMD blackout rig

 

cpu: ryzen 5 3600 @4.4ghz @1.35v

gpu: rx580 @1.45ghz mem=2100mhz

ram: vengeance lpx c15 @3800mhz

mobo: Asus b450f

psu: cooler master mwe 650w

case: masterbox mbx520

fans:Noctua industrial 3000rpm x6

 

 

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On 10/29/2019 at 3:00 PM, Vejnemojnen said:

Stock cooler? For 99celsius temps and fan with the sound of a 4-engine jet passanger, it's fine. Otherwise, piece of junk, which should not be included with the cpu, as it's incapable for the task.  : ) Any 20-25USD cooler will vastly outperform that stealth.

okay nvm clearly you are just trying to start a bunch of shit.

the stealth cooler is actually a very capable cooler, even works on the 3900x without overclock, clearly you have something against ryzen, or have been mis-informed


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AMD blackout rig

 

cpu: ryzen 5 3600 @4.4ghz @1.35v

gpu: rx580 @1.45ghz mem=2100mhz

ram: vengeance lpx c15 @3800mhz

mobo: Asus b450f

psu: cooler master mwe 650w

case: masterbox mbx520

fans:Noctua industrial 3000rpm x6

 

 

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On 10/29/2019 at 11:58 AM, GabenJr said:

Want to get into content creation? Unless you’re being ironically retro, you’re working in 4K. We’ll show you what kind of rig you need to get started!

Hi, i'm not sure if this thread is dead but here i am to dig it up.

so my situation is: i currently edit/mograph on the system scored attached, and need to replace my mobo, so maybe upgrade? it runs pretty well now but faster is always better.
i7-8700K at 5.0GHz
32GB 3200MHz
evga 1080 SC2

M.2 for OS and programs / M.2 for cache / SSD for project files / fat drive for storage

 

i'm in a situation where i need to replace my mobo but, if i'm going to do that, maybe i should take this time to go AMD? Any recommendations (not low budget since its just mobo and cpu, mid to high end please!)
i'm after super fast AE speeds and faster render times than i'm getting now.

 

Thanks everyone and congrats on 10 million Linus! ❤️

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