GPU for new build RX 5700 xt or RTX 2070 super

[hollyh88]

On 11/28/2019 at 9:53 AM, BTGbullseye said:

If they already know about it, they may also know of a settings change or update removal that will alleviate the problem. Then again, it could be a driver issue with the motherboard drivers, or something not playing well in the drivers, so many possible issues.

the amd guy said that there was no issue.  so now i am clueless cause clearly there is. i just think that perhaps the 2600x isnt good enough to keep up with a 2070 super then. so that definatly needs to be upgraded. 

[Midnitewolf]

On 11/28/2019 at 9:45 AM, Shadowjack said:

 In the past month i have made some adjustments. The GPU is the most important part in terms of relevancy. I have already purchase the Gigabyte Aorus RTX 2070 super as it is, in my opinion the best card at the $600 price point (paid 585). After further review i agree PCIe 4 is not really relevant at this time. 

 

 I know the tech is ever changing at an accelerated pace. the fact remains this will be only my 4th build since 2002. Over that span i have only made 2 upgrades. A gpu on my 2008 build and added an SSD to my current 2014 build. This has schedule has worked for me. Mostly because i pretty much unplug from the tech until i find a need. This time around may be different. I may look to update GPU and maybe CPU in 3 years. Will be watching prices on mobo, cpu and ram this weekend. Ive got everything else. 

 

Thanks for the input, have a great Thanksgiving. 
 

Yeah it is hard to say and how long a PC will last you honestly depends on your usage and how high end you build in the first place.  I have no doubts if I would have spent about $300-$500 more on my last build, I could have easily gotten around year or two out of it than I did but at the time it just wasn't in the budget.   However finances have changed this time around and with the build I am currently putting together, I am going fairly high end with a max budget of about $1800 - $2400 depending on what part end up making the best sense.  Hopefully this also means I can finally break that 2-3 year replacement cycle I have going on.  Either way it will be interesting to find out if buying cheap and upgrading often is better or worse than going big for maximum longevity.

[BTGbullseye]

2 hours ago, hollyh88 said:

the amd guy said that there was no issue.  so now i am clueless cause clearly there is. i just think that perhaps the 2600x isnt good enough to keep up with a 2070 super then. so that definatly needs to be upgraded. 

Well, sounds like you might've just lost the silicon lottery then with that specific chip. I know for a fact that a 3600 will not have any issues with that GPU.

[hollyh88]

4 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

Well, sounds like you might've just lost the silicon lottery then with that specific chip. I know for a fact that a 3600 will not have any issues with that GPU.

yeah if it doesnt have issue with a 5700xt it shouldnt with a 2070 super even though it has a bit more power. 

But i think ill wait till next gen comes or the 3700x gets a good discount. i rather have a bit of an upgrade. instead of going to another 6 core  

[BTGbullseye]

1 hour ago, hollyh88 said:

yeah if it doesnt have issue with a 5700xt it shouldnt with a 2070 super even though it has a bit more power. 

But i think ill wait till next gen comes or the 3700x gets a good discount. i rather have a bit of an upgrade. instead of going to another 6 core  

Due to the new architecture, the 3600 is actually comparable to an 8 core from the Zen+ line, but with extra clock speed on top. Last I checked it was averaging around 10% better performance than the 2700x in all workloads, despite 2 fewer cores.

[hollyh88]

48 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

Due to the new architecture, the 3600 is actually comparable to an 8 core from the Zen+ line, but with extra clock speed on top. Last I checked it was averaging around 10% better performance than the 2700x in all workloads, despite 2 fewer cores.

true but going from a 6 core to another 6 core is a bit of a side grade in my eyes. It's better to go with 8 cores. since that would be an actual hardware imrpovement too.

[Shadowjack]

On 12/5/2019 at 10:30 AM, Midnitewolf said:

Yeah it is hard to say and how long a PC will last you honestly depends on your usage and how high end you build in the first place.  I have no doubts if I would have spent about $300-$500 more on my last build, I could have easily gotten around year or two out of it than I did but at the time it just wasn't in the budget.   However finances have changed this time around and with the build I am currently putting together, I am going fairly high end with a max budget of about $1800 - $2400 depending on what part end up making the best sense.  Hopefully this also means I can finally break that 2-3 year replacement cycle I have going on.  Either way it will be interesting to find out if buying cheap and upgrading often is better or worse than going big for maximum longevity.

We have taken similar paths. Mine is the first with current gen parts. This is first time i haven't scavenged from the previous build. 

My final tally is in, just waiting for ram to arrive next week. My goal was $2000.  

 

CASE Phanteks Enthoo Pro M SE                      98
MB Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master                      330
CPU Ryzen7 3700x                                           300
GPU Gigabyte Aorus RTX2070 super               590
PSU CORSAIR RMx Series RM850x                  130
SSD ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB NVME         200
SSD ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512GB NVME       65
RAM G.SKILL Trident Z Neo 32GB 3600 CL16  280
FAN Noctua NF-P14s x2                                       28

                                                       TOTAL       2021  add another 165 tax

 

 

[Midnitewolf]

3 minutes ago, Shadowjack said:

We have taken similar paths. Mine is the first with current gen parts. This is first time i haven't scavenged from the previous build. 

My final tally is in, just waiting for ram to arrive next week. My goal was $2000.  

 

CASE Phanteks Enthoo Pro M SE                      98
MB Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master                      330
CPU Ryzen7 3700x                                           300
GPU Gigabyte Aorus RTX2070 super               590
PSU CORSAIR RMx Series RM850x                  130
SSD ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB NVME         200
SSD ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512GB NVME       65
RAM G.SKILL Trident Z Neo 32GB 3600 CL16  280
FAN Noctua NF-P14s x2                                       28

                                                       TOTAL       2021  add another 165 tax

 

Yeah my set up is going to be pretty similar

 

Case: Li Lian Lancool II - $96

MB:  Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro WiFi - $220

CPU:  Ryzen 3800x - $330

GPU:  Undecided - 

PSU: Corsair RM850x - $120

SSD: HP EX950 2TB NVME - $210

RAM:  G.Skill Ripjaw 32gb 3600 CL 16 - $135 

Cooling: Arctic Freezer 34 Esport Duo - $43 (May switch out to a Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240 - $92)

Cooling 2: 3 X Li Lian Bora ARGB 120mm fans: $64

 

Total without Video Card: $1218.00 including tax and shipping.

 

This leaves me about $1000.00 left over for a video card if I want to keep within a $2200 budget.  I still can't decide between a 5700XT, 2070 Super or going all out and getting a lower end 2080 Ti.  Heck it might even be worth it to slot in my current Vega 56 and use that until the next gen cards come out in 2020.  I still have at least a week to decide since the Li Lian Lancool II case is on pre-order.  It is supposed to ship on Dec. 10th but it wouldn't surprise me if the pre-orders don't exceed the initial stock considering the reviews this case got.  If I am unlucky, I might have an extended wait on my hands.