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[psucultists] PSU Tier List

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5 minutes ago, Tim Serious said:

Antec "neo eco" gold is discontinued now, not even listed in thier website .... They replaced it with "Neo Eco Zen" which is also gold rated.

Hmm. Then forget about it, it might be as well not moved to Focus GX then. Ask the Antec support for confirmation that HCG Pro Gold are GX (and possibly from what date it is) and ask retailer what are manufacturing date of the units they sell.


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14 minutes ago, Juular said:

Ask the Antec support for confirmation that HCG Pro Gold are GX (and possibly from what date it is) and ask retailer what are manufacturing date of the units they sell.

I'm currently busy with this around Antec and some others... can't exactly say when i have answers


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SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

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PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

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13 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

I'm currently busy with this around Antec and some others... can't exactly say when i have answers

If you can, also ask them about thier new psu line "Neo Eco Zen" and whether they have discontinued thier "Neo Eco Gold" line or not.

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42 minutes ago, Tim Serious said:

If you can, also ask them about thier new psu line "Neo Eco Zen" and whether they have discontinued thier "Neo Eco Gold" line or not.

It's Andyson, that doesn't put much hopes in it, maybe tier B at most.

Edit: yeah, they don't claim OTP, it's no higher than tier B regardless of platform.


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A few months ago, everyone was hating on the Focus PSUs from Seasonic. Now the Focus GX is listed as Tier A. Does that mean it's a new revision that's actually good, or what?

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55 minutes ago, maxkool said:

A few months ago, everyone was hating on the Focus PSUs from Seasonic. Now the Focus GX is listed as Tier A. Does that mean it's a new revision that's actually good, or what?

From the looks of it, yes. There are no GPU shutdown issues reported for Focus GX and our methodology were reconsidered to limit performance considerations to 110% overload, not 125% where Focus showed excess ripple in that one review. Focus FX and derived units are still detiered tiered to A- because there are slight possibility that users will receive V1 version of it which has GPU shutdown issues, but Focus GX are fine.


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18 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

I'm currently busy with this around Antec and some others... can't exactly say when i have answers

Hello

May i ask why the CX was not moved down to the category of overload ripple?

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7 minutes ago, SexualHealing said:

Hello

May i ask why the CX was not moved down to the category of overload ripple?

For the same reasons why Focus were moved up to tier A-

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all issues are found inside light overload (110%) or lower.


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11 minutes ago, SexualHealing said:

May i ask why the CX was not moved down to the category of overload ripple?

if we were to detier CX for that, we would have to tier down about the whole PSU market... hence we chose to limit ourself to data up to 110% overload, except with catastrofic faiurures, which didn't occur at the live testing, nor has Ronaldo himself had anything as I spoke with him about it


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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

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On 3/4/2020 at 9:26 PM, LukeSavenije said:

again, if cm were to replace people's old versions with RMA, this wouldn't really be a problem

They RMA'd my friends MWE Gold fully-modular in 1 day, and he waited few days to import new one into the country and he sold it and got bequiet! Pure Power 11, but Cooler Master do got great RMA for stuff like PSU's, they'll probably replace it, before MWE Gold he had EVGA G3 which also gave him problems

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Interesting fact, although I fully agree with placing vero l2 in tier c because it's a totally budget when it comes to the quality of electronics, in my country (Poland) this psu is recommended by our tech youtubers for computers for often even 4-5k zlotys (1000-1300 $) ?, totally absurd but spc has strong marketing here, for example one of the biggest pc shop in Poland - sorted by popularity.
https://www.morele.net/komputery/podzespoly-komputerowe/zasilacze-61/,,,,,,,sd,1,,,,/1/

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1 minute ago, Kaygooo said:

Interesting fact, although I fully agree with placing vero l2 in tier c because it's a totally budget when it comes to the quality of electronics, in my country (Poland) this psu is recommended by our tech youtubers for computers for often even 4-5k zlotys (1000-1300 $) ?, totally absurd but spc has strong marketing here.

Just as Seasonic S12II or most of EVGA units ... Most people have no idea what they're saying, they just think that if brand-name are known for some good PSUs then you can recommend any of their PSUs equally.


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5 minutes ago, Juular said:

Just as Seasonic S12II or most of EVGA units ... Most people have no idea what they're saying, they just think that if brand-name are known for some good PSUs then you can recommend any of their PSUs equally.

Yea, true, i remember when people recommended s12ii very much, when even then there were much better units on market for similiar money. The same about spc in my region, even though we have practically all models of most manufacturers available in stores.

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Is the Sharkoon SilentStorm Cool Zero a relabled one of any version on the tier list? Does anyone know where it would rank?

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21 minutes ago, t0m.- said:

Is the Sharkoon SilentStorm Cool Zero a relabled one of any version on the tier list? Does anyone know where it would rank?

it actually looks quite decent... i expect it to be around tier b+ - tier a, but i'm not completely done with research

Sharkoon Silentstorm Cool Zero


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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

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PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

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15 minutes ago, t0m.- said:

Is the Sharkoon SilentStorm Cool Zero a relabled one of any version on the tier list? Does anyone know where it would rank?

It looks like almost exact match on Sirfa platfom used in TT Grand RGB Sync, FDB fan, Rubycon caps, which puts it in tier A temporary position until proper reviews.


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2 hours ago, Somini87 said:

Im curious where these PSU's fall on the tier list, can somebody help?

https://silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=766&area=en

https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=813&area=en

 

and which one should I get?

From a quick look :

First link: Silverstone Essential Gold - tier A

Second link: Silverstone Strider Gold - tier B+ nope, this one = Astro GD, so tier C nope again, It's Silverstone Strider Gold S - tier B+

 

Why these two anyway ? Anything else available ?


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31 minutes ago, Juular said:

From a quick look :

Silverstone Essential Gold - tier A

Silverstone Strider Gold - tier B+ nope, this one = Astro GD, so tier C

 

Why these two anyway ? Anything else available ?

These two fit my budget well. 

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BeQuiet Straight Power 11 Gold

Deepcool DQ-M

Enermax Revolution D.F

(650 or 750W)

Best/quietest of these three in A+ tier? SP 11 is the most expensive of these by a small bit...not sure if worth it.

The DF has that interesting reverse spin but worried it might fail faster because of it...also that fan looks somehow cheap plastic :D

Can't find Revolution DF, SP11 on cybenetics :(

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4 minutes ago, tiktilkq said:

BeQuiet Straight Power 11 Gold

Deepcool DQ-M

Enermax Revolution D.F

(650 or 750W)

Best/quietest of these three in A+ tier? SP 11 is the most expensive of these by a small bit...not sure if worth it.

The DF has that interesting reverse spin but worried it might fail faster because of it...also that fan looks somehow cheap plastic :D

Can't find Revolution DF, SP11 on cybenetics :(

SP11 are E11 on Cyben.

Reverse spin function of Enermax are manual AFAIK, i.e it doesn't trigger by itself.

Deepcool DQ-M, Enermax Revolution D.F and Bitfenix Whisper M are the same platform, so differences are essentially down to warranty, support and aesthetics.

If bq! E11 are more expensive then the choice out of other two probably depends on where are you from, if smth close to China then Deepcool, otherwise Enermax (so it would be easier to ship a unit for RMA if needed).


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bit off-topic but just wanted to share some thoughts, I finally bought CX550 2017 (arrives in two days) due high positive reviews in linus tech forum and some other websites plus it's ranked Tier B+ meaning it's supposedly superior to some tier C or B gold units like EVGA 600 GD 2019, anyway i hope i don't regret the purchase coz omg cx550 was very cheap, it makes me feel kinda unconfortable that i might get some low quality garbage but i trust linus tech tier list more than all those guys in tom's hard, techpower or reddit saying: "dont go cheap on psu, u get what you paid for, if it blows dont cry, $100+ and gold or nothing"  ?

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14 minutes ago, TacosBurritos said:

bit off-topic but just wanted to share some thoughts, I finally bought CX550 2017 (arrives in two days) due high positive reviews in linus tech forum and some other websites plus it's ranked Tier B+ meaning it's supposedly superior to some tier C or B gold units like EVGA 600 GD 2019, anyway i hope i don't regret the purchase coz omg cx550 was very cheap, it makes me feel kinda unconfortable that i might get some low quality garbage but i trust linus tech tier list more than all those guys in tom's hard, techpower or reddit saying: "dont go cheap on psu, u get what you paid for, if it blows dont cry, $100+ and gold or nothing"  ?

No worries, be confident in your purchase. It's a good quality unit that's priced really well. :)


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Looking to build an SFF PC, strictly for gaming. From what I've seen Corsair SF450 Platinum should suffice for Ryzen 5 3600 + GPU as high as RTX 2070, and I'm aiming for a more budget GPU anyway. Any thoughts on this?

 

I would go for SF600 Platinum, just to future-proof the build, but I can't find it in stock anywhere, at least not for it's regular retail price.

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14 minutes ago, Nlelith said:

Looking to build an SFF PC, strictly for gaming. From what I've seen Corsair SF450 Platinum should suffice for Ryzen 5 3600 + GPU as high as RTX 2070, and I'm aiming for a more budget GPU anyway. Any thoughts on this?

 

I would go for SF600 Platinum, just to future-proof the build, but I can't find it in stock anywhere, at least not for it's regular retail price.

Yes, it would be enough.

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