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7 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

Whether it's actually relevant enough to highlight it now that may be a different story.

It is relevant when it comes to 1000W+ PSUs when the current difference is 100A+ in my book. But again, we don't highlight anything, we point out the difference. Highlighting would be placing multi-rail units in the tier above or making them a different color. By placing multi-rail units in the subcategory inside a tier with single-rail units of otherwise comparable quality and performance we just give an end user more information. I keep repeating myself and you don't listed, please cease this argument, it wouldn't change as this is solution we came with after having multi-rail units in the separate tiers and highlighted with another color, and more importantly, there are no alternatives other than not telling users this information at all which isn't gonna happen because it's an important bit of information.


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1 minute ago, Ankerson said:

There is a small difference when talking about high quality PSUs.

indeed there is, so who not point out stuff that can be relevant. 

2 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

No whether it's actually relevant in MOST cases is the real issue.

i could pick this appart by stating that most protections arent needed in "most cases". 

 

but lets be honest here, once you get to tier B, there are relativly minor things worth noting. hence you see noise being one of the things mentioned only in tier A with the use of colors. or standout units with the Gold color. 

2 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

Whether it's actually relevant enough to highlight it now that may be a different story.

and the writers of the list have found enough reason to highlight it. or at least point out which unit have it at high tier. 

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21 minutes ago, Juular said:

It is relevant when it comes to 1000W+ PSUs when the current difference is 100A+ in my book. But again, we don't highlight anything, we point out the difference. Highlighting would be placing multi-rail units in the tier above or making them a different color. By placing multi-rail units in the subcategory inside a tier with single-rail units of otherwise comparable quality and performance we just give an end user more information. I keep repeating myself and you don't listed, please cease this argument, it wouldn't change as this is solution we came with after having multi-rail units in the separate tiers and highlighted with another color.

 

I really don't care one way or the other because I have no skin in the game personally and I do my own research.

 

The Tier List is MUCH better than it was so I tend to think just leave it alone the way it is now.

 

I was just pointing out the obvious.

 

Anything is better than the nightmare that was the last Tier List... At least this one is usable and pretty accurate.

 

So I am happy with it the way it is and use it and the spreadsheets...

 

 


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29 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

i could pick this appart by stating that most protections arent needed in "most cases". 

 

but lets be honest here, once you get to tier B, there are relativly minor things worth noting. hence you see noise being one of the things mentioned only in tier A with the use of colors. or standout units with the Gold color. 

 

Absolutely, once you hit Tier B and below, well you know... The quality does start to go down after Tier A.  Things start to get rough in Tier C and below.

 

I tend to think quality is the most important factor.

 

 


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18 hours ago, Juular said:

I can't find much info either except that based on external shots it looks like yet another Andyson M5 or derivative, fairly mediocre DC-DC design but that doesn't tell anything about it's actual performance. I'll add it in tier C low priority.

I found some information. I don't know how useful it is, but I wanted to write. The picture of the psu I use is attached. Under the model name, vector g750 is written on the product. Do you think it might have something to do with this model? Thanks.

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2 hours ago, gokhyildiz said:

I found some information. I don't know how useful it is, but I wanted to write. The picture of the psu I use is attached. Under the model name, vector g750 is written on the product. Do you think it might have something to do with this model? Thanks.

 

Hmm, HP in the model name makes me think it's a High Power unit, with HPW potentially being a new platform we don't know about.

Wouldn't be the first time Xigmatek uses High Power (Centauro and XFP were also High Power).

Honestly, without an internal shot, we can't determine if it's a new platform, a modified platform, or a rebrand of another unit.

Uses a 120mm double ball-bearing fan, doesn't claim OTP (disqualifies from Tier B), doesn't claim OCP (might still have it on minor rails, but still), and is DC/DC according to the specs on their page for the Shogun G, though the side sticker doesn't match the amps shown there so their marketing is a little sus, but that doesn't matter as much as the PSU build quality.

 

Honestly, just looking at the specs page, it's already a Tier C (or potentially lower) PSU.


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10 hours ago, Juular said:

Should we give you editing rights ?

Up to you.  I could just keep shouting out mistakes from my high horse.  ;)

 

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On 9/9/2020 at 8:07 AM, numbsoul said:

Hello guys, i meed help, is this included in one of those Corsair RM Gray series? Thanks

 

https://dynaquestpc.com/collections/components-power-supply-700-900-watts/products/corsair-rm850-80-gold-full-modular-power-supply

rm yellow= tier c, rm gray= tier A


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On 9/8/2020 at 10:07 PM, numbsoul said:

Hello guys, i meed help, is this included in one of those Corsair RM Gray series? Thanks

 

https://dynaquestpc.com/collections/components-power-supply-700-900-watts/products/corsair-rm850-80-gold-full-modular-power-supply

That is a REALLY OLD PSU.  How on EARTH does that shop still have it in stock?!!?!?

 

EDIT:  They used the wrong picture.  Google the part number provided, CP-9020196-NA, it's actually the NEW RM that they're selling.

 

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1 minute ago, jonnyGURU said:

That is a REALLY OLD PSU.  How on EARTH does that shop still have it in stock?!!?!?

probably store who sells used stuff. ive ser

en that exact psu go around 40 euros on local market. i would not pay that much for that psu honestly. mayby 20 euros for low end or office pc


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1 hour ago, jonnyGURU said:

Up to you.  I could just keep shouting out mistakes from my high horse.  ;)

if you pm me or juular an email one of us can add the rights inside google docs

 

but of course, highhorsing is a valid option if you prefer


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hey guys, I'm in need of some help again. 

so i bought this psu (Cooler Master MWE 700 White-v2, 700W 80 Plus ATX) to pair with a (MSI RADEON RX 570 ARMOR 8G OC) and Im getting crashes whenever i open something GPU hungry. So my question is, is that a bad psu or do i need to twik the settings on my GPU so it only consumes what i have? 

 

Also, i was looking at this one this morning

(NZXT C650 - NP-C650M-UK - 650 Watt PSU - 80+ Gold)  and if you guys tell me that is going to work i'll send CM back and get the NZXT instead. 

really appreciate any help please.

 

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@Marcelindd2Well, NZXT one is going to be miles better, especially if they have similar price but i don't see why RX570 wouldn't work with CM MWE V2 White. There's always a possibility that the PSU (or the GPU) is faulty but i'm more inclined to driver \ OC instability. Can you test this machine with the different PSU ?


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@Juular i did try it with CWT 500W ATX PSU, but no avail.

Also uninstalled all driver and tried fresh win10....still nothing.  

I ran occt to check a few things and it crashes every time it hits around 120/130w. So i really 

dnt know if its the GPU or PSU. no overclocking or third party software either.

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1 minute ago, Marcelindd2 said:

i did try it with CWT 500W ATX PSU, but no avail.

I.e it still crashes ? Then CM MWE V2 is probably not to blame.


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1 minute ago, Marcelindd2 said:

sorry for all the info there. if the CM is not the problem could u look at these screen shots plz. 

the second one was just before a crash.

Nothing out of ordinary. Did you buy this GPU new or used ? Also, please hide screenshots in the spoiler.


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1 minute ago, Juular said:

Nothing out of ordinary. Did you buy this GPU new or used ? Also, please hide screenshots in the spoiler.

sorry I dont know how to do that yet.

I got it on Amazon warehouse sale. 

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21 hours ago, Elisis said:

The reason for Multi Rail, especially with 1000W+ units is that the resistance for the PSU to detect a short is ridiculously low. This is a problem because the voltage is relatively low. So a faulty connector + the resistance on the board can give you enough resistance for the PSU to not detect the fault - which can then cause a Fire. You can see that in the Overclockers "Why Single Rail is NOT better" link. Because that is essentially what happened. A short that was not low impedance enough, combined with a 1600W Single Rail PSU...

 

Another example of the Problems that can happen is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h3HqqPOS_M

As an FYI:  That "test" was sponsored by beQuiet and mysteriously nobody since has been able to reproduce that test.  Even when insanely long and really thin wire has been used, SCP always tripped.

 

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2 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

As an FYI:  That "test" was sponsored by beQuiet and mysteriously nobody since has been able to reproduce that test.  Even when insanely long and really thin wire has been used, SCP always tripped.

 

 

I remember you talking about that back before when everything was going sideways about the tier list and the alarmists were all over the place banging their gongs...

 

That was interesting because that video was behind most of the issues from the beginning.. 

 

The problem with taking things at face value instead of looking deeper.


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On 10/23/2019 at 10:15 AM, LukeSavenije said:

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does this line in the TIER A section include this PSU?

https://silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=731&bno=13&tb=12&area=en

 

im having trouble reading how its formatted


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1 hour ago, cTurtle98 said:

does this line in the TIER A section include this PSU?

https://silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=731&bno=13&tb=12&area=en

 

im having trouble reading how its formatted

Tier B, just gotta removed the wattage number from the model.

 

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