[EOL] PSU Tier List rev. 14.8

[Fasauceome]

5 hours ago, huangorino said:

Came to here because looking to get a new psu.

No sure why it under "TIER E - DANGEROUS" XDD

but I got myself Corsair VS650 back then in 2014 and it only started to occur problem (power on problem) last month after I changed RTX 2060

 

My system:

i7 4790, 16GB DDR3,

from GTX 650 > 950 > 1060 > 2060

PC powered on at least 6 hours per day now, back then 24/7 in my 3 years of college year.

 

Thanks "TIER E" psu for serving me for more than 6 years. XD

Tier list isn't based on how long a PSU will last. 6 years means nothing.

[Lucolate]

Is there an easy way to tell apart the old corcsair cx from the better 2017 version?

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Lucolate said:

Is there an easy way to tell apart the old corcsair cx from the better 2017 version?

the old cx had a black label with green letters

 

the new one has a gray label with black letters

[Sapphiree]

I see that the list is becoming more and more misleading with each new update. Now you say that psu's from tier A take for example Asus Thor 1200W is not suitable for systems >650W even if it has 1200W declared wattage *facepalm*.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Kaygooo said:

I see that the list is becoming more and more misleading with each new update. Now you say that psu's from tier A take for example Asus Thor 1200W is not suitable for systems >650W even if it has 1200W declared wattage *facepalm*.

can you read the word "recommended"? i never said required here

[Juular]

3 minutes ago, Kaygooo said:

I see that the list is becoming more and more misleading with each new update. Now you say that psu's from tier A take for example Asus Thor 1200W is not suitable for systems >650W even if it has 1200W declared wattage *facepalm*.

It's recommended, not required. And if you ask me, if you built 1200W PC spending thousands of dollars on it already (that would be nothing short of top-tier TR\HEDT plus 2\3 high-end GPUs), spending some extra 50-70$ on digital multi-rail unit (which all happen to be Corsair) would be just the drop in the ocean. With 650W it's not that definite, but again, it's not a requirement.

[Fasauceome]

38 minutes ago, Kaygooo said:

I see that the list is becoming more and more misleading with each new update. Now you say that psu's from tier A take for example Asus Thor 1200W is not suitable for systems >650W even if it has 1200W declared wattage *facepalm*.

You can make a bad PSU in any wattage. Being 1200 watts doesn't guarantee it runs with the best of them, and still, tier A is a great tier. But again, the criteria for the tiers are clear, and it does not meet tier A+ criteria (again, unless you have some information regarding otherwise)

[Nlelith]

Poked around Russian websites, and found two A+ options that can be shipped to me for fairly reasonable price: Enermax Revolution D.F. and DeepCool GamerStorm DQ-M, both are available as 650W and 750W. I know @Juular recommended DeepCool DQ-M, but judging from reviews, these two are nearly identical. Which one should I go for?

[LukeSavenije]

5 minutes ago, Nlelith said:

these two are nearly identical

95% the same...

 

which of the two is the cheapest? get that one

[Nlelith]

Okay, any reason to get 750W, or 650W should be sufficient even at heavy load? I use my PC for rendering in Cinema 4D/After Effects, and plan to try Blender with GPU-supported engine as well. i7 6700K 4.6Ghz / RTX 2080 Ti.

[Juular]

27 minutes ago, Nlelith said:

Okay, any reason to get 750W, or 650W should be sufficient even at heavy load? I use my PC for rendering in Cinema 4D/After Effects, and plan to try Blender with GPU-supported engine as well. i7 6700K 4.6Ghz / RTX 2080 Ti.

Possibly somewhat less noise (if there would be any from the PSU in the first place), that's it. How much would these PSUs cost you to ship from Russia anyway ?

[Nlelith]

Well, I do leave my PC on throughout the night while rendering long scenes, so less noise is better. 750W it is. Thanks for your help, guys!

[WkdPaul]

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[MEC-777]

1 hour ago, Nlelith said:

Okay, any reason to get 750W, or 650W should be sufficient even at heavy load? I use my PC for rendering in Cinema 4D/After Effects, and plan to try Blender with GPU-supported engine as well. i7 6700K 4.6Ghz / RTX 2080 Ti.

I have the DQ-M 650 and it's very quiet, practically silent.

And btw, the 750w units are likely to run louder as they tend to have more aggressive fan curves.

[Juular]

56 minutes ago, MEC-777 said:

And btw, the 750w units are likely to run louder as they tend to have more aggressive fan curves.

Hmmm

[Troika]

15 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

on the legacy-legacy list it is located at Tier A. dont know how that would translate to today. 

 

do you need 1600w? because you can go for higher end powersupplies that are a little less wattage around the same price. 

Well, considering that running both of my HD 4870x2s are just shy of maxing out my 1000w unit when running them stock with my overclocked Phenom II X6 1090T, I need a bigger unit or two units to be able to power my torture box. Since I want everything to easily fit in my Corsair Air 540, I'd like to keep it to a single unit. Eventually, I want to upgrade my torture box to either X58 or X79 so I can keep enough pcie lanes to get the most bandwidth for quad-SLI and Quadfire.

13 hours ago, Juular said:

Full-bridge, complete protections set but can't find any info of whether it supports c6\c7 power states, probably not since it were released in 2013 but it may still be able to cope with c6\c7 crossloads, so if it does it would've been at tier A. Although, if you have any other options from tier A\A+ with maybe 1200W (enough for two RTX2080TI's with Threadripper) i'd recommend to pick them instead.

Ideally, I'd want to get a EVGA Supernova P2/T2 1600w or Corsair AXi 1600w but those cost well over double the Lepa G-series 1600w and I don't plan on using the rig for more than 10 hours a week, if that. I just want a budget friendly option to be able to power some old flagships I want to see what I can do. If I'm gonna collect working gpus, I might as well see how far I can push them under the best non-specialized cooling (i.e. Dice, LN2, Phase change).

[Juular]

6 hours ago, Troika said:

I'd want to get a EVGA Supernova P2/T2 1600w or Corsair AXi 1600w but those cost well over double the Lepa G-series 1600w

It never worth saving on the PSU if you're unsure about it's quality, while 170$ for 1.6kW unit sounds good, as already said it's very old one and i'd recommend 1.3kW Seasonic PRIME Gold over it any day (220$), should be enough for two 450W GPUs and some 400W change for the CPU and other components, and even then there's about 30% headroom over rated power so it'll certainly handle smth even more powerful (as almost all other PSUs in tier A and up).

[Regnier]

I'm deciding between a Corsair RM750x (2018) or a Seasonic Focus Px 750. (The Corsair its 10 bucks cheaper)

This is my setup, brand new: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tLsLFG
With my old EVGA 1000 G (120 G1 1000 VR) it worked fine, but I bought a be quiet! Straight Power 11 and the coil whine.. Pc turned off was loud, turned on was louder and playing games was unbearable. I already returned it.
I used the tier list and read trough several comments, those 2 are the only ones I'm interested in that are available for me. (Not sure about giving be quiet! a second chance...) and yes, I want it to be 750 w.

Thanks in advance!
 

[Juular]

4 minutes ago, Regnier said:

I'm deciding between a Corsair RM750x (2018) or a Seasonic Focus Px 750. (The Corsair its 10 bucks cheaper)

Corsair then. But you don't need 750W for this, 550\650W would be enough for the most high-end build if it's solely for gaming purposes.

[Regnier]

Thanks for the quick reply.

I was going for a 650 w, but I noticed that my mobo has an extra 4 pin atx 12v connector, for extreme CPU wattage. I know I will NEVER need so much power for that but... I'm really picky in useless stuff like that. Probably will toss a coin between rm650x and rm750x.

[Constantin]

On 2/6/2020 at 8:49 AM, Kaygooo said:

not suitable for systems >650W 

Maybe you mean 

suitable for systems <650W

Edited February 7, 2020 by wkdpaul

[Troika]

4 hours ago, Juular said:

It never worth saving on the PSU if you're unsure about it's quality, while 170$ for 1.6kW unit sounds good, as already said it's very old one and i'd recommend 1.3kW Seasonic PRIME Gold over it any day (220$), should be enough for two 450W GPUs and some 400W change for the CPU and other components, and even then there's about 30% headroom over rated power so it'll certainly handle smth even more powerful (as almost all other PSUs in tier A and up).

That's a good point. I suppose it would have been a good buy 8 years ago but it probably isn't nowadays. I'll just save up for something solidly reliable like an AXi 1600 or Supernova P2/T2 1600. It'll cost more but at the end of the day, it's a more reliable unit that'll stand up to the abuse and heavy loads and probably outlive the bench I put it in.

[Juular]

2 minutes ago, Troika said:

That's a good point. I suppose it would have been a good buy 8 years ago but it probably isn't nowadays. I'll just save up for something solidly reliable like an AXi 1600 or Supernova P2/T2 1600. It'll cost more but at the end of the day, it's a more reliable unit that'll stand up to the abuse and heavy loads and probably outlive the bench I put it in.

Thing is unless you'll have more than two insanely power-hungry GPUs (300-400W) in your system, 1.3kW PSU would be more than enough. And the reliability or durability of PSU doesn't depend on it's wattage.

[LukeSavenije]

4 minutes ago, Troika said:

That's a good point. I suppose it would have been a good buy 8 years ago but it probably isn't nowadays. I'll just save up for something solidly reliable like an AXi 1600 or Supernova P2/T2 1600. It'll cost more but at the end of the day, it's a more reliable unit that'll stand up to the abuse and heavy loads and probably outlive the bench I put it in.

assuming you're in the us, you can currently get this one, which should perfectly do

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n3rG3C/antec-power-supply-hcp1300platinum