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Posted · Original PosterOP
9 minutes ago, Mezoxin said:

what are your experiences with renewed corsair psu's that are sold by corsair outlets and fullfiled by amazon 

i haven't really heard what kind of tests they go through first

 

maybe @jonnyGURU can enlighten me here


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22 minutes ago, Juular said:

Are Microcenter's branded PowerSpec PSUs in the check list ?

they're not

 

if you got any info on them, happy to hear


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10 minutes ago, seon123 said:

There are other three four models too, Bronze PS-BSM and PS-BF and Gold PS-GFM and PS-GSM.

@OrionFOTL might have some info on them.

According to him, Bronze ones are Sirfa High Power Element Smart. No idea on the Gold PS ones.


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1 hour ago, jonnyGURU said:

They just test them on a SunMoon and repackage them.

 

Is that good or bad ? ?


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6 minutes ago, Mezoxin said:

Is that good or bad ? ?

SunMoon is technical equipment that is used for testing if a PSU works, so I would guess the testing is certainly not lacking

@jonnyGURU I wonder if they scrap ones they find to be bad, some issue that is less easy than just replacing some modular cables , or do they attempt to repair?

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17 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

SunMoon is technical equipment that is used for testing if a PSU works, so I would guess the testing is certainly not lacking

@jonnyGURU I wonder if they scrap ones they find to be bad, some issue that is less easy than just replacing some modular cables , or do they attempt to repair?

some of them are 70% cheaper than the new ones also on amazon page they say 10 year warranty , should we reccomend them to people ?

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2 hours ago, LogicWeasel said:

SunMoon is technical equipment that is used for testing if a PSU works, so I would guess the testing is certainly not lacking

@jonnyGURU I wonder if they scrap ones they find to be bad, some issue that is less easy than just replacing some modular cables , or do they attempt to repair?

They scrap them for any reason.  From scratches to bad fans.  It just takes too many resources to repair a PSU... and then, you really should do Hi-Pot and burn in testing on it after you repair and retest it.  It just a major time suck.

1 hour ago, Mezoxin said:

some of them are 70% cheaper than the new ones also on amazon page they say 10 year warranty , should we reccomend them to people ?

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10 year warranty on refurb product is incorrect.

 

Have a link to that?

 

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3 minutes ago, jonnyGURU said:

They scrap them for any reason.  From scratches to bad fans.  It just takes too many resources to repair a PSU... and then, you really should do Hi-Pot and burn in testing on it after you repair and retest it.  It just a major time suck.

10 year warranty on refurb product is incorrect.

 

Have a link to that?

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RZ2FX5C/ref=dp_cr_wdg_tit_rfb?tag=linus21-20


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15 minutes ago, jonnyGURU said:

haha....  Nice.

 

would ordering it now make me able to make the 10 year warranty claim with corsair ?


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I don't think manufacturer are forced to fullfill warranty claims that are put in product description by retailer, that may be simple error, it doesn't work like that. Contact Corsair support and ask if they indeed offer full-length warranty on refurbished PSUs which is doubt.


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3 hours ago, Juular said:

I don't think manufacturer are forced to fullfill warranty claims that are put in product description by retailer, that may be simple error, it doesn't work like that. Contact Corsair support and ask if they indeed offer full-length warranty on refurbished PSUs which is doubt.

I live outside the states anyway was just joking , but joking aside you have strong consumer laws in the united states and amazon is the biggest  retailer in the world  if you file a complaint you can actually get something from it  because this is a clear case of consumer fraud if they falsely advertised a 10 year warranty 


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14 minutes ago, Mezoxin said:

I live outside the states anyway was just joking , but joking aside you have strong consumer laws in the united states and amazon is the biggest  retailer in the world  if you file a complaint you can actually get something from it  because this is a clear case of consumer fraud if they falsely advertised a 10 year warranty 

It's description made by retailer, there's no such information on manufacturer page except maybe somewhere in the depths of warranty policy, and even if it is it's almost certainly not full 10-year warranty. You can't expect PSU manufacturer to fullfill 10 years warranty on the refurbished product just because retailer said so, i pretty sure they've just copied product info from a new product without looking at it, Amazon style.


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Just now, Juular said:

It's description made by retailer, there's no such information on manufacturer page except maybe somewhere in the depths of warranty policy, and even if it is it's almost certainly not full 10-year warranty. You can't expect PSU manufacturer to fullfill 10 years warranty on the refurbished product just because retailer said so, i pretty sure they've just copied product info from a new product without looking at it, Amazon style.

i meant taking it up with amazon apecially that this item is fullfilled by amazon  , they cant falsely advertise features that isnt there 


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1 minute ago, Mezoxin said:

i meant taking it up with amazon apecially that this item is fullfilled by amazon  , they cant falsely advertise features that isnt there 

At best its retailer that would be responsible to replace product outside of 3-months warranty or return the money, this has nothing to do with manufacturer. And even then, Amazon wouldn't lift a finger without legal action, you'll spend more money on the lawyer here.


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2 minutes ago, Juular said:

At best its retailer that would be responsible to replace product outside of 3-months warranty or return the money, this has nothing to do with manufacturer. And even then, Amazon wouldn't lift a finger without legal action, you'll spend more money on the lawyer here.

yeah probably more than the 200$ youwill save on this psu ?


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I mean it's good choice if you have some really budget build with used high-power draw GPU that wouldn't lift up with PSU you can get for 50$ new. Otherwise, losing 10 years warranty for saving 30$ aren't a good choice.


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17 minutes ago, Juular said:

I mean it's good choice if you have some really budget build with used high-power draw GPU that wouldn't lift up with PSU you can get for 50$ new. Otherwise, losing 10 years warranty for saving 30$ aren't a good choice.

the new rmi 650 retails for 170$ on amazon and the renewed is for 50$ , you are saving 120$ not 30$ , and most faliures behaviors go by what is known in reliability engineering as the bathtub curve 

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so the 3 months amazon return policy should be suffiecient to show most manufactering defects ater that the probability of faliure goes down to a very low level comparitively and should reach the 10 year period without problems since it is already engineered to do so , 

If you buy it and stress test it in the first three months and it was problem free  then by statistical inference and probability theory you have a very good chance it would last you a very long time even longer than any other new psu in this 50$ category like the CX or VS that are engineered for a working period of 5 years 

 


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2 hours ago, Mezoxin said:

the new rmi 650 retails for 170$ on amazon and the renewed is for 50$ , you are saving 120$ not 30$

You're saving 30$ over equally good unit of comparable wattage, not over Corsair RMi of course, smth like Corsair RMx (when they were cheaper), Seasonic Focus GX, Bitfenix Formula Gold etc. Which will have full-length, 10 years warranty.


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2 minutes ago, Juular said:

You're saving 30$ over equally good unit of comparable wattage, not over Corsair RMi of course, smth like Corsair RMx (when they were cheaper), Seasonic Focus FX, Bitfenix Formula Gold etc. Which will have full-length, 10 years warranty.

i dont know what happened with the prices of PSU's in the US market but all the products you said with 650w sell for at least 110$ now the bitfenix formula gold is almost nonexistant at US online retailers and its last price was around 119$


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