can you flash a 2080 with a super bios?

[Jumballi]

Dumb idea I know, but you lose all chances you don't take. I'm just hoping someone has taken it before me.

[kirashi]

8 minutes ago, Jumballi said:

Dumb idea I know, but you lose all chances you don't take. I'm just hoping someone has taken it before me.

Even if it were possible, why would you want to? Flashing the BIOS doesn't magically increase the number of cores or texture units...

[Enderman]

Yeah hold on let me just add lambo gas to my prius to give it an extra 500Hp.

[Jumballi]

what's got me thinking is that they both use the tu-104 chip, meaning that unless there was a physical modification, they should be the same amount of the same cores.

[kirashi]

5 minutes ago, Jumballi said:

what's got me thinking is that they both use the tu-104 chip, meaning that unless there was a physical modification, they should be the same amount of the same cores.

Well then in that case, you should save even more money by flashing an RTX 2070 Super to a 2080 Super, then teach me how to flash my RTX 2060 into an RTX 2070 afterward.  Seriously though, not trying to rain on your parade, but just because they're based on the same base chipset does not mean the number of other components are physically present on the card.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/rtx-2080-super-vs-rtx-2080-vs-rtx-2070-super/

 

	RTX 2080 Ti	RTX 2080 Super	RTX 2080	RTX 2070 Super	RTX 2070	RTX 2060 Super	RTX 2060
GPU	TU102	TU104	TU104	TU104	TU106	TU106	TU106
CUDA cores	4,352	3,072	2,944	2,560	2,304	2,176	1,920
Tensor cores	544	384	368	320	288	272	240
RT Cores	68	48	46	40	36	34	30
Base clock	1,350MHz	1,650MHz	1,515MHz	1,605MHz	1,410MHz	1,470MHz	1,365Mhz
Boost clock	1,545MHz	1,815MHz	1,710Mhz	1,770MHz	1,620MHz	1,650MHz	1,680MHz
Memory	11GB GDDR6	8GB GDDR6	8GB GDDR6	8GB GDDR6	8GB GDDR6	8GB GDDR6	6GB GDDR6
Memory speed	14 Gbps	15.5Gbps	14Gbps	14Gbps	14Gbps	14Gbps	14Gbps
Bandwidth	616 GBps	496GBps	448GBps	448GBps	448GBps	448GBps	336GBps
TDP	250w	250w	215w	215w	175w	175w	160w
Price	$1,100	$699	$699	$500	$500	$400	$350

[xAcid9]

Unlike some AMD GPUs, Nvidia killed those "defective parts" with laser. 

 

Something like this.

Spoiler

so there is no chance to get those "defective parts" to work.

[TempestCatto]

18 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Yeah hold on let me just add lambo gas to my prius to give it an extra 500Hp.

As a matter of fact, if you add Mountain Dew you get at least 20% more Hp, 55% more bald eagles , and 100% more freedom . And if it's Baja Blast, you're basically running on Methane at that point .

[Enderman]

16 minutes ago, Jumballi said:

what's got me thinking is that they both use the tu-104 chip, meaning that unless there was a physical modification, they should be the same amount of the same cores.

You might watn to take a look at the specs of the card before making assumptions like that.

An i3 and i5 and i7 are technically all the same chip too fyi.

[BobVonBob]

18 minutes ago, Jumballi said:

unless there was a physical modification

See that's the thing, there is definitely a physical modification. Manufacturers learned after AMD's Phenom X3 debacle where you could do some patching and sometimes you got a full fourth core. The extra CUDA cores/tensor cores/RT cores are going to be cut off physically. Often this is a case of a small malfunction, maybe a bad CUDA core here, or a bad RT core there. Instead of just tossing the whole chip manufacturers will cut off the bad parts from the rest of the circuit and sell them as the lower tier SKUs.

[Jurrunio]

32 minutes ago, Jumballi said:

what's got me thinking is that they both use the tu-104 chip, meaning that unless there was a physical modification, they should be the same amount of the same cores.

This works with some AMD cards since their "lock" is just based on software, in other words as long as the cores aren't actually defective it will work. Nvidia tho make sure you can't with physical methods (big beam of laser), just like Intel.

 

What you could try is to flash a higher power limit RTX 2080 BIOS, since letting the card draw more power could lead to higher overclocking headroom, provided that you are hitting the power limit with the stock bios.

[BigRom]

2 hours ago, Jumballi said:

what's got me thinking is that they both use the tu-104 chip, meaning that unless there was a physical modification, they should be the same amount of the same cores.

If it were that simple why would anyone even buy the higher SKUs that Nvidia offers, just buy an RTX2060 and flash it to become a RTX2080Ti 

[Jon Jon]

I don't think there is a reason to tease the OP asking this question.

 

It is a legit question.

 

Maybe it is just because I remember a time where both NVIDIA and AMD routinely just used the same GPUs across their spread of cards and just cut them down via software.

 

I still remember when you could easily turn a Geforce 6800 into a 6800GT with a BIOS flash, as all of the hardware was identical, just shut off via firmware/bios.

 

Modders almost never bought a GT at the time because why spend the money when the only difference was 4 pixel pipelines that were still present on the vanilla card.

 

This was fairly common a decade ago, so you never know. People now are flashing RX 5700s into XTs and getting most of the performance back, so you never know. It's very generation specific.

Sadly, this is not the case with a 2080 and 2080S.