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Hi guys, I am looking forward to buy a new PSU as mine, the one I am currently using, got itself placed in D Tier from the .new PSU Tier List.

 

I am currently using a Xilence Performance C 500W, paired with gtx 1060 and fx 8300 3,3 Ghz.

 

Long story short, I stumbled upon Jonnyguru's forum/ review about this one particular PSU and had interest on it. Some of those who helped me in Reddit also encouraged me to visit the site and take my time there to decide on a new PSU.

 

It is a Riotoro Builder Edition 600W 80+ White, and overall Jonny gave the PSU a 8.2 out of 10 - and it is cheap here too in Germany. The review can be found here, although he reviewed the 500W version, not the 600W. There is no listing of this specific PSU model in the PSU Tier List, although some of the models of Riotoro is listed in Tier A and Tier B. But I know that we shouldnt judge a PSU by their brands because each model is different from each other.

 

So my questions are ;

 

1) Are his reviews trustworthy, as in good for a long run?

2) Will there be any difference between the 500W and 600W PSU, as JonnyGuru only reviews the 500W version?

3) 

 

As a side note, I will attach the product's official website here. Thanks in advance.

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Yes.  (to your title)

 

There is no other acceptable answer.

 

He is also a very active, well respected forum member here.  I cant answer question 2.  @LukeSavenije @jonnyGURU

Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Wifes Rig: ASRock B550m Riptide, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6700 XT, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker RAM, ARESGAME AGS 850w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750, 500gb Crucial m.2, DIYPC MA01-G case

My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted.  

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com)

Daughter 1 Rig: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) Patriot Viper CL14 2666mhz RAM, Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case. 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case

 

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One time in my forum history here I argued with @jonnyGURU - then I ate some humble pie and realized he is an absolute subject matter expect - and imho @LukeSavenije would be who I would personally go to with PSU questions (I do like once a month) if you are also looking to seek a second opinion.

Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Wifes Rig: ASRock B550m Riptide, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6700 XT, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker RAM, ARESGAME AGS 850w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750, 500gb Crucial m.2, DIYPC MA01-G case

My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted.  

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com)

Daughter 1 Rig: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) Patriot Viper CL14 2666mhz RAM, Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case. 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case

 

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JG's methodology is in my opinion incomplete, as they do ripple and load testing, but not things like protection testing (which i personally find very important)

 

even if Oklahomawolf does decent testing, he doesn't go to a level Aris from tomshardware goes for example

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Also @LukeSavenije: On Next Episode of "Roast My PSU" *insert collective frightened gasp from PSU manufacturers and rebranders*  

 

 

;)

Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Wifes Rig: ASRock B550m Riptide, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6700 XT, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker RAM, ARESGAME AGS 850w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750, 500gb Crucial m.2, DIYPC MA01-G case

My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted.  

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com)

Daughter 1 Rig: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) Patriot Viper CL14 2666mhz RAM, Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case. 

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case

 

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10 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Yes.  (to your title)

 

There is no other acceptable answer.

 

He is also a very active, well respected forum member here.  I cant answer question 2.  @LukeSavenije @jonnyGURU

I see, I am sorry if my question offended you @jonnyGURU but I have found next to no reviews about this particular PSU so I need to be extra careful. Actually glad to have you here so that my question about the PSU's reliability in the long run can be explained directly from you.

 

12 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

Generally pretty highly respected. His testing methodology is based with a primary focus on build quality and power output quality. All of his testing is documented and done consistently. If it measures as a good psu and he says it’s a good psu, it’s probably a good psu.

Doesnt hurt to include other reviews and resources but Johnnyguru is the go-to for most PSU stuff.

 

Thanks for the quick reply. Looks like this PSU is a sure buy then. Other PSU such as the MasterWatt even got a lower rating than the Riotoro Builder. 

 

9 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

JG's methodology is in my opinion incomplete, as they do ripple and load testing, but not things like protection testing (which i personally find very important)

 

even if Oklahomawolf does decent testing, he doesn't go to a level Aris from tomshardware goes for example

Thanks for stopping by. By protection testing, do you mean by power surges, or? Also, Do you by any chance do reviews yourself? I would like to expand my list on which PSU to buy for myself. 

 

7 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Also @LukeSavenije: On Next Episode of "Roast My PSU" *insert collective frightened gasp from PSU manufacturers and rebranders*  

 

 

;)

*Diablotek intensifies*

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1 hour ago, Sleeper47 said:

Thanks for stopping by. By protection testing, do you mean by power surges, or?

no, protections like overpower, overcurrent, undervoltage, overtemperature and so on

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1 hour ago, Sleeper47 said:

Hi guys, I am looking forward to buy a new PSU as mine, the one I am currently using, got itself placed in D Tier from the .new PSU Tier List.

 

I am currently using a Xilence Performance C 500W, paired with gtx 1060 and fx 8300 3,3 Ghz.

 

Long story short, I stumbled upon Jonnyguru's forum/ review about this one particular PSU and had interest on it. Some of those who helped me in Reddit also encouraged me to visit the site and take my time there to decide on a new PSU.

 

It is a Riotoro Builder Edition 600W 80+ White, and overall Jonny gave the PSU a 8.2 out of 10 - and it is cheap here too in Germany. The review can be found here, although he reviewed the 500W version, not the 600W. There is no listing of this specific PSU model in the PSU Tier List, although some of the models of Riotoro is listed in Tier A and Tier B. But I know that we shouldnt judge a PSU by their brands because each model is different from each other.

 

So my questions are ;

 

1) Are his reviews trustworthy, as in good for a long run?

2) Will there be any difference between the 500W and 600W PSU, as JonnyGuru only reviews the 500W version?

3) 

 

As a side note, I will attach the product's official website here. Thanks in advance.

 

Jonnyguru's reviews are more far more trustworthy than the tier list here.  The tier list is a bit of a mess in my view and there are some really good power supplies in tier D for VERY questionable reasons. This been a topic of discussion for some time now.  

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2 minutes ago, FALC0N said:

 

Jonnyguru's reviews are more far more trustworthy than the tier list here.  The tier list is a bit of a mess in my view and there are some really good power supplies in tier D for VERY questionable reasons. This been a topic of discussion for some time now.  

Thanks for stopping by. Seems like you are very familiar with their reviews indeed. Say, is the 8.2 out 10 score for the said Riotoro Builder 600W a good score, or what would you suggest? The score is from Jonny's site itself.

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5 minutes ago, Sleeper47 said:

Thanks for stopping by. Seems like you are very familiar with their reviews indeed. Say, is the 8.2 out 10 score for the said Riotoro Builder 600W a good score, or what would you suggest? The score is from Jonny's site itself.

Just ignore the last page on all of the reviews. Look at the numbers for how the PSU performs. 

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1 hour ago, Sleeper47 said:

Thanks for stopping by. Seems like you are very familiar with their reviews indeed. Say, is the 8.2 out 10 score for the said Riotoro Builder 600W a good score, or what would you suggest? The score is from Jonny's site itself.

 

I wasn't able to find much on the 600.  If it's the same platform as the 500, then it's better than what you have now.  However, it's very much a lower end unit.  

 

I'm not going to say you shouldn't buy it, but I'm not going to recommend it either.  Its serviceable, but I personally prefer something with a little more muscle. 

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On 10/19/2019 at 2:40 AM, Sleeper47 said:

got itself placed in D Tier

First of all, if you have the time and effort to create a thread and read reviews, DITCH the tierlists. They're crap for anyone that actually cares about the PSU choice.

 

On 10/19/2019 at 2:40 AM, Sleeper47 said:

and overall Jonny gave the PSU a 8.2 out of 10

JonnyGURU doesn't write the reviews, that's just the name of the site (and the founder).

Also, the number rating is almost as useless as the tier list. I suggest you read the whole review.

 

On 10/19/2019 at 2:40 AM, Sleeper47 said:

Are his reviews trustworthy, as in good for a long run?

No. You cant 100% depend on it. They don't go very in depth. Also, it's more reliable to judge based on a variety of review.

 

On 10/19/2019 at 2:40 AM, Sleeper47 said:

 

 

On 10/19/2019 at 2:40 AM, Sleeper47 said:

Will there be any difference between the 500W and 600W PSU, as JonnyGuru only reviews the 500W version?

Between 500 and 600w PSUs from the same model usually hardly change.

From 650 to 750 however some power supplies will completely change their platform.

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