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I like how everybody has come to more or less the same conclusions. I doubt that anyone will disagree with any of these answers.

There is nothing to add past this point, other than asking for specific models/brands. But let me try and diversify it a bit.

 

I don't think that the RX 580 belongs on the list, as it is not a recent card. Its age is the main factor that dictates its low cost. When it first came out, it cost significantly more - so it would be somewhat unfair to forward its current price. What's more is that it is not likely to stay relevant for too long.

For this reason I would say that the GTX 1660 is the better candidate for "best price/performance" as it costs only ~$30 more (where I live) and it is relatively new.

 

Concerning mid-range, most likely the RX 5700. Tech Deals recommended the 2060 as the best price-to-performance mid-range in his video, but I think that was only because the video did not feature the 5700. NVidia doesn't have a "middle" mid-range player at this point. The Super lineup has made both the 2060 and the 2070 more or less obsolete at that price. The 5700 has virtually no competition.

High mid-range would be the RX 5700 XT, the RTX 2070, or the RTX 2060 Super. These trade blows a bit better and they are all good for a high mid-range system. The best deal would be the cheapest of the three. However, $400 GPUs are not the first thing one thinks of when speaking of mid-range, so I'm not sure if they're relevant.

 

High end is no doubt the RTX 2080 Ti. Not that I'd be able to comment too much on the high-end market though, I left my $1000 GPU budget in my other jacket.

 

@BTGbullseye nice profile picture.

I am doing a research paper for school (Again) and I was wondering what the best graphics cards in these categories are:

1: Best price/performance

2: Best Mid range

3: Best Overall 

thanks in advance!

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1. Depends on the price bracket, Mid to high price to performance i think RX5700xt, low end RX580 8gb.

2. RX5700xt or RTX2070super

3. RTX2080

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1&2. At the low end, the GTX 1660. Mid range RX 5700, High-ish end 2070 Super

 

3. 2070 Super

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41 minutes ago, bigmouthbob1 said:

I am doing a research paper for school (Again) and I was wondering what the best graphics cards in these categories are:

1: Best price/performance

2: Best Mid range

3: Best Overall 

thanks in advance!

1. RX570

2. RX5700xt

3. RTX2080

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1 hour ago, bigmouthbob1 said:

I am doing a research paper for school (Again) and I was wondering what the best graphics cards in these categories are:

1: Best price/performance

2: Best Mid range

3: Best Overall 

thanks in advance!

1. Depends on country. The RX 580 in will have the best price/performance ratio in most countries, with the RX 570 in second place.

2. RX 5700 XT (5th best price/performance ratio for midrange after the Vega 56, RTX 2060, RX 5700, and RTX 2060 Super) or RTX 2070 Super. (though the Super might be outside the "mid-range" category due to being priced over $450USD)

3. RTX 2080 TI. It is the best consumer GPU out there, no question. (no one is going to buy the Titan V CEO Edition just to beat a 2080 TI by ~1% on a benchmark) It's nowhere near a decent price/performance ratio though, owing to its $1000USD price tag. (still better than its launch price of $1200 though)

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I like how everybody has come to more or less the same conclusions. I doubt that anyone will disagree with any of these answers.

There is nothing to add past this point, other than asking for specific models/brands. But let me try and diversify it a bit.

 

I don't think that the RX 580 belongs on the list, as it is not a recent card. Its age is the main factor that dictates its low cost. When it first came out, it cost significantly more - so it would be somewhat unfair to forward its current price. What's more is that it is not likely to stay relevant for too long.

For this reason I would say that the GTX 1660 is the better candidate for "best price/performance" as it costs only ~$30 more (where I live) and it is relatively new.

 

Concerning mid-range, most likely the RX 5700. Tech Deals recommended the 2060 as the best price-to-performance mid-range in his video, but I think that was only because the video did not feature the 5700. NVidia doesn't have a "middle" mid-range player at this point. The Super lineup has made both the 2060 and the 2070 more or less obsolete at that price. The 5700 has virtually no competition.

High mid-range would be the RX 5700 XT, the RTX 2070, or the RTX 2060 Super. These trade blows a bit better and they are all good for a high mid-range system. The best deal would be the cheapest of the three. However, $400 GPUs are not the first thing one thinks of when speaking of mid-range, so I'm not sure if they're relevant.

 

High end is no doubt the RTX 2080 Ti. Not that I'd be able to comment too much on the high-end market though, I left my $1000 GPU budget in my other jacket.

 

@BTGbullseye nice profile picture.

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2 minutes ago, Katarn said:

 

@BTGbullseye nice profile picture.

Thanks. :)

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5 hours ago, Katarn said:

I don't think that the RX 580 belongs on the list, as it is not a recent card. Its age is the main factor that dictates its low cost. When it first came out, it cost significantly more - so it would be somewhat unfair to forward its current price. What's more is that it is not likely to stay relevant for too long.

For this reason I would say that the GTX 1660 is the better candidate for "best price/performance" as it costs only ~$30 more (where I live) and it is relatively new.

The RX 580 does have a full modern feature set, (D3D 12_0, SM 6.3, OGL 4.6, Vulkan 1.1, OpenCL 2.0, Freesync 2, HDCP 2.2) despite being an older design. As it is still being sold new, it should remain in the running. As it is, the RX 570, RX 580, RX 590, and GTX 1650 all beat the GTX 1660 for price/performance in most countries.

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On 10/2/2019 at 3:24 AM, BTGbullseye said:

The RX 580 does have a full modern feature set, (D3D 12_0, SM 6.3, OGL 4.6, Vulkan 1.1, OpenCL 2.0, Freesync 2, HDCP 2.2) despite being an older design. As it is still being sold new, it should remain in the running. As it is, the RX 570, RX 580, RX 590, and GTX 1650 all beat the GTX 1660 for price/performance in most countries.

True. I was merely providing OP with some more options to work with, and the points I presented are valid.

 

The main idea behind the argument is that the RX580 has a good price because it is old. As a new card, it was not as good value as it is now; it may be contextually best price/performance, but that has more to do with circumstance, not original pricing. Moreover, at launch, it was supposed to compete with the 1060, which is becoming dated and which has been replaced by the 1660/Ti. So it makes sense to make note of these elements and offer a modern card, as opposed to a two-year-old card which primary value factor is its age.

Not to mention that the 1660 has just the kind of edge in performance that can outlast the 580 - and it is important to try and factor in longevity when estimating value.

There are also matters like thermals and power consumption, which the nVidia card does better. That adds to its value; maybe not in FPS, but it is value nonetheless.

Finally, if a user intends to work with screen-capture and/or software that favors CUDA cores, the nVidia is a no-brainer.

 

So for ~$30 more, the user gets better gaming performance, a newer model, very likely longevity, better thermals and power consumption, and superior workload performance.

I think that seen this way, the 1660 is the better deal.

 

The RX580 is a great card. In fact, I've recommended it to two budget-builders this month alone, one of whom I dissuaded from getting a 1650. But it is more of a budget card than the 1080 standard for 2019. So I wouldn't approach it as the best value, unless budget alone is the forwarded category (and so within a $30 margin).

 

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On 10/3/2019 at 4:36 PM, Katarn said:

True. I was merely providing OP with some more options to work with, and the points I presented are valid.

Indeed, I was also just providing similar info.

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