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is my i5 bottlenecking my 1060 3g

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...in what? Gaming? General usage? Video editing? Use cases help a lot.


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Just now, Simple Slimy said:

gaming and general usage

Hmm, what games might I ask?


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Just now, Dan Castellaneta said:

Hmm, what games might I ask?

minecraft,gta5,and i would like to play cyberpunk and the new watch dogs game coming out

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1 minute ago, Simple Slimy said:

minecraft,gta5,and i would like to play cyberpunk and the new watch dogs game coming out

...eh. If your CPU can handle GTA V just fine right now then you're good. That being said, a CPU upgrade definitely wouldn't hurt if you could spare some cash for one.


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1 minute ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

...eh. If your CPU can handle GTA V just fine right now then you're good. That being said, a CPU upgrade definitely wouldn't hurt if you could spare some cash for one.

i was hoping to get a discounted ryzen 5 2600

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51 minutes ago, Simple Slimy said:

i would like to play cyberpunk and the new watch dogs game coming out

Watch dogs 3 should work fine according to the rumors, as for Cyberpunk 2077 it is hard to say, the rumored requirements are not all the same, you will have to wait and find out.


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The best way to find out is to do some testing. 

 

Open task manager, go to the Performance tab.  Once you get a graph of your CPU usage history, start your games and play a while while the task manager is running in the background.  suddenly alt-tab in the middle of playing and see what the CPU graph shows.  If it was at 95-100% right until you alt-tabbed, your CPU is bottlenecking the card.  But it's hard to say how severe the bottleneck is. 

 

Sandy and Ivy bridge non-K CPUs have a limited unlock (4 clicks past max turbo, so 4.0 GHz in the case of the 3470).  Is yours running at stock speeds still?  If so, go into the BIOS and increase the multiplier to x40.  No need to mess with voltages or any other settings. 

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In CPU-intensive games, yes.

 

I've played GTA V on an i5 7400 with a 1060 6GB and I was not able to maintain a solid 60 fps. Worst of all was the fact that the game did not even look that good.

I'm not sure about Cyberpunk and the new Watch Dogs as they're not out yet, but both that GPU and the CPU will be very likely too dated for 1080 at Ultra.

 

You should keep in mind, however, that GTA V is not only unfairly demanding of the CPU, but it is also badly optimized.

On this same system I've played Batman: Arkham Knight at 1080p Ultra, and I could maintain a steady 60 fps, and the same goes for Metro: Last Light Redux, which also ran very well in stereoscopic 3D. [in case you don't know, these two are also CPU intensive games].

 

But for most other titles, the two are quite balanced.

There is still gaming use and relevance in them, as they can run the latest titles (admittedly closer to Medium than to Ultra, but that is alright for older systems).

I think that 4 core i5s and the Pascal mid-rangers have least another year or two before they drop down to the Low Preset and/or searching for performance mods.

After that, you could move on to whatever technology offers the best bang for the buck.

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I bet it is. Given how an i7

of that gen barely handled high end Kelplers with cpu intensive games of that generation. 


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On 9/29/2019 at 7:12 PM, Katarn said:

I've played GTA V on an i5 7400 with a 1060 6GB and I was not able to maintain a solid 60 fps

GTA V works fine for me on my i5 7400 paired with a GTX 970 and I usually game at a V synced 75 fps on my 75Hz monitor and the game looks really nice, you just have to play around with the settings. 🙂

 

On 9/29/2019 at 4:46 PM, Simple Slimy said:

i would like to play cyberpunk and the new watch dogs game coming out

I would not worry about those games yet, because they will not be out until next year and the rumored system requirements seem to be over inflated because people saw what hardware was being used to demo the unfinished games. 


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19 hours ago, MadAnt250 said:

GTA V works fine for me on my i5 7400 paired with a GTX 970 and I usually game at a V synced 75 fps on my 75Hz monitor and the game looks really nice, you just have to play around with the settings.

I don't have it installed anymore, but when I did, I think I averaged 60. It was fine in the city, but move outside and performance went down to 45 (desert) and even 30 (forests). Not to mention underwater which tanked (no pun intended) performance to 20 and below.

If I remember correctly, I think I played at (mostly) Very High with some settings at Ultra and some on Medium. (demanding things like AA and reflections even lower or off)

Can you screen-shot your settings and show them to me (or just tell me what they are if that is easier for you)?

 

Concerning visuals, GTA V does look nice at times, but for all the praise it got, I can't say it is visually more impressive than, say, Metal Gear Solid V: the Phantom Pain, which is very underrated in comparison. Yes, they nailed the ambient and most models/textures, but the aesthetic is mostly bland: faces/animations are not convincing, cities are empty (in appearance and level of interaction), playing without AA makes everything look incredibly jaggy, playing with a lower detail scaling uglifies any scene which renders more than 10 meters ahead of the player, and some elements like gore, water effects, character customization etc are downgrades from San Andreas.

If I recall correctly, the only 2015 AAA titles it beats in the visual department are Fallout 4 and Black Ops 3, which is not that impressive.

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19 hours ago, MadAnt250 said:

GTA V works fine for me on my i5 7400 paired with a GTX 970 and I usually game at a V synced 75 fps on my 75Hz monitor and the game looks really nice, you just have to play around with the settings. 🙂

 

I would not worry about those games yet, because they will not be out until next year and the rumored system requirements seem to be over inflated because people saw what hardware was being used to demo the unfinished games. 

Your i5 7th gen is much better than a 3rd gen i5, so you will get much better performance than OPs 3rd gen. And judging from what's floating around Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be pretty intensive, and the watchdogs series of games are notorious for running poorly on PC even with better systems.


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I have an i5 3470 - in all the research I did it was basically the GTX 1050 ti, RX 570, and GTX 1060 - anything else would be an utter waste.  The CPU is decent, good pairing imho.


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14 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

judging from what's floating around Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be pretty intensive, and the watchdogs series of games are notorious for running poorly on PC even with better systems.

Hopefully the rumored system requirements are false.

 

Cyberpunk 2077 rumored system requirements:

CPU: Intel i7-8700K @ 3.70 GHz.

RAM: 16 GB.

OS: Windows 10 64-bit.

VIDEO CARD: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti

Yea, I don't want to spend the money for a newer $383 i7 and a newer $1200 high end GPU.


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9 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

Hopefully the rumored system requirements are false.

 

Cyberpunk 2077 rumored system requirements:

CPU: Intel i7-8700K @ 3.70 GHz.

RAM: 16 GB.

OS: Windows 10 64-bit.

VIDEO CARD: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti

Yea, I don't want to spend the money for a newer $383 i7 and a newer $1200 high end GPU.

You can get a Ryzen 5 3600 which is on par with the 8700K for $194, and a 2080 for $600 or less brand new which is pretty much the same as a 1080ti but with RTX features. As for those requirements I believe they are just a place holder until the real requirements are released but from what I've heard they are still going to be pretty demanding. Check the Witcher 3's, they won't be less than that.


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9 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

You can get a Ryzen 5 3600 which is on par with the 8700K for $194, and a 2080 for $600 or less brand new which is pretty much the same as a 1080ti but with RTX features. As for those requirements I believe they are just a place holder until the real requirements are released but from what I've heard they are still going to be pretty demanding. Check the Witcher 3's, they won't be less than that.

They need to spend more time fine tuning these games so they can work better on PC, the XBOX One uses a slow CPU, shared DDR3 ram for the GPU, and a 5400 rpm HDD, in other words the console the game will be running on is a potato by today's standards compared to a decent gaming PC. So my belief is, if if they can make it work on a cheap console then requiring high end high dollar hardware for PC is unacceptable.

 

Well....thank god I have a cheap XBOX One and I hope the actual system requirements for the two games in question are more obtainable.  🙂 


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Here is a straight forward answer for you cause I see no others,

You are not being bottlenecked by the I5, you could even get a more powerful gpu and still be fine, I used a 3rd gen I5 with a GTX 1070 and it worked fine, in some games my I5 bottlenecked it, but in most it worked great!!

 

As long as you don't have any problems with playing games you want to, no need to upgrade, I still run 3rd gen intel cpus because they still work great, but you know, that's just my opinion

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14 hours ago, MadAnt250 said:

They need to spend more time fine tuning these games so they can work better on PC, the XBOX One uses a slow CPU, shared DDR3 ram for the GPU, and a 5400 rpm HDD, in other words the console the game will be running on is a potato by today's standards compared to a decent gaming PC. So my belief is, if if they can make it work on a cheap console then requiring high end high dollar hardware for PC is unacceptable.

 

Well....thank god I have a cheap XBOX One and I hope the actual system requirements for the two games in question are more obtainable.  🙂 

Well the thing with consoles like the Xbox One is the games are specifically tailored to each one and are only running on about the medium preset. I know you will be able run these games on a $500 PC, but like the Xbox One on about medium settings and your FPS won't be anything special. Recommended requirements(which are what you posted, and are not even official) are for 1080p Ultra Preset at 60fps or more. Minimum requirements which would be for a closer to console price computer are for 720p Low settings 30fps. Having a high end system is for those who want the best graphical quality they can while maintaining high frame rates at high resolutions. I was just explaining to you that you don't have to spend $1600 on a CPU and GPU to be able to play this game, lol. You can spend half the amount of the 8700k and a new 1080ti(who the hell would buy one new when you can get one in like new condition used for $500) and have the same performance as if you were to spend $1600, that's all I was trying to say. 


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11 hours ago, SpookyCitrus said:

Having a high end system is for those who want the best graphical quality they can while maintaining high frame rates at high resolutions. I was just explaining to you that you don't have to spend $1600 on a CPU and GPU to be able to play this game, lol.

Yes, that is true, and my guess is that @Simple Slimy's system will most likely be able to handle the new Watch Dogs and cyberpunk 2077 just fine with some tweaks.

 

On 9/29/2019 at 4:38 PM, Simple Slimy said:

just wondering if my i5 3470 is bottlenecking my 1060 3g 

Your setup is fine, here is a video to help

 

 


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On 10/3/2019 at 5:06 PM, SpookyCitrus said:

Your i5 7th gen is much better than a 3rd gen i5, so you will get much better performance than OPs 3rd gen. And judging from what's floating around Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be pretty intensive, and the watchdogs series of games are notorious for running poorly on PC even with better systems.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7400-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3470/3886vs2771

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8 minutes ago, Simple Slimy said:

Userbenchmark is a joke, don't use them for comparing components or trying to calculate performance.


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