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Borderlands 3 chugging too much?

PeopledCandy

So i think i still have a pretty decent setup, however i am getting pretty bad framerates all things considered in Borderlands 3....

 

Current setup:

- i7 6700K

- Asus Z170 pro gaming

- MSI GTX1080 seahawk

- Corsair 32GB RAM

- all Samsung SSD storage

- all custom loop watercooled

I am running an Acer X34a as my primary monitor (344x1440).

 

However since starting up Bordelands 3 i have noticed for the first time i cant max it out... not even close.

I have had to keep pushing the details lower and lower to a stage that i am now running the game on LOW at 3440x1440 and not managing much more than 70fps (with dips getting pretty low sometimes).

 

Do i blame this on the resolution, could something possibly be wrong, or are games just at a stage where a last Gen high end card cant even run above Low anymore on a new game?

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check the operating temperatures first

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1 minute ago, PeopledCandy said:

So i think i still have a pretty decent setup, however i am getting pretty bad framerates all things considered in Borderlands 3....

 

Current setup:

- i7 6700K

- Asus Z170 pro gaming

- MSI GTX1080 seahawk

- Corsair 32GB RAM

- all Samsung SSD storage

- all custom loop watercooled

I am running an Acer X34a as my primary monitor (344x1440).

 

However since starting up Bordelands 3 i have noticed for the first time i cant max it out... not even close.

I have had to keep pushing the details lower and lower to a stage that i am now running the game on LOW at 3440x1440 and not managing much more than 70fps (with dips getting pretty low sometimes).

 

Do i blame this on the resolution, could something possibly be wrong, or are games just at a stage where a last Gen high end card cant even run above Low anymore on a new game?

You could always blame the keylogger built into the anti-piracy system....

But in all seriousness it's because their anti-piracy system is a resource HOG and performance suffers.

You could also check temps and see if there are any weird background apps using too much resources.

why no dark mode?
Current:

Watercooled Eluktronics THICC-17 (Clevo X170SM-G):
CPU: i9-10900k @ 4.9GHz all core
GPU: RTX 2080 Super (Max P 200W)
RAM: 32GB (4x8GB) @ 3200MTs

Storage: 512GB HP EX NVMe SSD, 2TB Silicon Power NVMe SSD
Displays: Asus ROG XG-17 1080p@240Hz (G-Sync), IPS 1080p@240Hz (G-Sync), Gigabyte M32U 4k@144Hz (G-Sync), External Laptop panel (LTN173HT02) 1080p@120Hz

Asus ROG Flow Z13 (GZ301ZE) W/ Increased Power Limit:
CPU: i9-12900H @ Up to 5.0GHz all core
- dGPU: RTX 3050 Ti 4GB

- eGPU: RTX 3080 (mobile) XGm 16GB
RAM: 16GB (8x2GB) @ 5200MTs

Storage: 1TB NVMe SSD, 1TB MicroSD
Display: 1200p@120Hz

Asus Zenbook Duo (UX481FLY):

CPU: i7-10510U @ Up to 4.3 GHz all core
- GPU: MX 250
RAM: 16GB (8x2GB) @ 2133MTs

Storage: 128GB SATA M.2 (NVMe no worky)
Display: Main 1080p@60Hz + Screnpad Plus 1920x515@60Hz

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RAM: 128GB (4x32GB) DDR5 @ whatever it'll boot at xD (I think it's 3600MTs)

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12 minutes ago, Mnky313 said:

You could always blame the keylogger built into the anti-piracy system....

But in all seriousness it's because their anti-piracy system is a resource HOG and performance suffers.

You could also check temps and see if there are any weird background apps using too much resources.

definitely checked temps and those are all good, no weird background processes either.

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14 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

CPU.

 

The games runs in a virtual machine and requires 6+ cores to run well because of it.  AFAIK it can eat most of a core just for the real time code obfuscation/decryption.

Speaking words of aliens to me here bud haha.

 

Well it would really suck if it affected it so much that i cant play on medium and get more than 60fps..... did not think again that my CPU, while a few gens old, would become so useless so quickly.

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24 minutes ago, PeopledCandy said:

Do i blame this on the resolution, could something possibly be wrong, or are games just at a stage where a last Gen high end card cant even run above Low anymore on a new game?

Blame the game, period. Have you by chance tried turning off Fidelity XF? Some people have claimed it breaks an ultra-wide monitor experience in BL3.

1 minute ago, PeopledCandy said:

did not think again that my CPU, while a few gens old, would become so useless so quickly.

It's the game. Plain and simple.

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1 minute ago, PeopledCandy said:

Speaking words of aliens to me here bud haha.

 

Well it would really suck if it affected it so much that i cant play on medium and get more than 60fps..... did not think again that my CPU, while a few gens old, would become so useless so quickly.

Effectively, the game is emulating a custom CPU/OS just to run the game code.

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6 minutes ago, Intransigent said:

Blame the game, period. Have you by chance tried turning off Fidelity XF? Some people have claimed it breaks an ultra-wide monitor experience in BL3.

not sure if i tried turning it off, i just went through the presets for Low,Medium,High etc and when playing found anything above Low to be below 60, which is not ok. #firstworldproblems i know but dang. 

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31 minutes ago, PeopledCandy said:

However since starting up Bordelands 3 i have noticed for the first time i cant max it out... not even close.

Obviously you can't max settings this game at 3440x1440p as it is EXTREMELY demanding on GPU and you only have a vanilla GTX 1080.

 

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Considering 3440x1440p is even more demanding than 2560x1440p you should fail to even achieve that 50fps average.

 

Now if you want to play this game you will have to fine tune the settings instead of maxing them out, this video can help you:

 

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7 minutes ago, KarathKasun said:

Effectively, the game is emulating a custom CPU/OS just to run the game code.

I mean, that sounds cooland all, but seems the trend here is that it is the game and not somthing i can fix.... which then leads me to i guess start thinking if its time to start looking into upgrading.... but thats a tale for a different day.

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1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

Obviously you can't max settings this game at 3440x1440p as it is EXTREMELY demanding on GPU and you only have a vanilla GTX 1080.

 

image.thumb.png.f8aaedeba2ad3fdcf4fdf8b2ca29c190.png

 

Considering 3440x1440p is even more demanding than 2560x1440p you should fail to even achieve that 50fps average.

 

Now if you want to play this game you will have to fine tune the settings instead of maxing them out, this video can help you:

 

oh wow. I guess i have been riding a blissfull ignorance train for so long in that any game i wanted to play ran good enough that i didnt notice pains until now.... seems i should start tracking my possible performances more dilligently again.

 

Will try the video fixes and report back just FYI.

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7 minutes ago, PeopledCandy said:

i guess start thinking if its time to start looking into upgrading

Unless you plan to invest 1000 hours into Borderlands 3, upgrading is unnecessary. It's one game. Load up any other Borderlands game and reap the benefit of fps well beyond 100. You get the same entertainment when playing any Borderlands game. Go here, shoot gun over and over until all enemies are dead. Go here, loot this, loot that, try different gun, watch enemy melt, burn up, blow up, electrify, rinse and repeat.

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Just now, PeopledCandy said:

I mean, that sounds cooland all, but seems the trend here is that it is the game and not somthing i can fix.... which then leads me to i guess start thinking if its time to start looking into upgrading.... but thats a tale for a different day.

You pretty much hit the nail on the head.  6700k/7700k were at the very end of the quad core gaming rig era unfortunately.

 

GTX 1080 is still fairly high on the performance scale though, so you may have to spend considerably more money to get better performance.  BL3 seems to just eat GPUs for no apparent reason as well.

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