i7 9700k vs i5 9400f - Who Wins in gaming?

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, JaySDelta said:

He plays (and so do I) alote GTA V, BF4, BF1, BF5, maybe the new COD, Ghost Recon, Hitman and other AAA singleplayer.

 

He got more then 20 to 30 frames then I do, sometimes even more   not that Im not playing good but Im trying to understand why. Yes u guys make me clear, most games still need 6 cores so whatever he does, he is fine, but in future I gona win since I have 8 cores and future proof. 

Very simply explained - neither of you are CPU bound, your CPUs aren't breaking a sweat.  Your GPUs however are both running at 100%, and because his is approx. 14% better than yours...well he will always beat you in this aspect. 

 

Until his IPC and frequency comes into play, and more cores come into play.  At that time you will still be building frame time to keep your GPU pegged and his CPU will be bound, in comparison.

 

By how much, depends entirely on the game, how its coded, etc.

 

 

[Mister Woof]

Just now, Tristerin said:

Very simply explained - neither of you are CPU bound, your CPUs aren't breaking a sweat.  Your GPUs however are both running at 100%, and because his is approx. 14% better than yours...well he will always beat you in this aspect. 

 

Until his IPC and frequency comes into play, and more cores come into play.  At that time you will still be building frame time to keep your GPU pegged and his CPU will be bound, in comparison.

 

By how much, depends entirely on the game, how its coded, etc.

 

 

plot twist

 

they both have 60hz monitors

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, Plutosaurus said:

plot twist

 

they both have 60hz monitors

Okay now we have to ask...

 

OP - what monitors are you guys using?  If you are getting stuttering, he has a point lol.

[JaySDelta]

5 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Okay now we have to ask...

 

OP - what monitors are you guys using?  If you are getting stuttering, he has a point lol.

He is using a AOC with 144Hz.

Im using a 60Hz.

 

Why? Does that makes diference? 

[JaySDelta]

16 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

plot twist

 

they both have 60hz monitors

Does that matter? 

I own a 60Hz but he plays on a 144hz TN AOC I guess....

 

What does that "influence" the CPU?!  Or shutter? Does that mean I have more shutter because of 60Hz?

[Mister Woof]

Just now, JaySDelta said:

Does that matter? 

I own a 60Hz but he plays on a 144hz TN AOC I guess....

 

What does that "influence" the CPU?!  Or shutter? Does that mean I have more shutter because of 60Hz?

 

[JaySDelta]

4 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

 

 

So to my solution = upgrade to a better monitor right?   u may saved my frustration! 

[Mister Woof]

11 minutes ago, JaySDelta said:

 

So to my solution = upgrade to a better monitor right?   u may saved my frustration! 

if you are playing with vsync you'll only ever get 60fps on your current monitor (and get some input lag). if you play with it off, you won't see anything over 60 and you're wasting your GPU assuming it's not a 4k 60hz monitor

 

then theres the whole adaptive sync thing, input lag, etc. lots of stuff.

 

imo grab a good 27" 1440p 144hz or a 24" 1080p 144hz monitor that has good Freescync range and works with nvidia GPUs

[JaySDelta]

5 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

if you are playing with vsync you'll only ever get 60fps on your current monitor (and get some input lag). if you play with it off, you won't see anything over 60 and you're wasting your GPU assuming it's not a 4k 60hz monitor

 

then theres the whole adaptive sync thing, input lag, etc. lots of stuff.

 

imo grab a good 27" 1440p 144hz or a 24" 1080p 144hz monitor that has good Freescync range and works with nvidia GPUs

Most sold monitor is this:  Asus VG278Q it has G-Sync. And its at discount (250$)

 

Is it worth? 

 

[Princess Luna]

1 hour ago, Plutosaurus said:

yeah, but if you watch the video he linked the 9900 is worse than the 9400f both with a 2080 - seems weird. the 95w limit could explain it.

I mean as a owner of the locked i9 9900 myself clocked at 4.74ghz all cores that's indeed weird as the CPU doesn't bottleneck my 2080 Ti at all like ever in gaming.

[Tristerin]

1 hour ago, Plutosaurus said:

plot twist

 

they both have 60hz monitors

best answer in this thread

 

[PTGamer86]

Well if u consider a RTX 2080 Super, its very fast but costs 200€ more. Same goes for Intel i7 9700K, the price diference of i5 9500F to i7 9700K is about 220€ consider u need a better cooling solution.

 

Its kinda funny because I was buying a 9500F but realized that I rater go to a RTX 2070 Super then waste money on a CPU that give me overclocked beyond that what u can imagine. I mean, sure the i5 9500F will have 120 FPS AVG on Far Cry with a RTX 2080 Super, then I gona have 115 FPS with a i7 9700K with a RTX 2070 Super.

 

Not even overclocked on GPU side... so... future proof? Its easier to upgrade a GPU in my case... 200€ for little more frames would be worth useless I downgraded my CPU.

 

A great example is the Ryzen 3600 paired with a RTX 2080Ti against a i5 9400F. The AMD beats the hell out of the Intel side but again its wrong to test CPUs with high end cards.

[Mister Woof]

12 minutes ago, PTGamer86 said:

Well if u consider a RTX 2080 Super, its very fast but costs 200€ more. Same goes for Intel i7 9700K, the price diference of i5 9500F to i7 9700K is about 220€ consider u need a better cooling solution.

 

Its kinda funny because I was buying a 9500F but realized that I rater go to a RTX 2070 Super then waste money on a CPU that give me overclocked beyond that what u can imagine. I mean, sure the i5 9500F will have 120 FPS AVG on Far Cry with a RTX 2080 Super, then I gona have 115 FPS with a i7 9700K with a RTX 2070 Super.

 

Not even overclocked on GPU side... so... future proof? Its easier to upgrade a GPU in my case... 200€ for little more frames would be worth useless I downgraded my CPU.

 

A great example is the Ryzen 3600 paired with a RTX 2080Ti against a i5 9400F. The AMD beats the hell out of the Intel side but again its wrong to test CPUs with high end cards.

 

Are you the same person as the OP ?

[PTGamer86]

27 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

 

Are you the same person as the OP ?

No!

I just saying that he would be better off with a Ryzen then a cheap i5. I mean, if his friend plays at 144Hz then its kinda strange config having a i5 low budget for it!

 

A PC needs to be balanced, otherwise doesn´t matter if u have a high end card mixed  

[GoldenLag]

7 hours ago, JaySDelta said:

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Yes that was my concern, because some games "have shutter" but I know a guy he paired to his GTX 1080Ti and not even Far Cry 5 has shutter. HOW CAN that be true?!  

Because its stutter and Far Cry is one of those games that dont suffer from it.

 

 

There are those that do. And atm the 9400f just isnt a good choice over other options. And id argue it has barely been a great deal.

[GoldenLag]

4 hours ago, PTGamer86 said:

its wrong to test CPUs with high end cards.

Um, no? Why would it be? You are trying to show how much the CPU can give.....