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I hate G-Sync

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...is the overwhelming message I'm getting from you guys. But I don't understand all the hate?

 

 

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When I first started looking into computer terminology (:? finding out that I couldn't download ram for starters; I'm reaally new to this!) I felt some anger in posts surrounding the "gsync" question...

 

 

 

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From what I've read, these monitors are supreme and they're not just better by a margin: they're the beast. Free-Sync monitors are riddled with lag, low quality and the net is ->full<- of fakes that are indistinguishable from the real deal...!

 

 

 

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Are you willing to compromise your gaming experience because the internet is hating on NVIDIA? 

 

I'm not ?

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1. We don't like it when posts are riddled with images.

2. I am poor enough I can't afford a gsync capable card.


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Most people here are kids, and don't have the money to buy GSync monitors so they hate them.

I'd prefer a GSync monitor, they have much better response ranges. Often from 0 - 144, not like the 30+ - 144 that a FreeSync monitor might have.

 

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First of all, why did you fill your post with trash stock photos.

Second, there's no proof of the statements you've made. Even Nvidia adopted freesync with their "gsync compatible" program

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2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Most people here are kids, and don't have the money to buy GSync monitors so they hate them.

I'd prefer a GSync monitor, they have much better response ranges. Often from 0 - 144, not like the 30+ - 144 that a FreeSync monitor might have.

 

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I have a G-Sync monitor, can confirm them to be rather dank, even though I'm the type of idiot who moved from an Nvidia GPU to an AMD one and can't use G-Sync any more ?. Does noticeably help with fps drops, though mine is a 1st gen (one fo the first 2 monitors that came out with G-Sync IIRC, I got it off a cousin who got it because it was the cheapest one while still performing well) so IDK how good the range is. 


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Gsync got (past tense yes) because people get sad when their Nvidia card cant use Freesync while Gsync cost too much. This has changed since Pascal GPUs can use Freesync with DP


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12 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

I have a G-Sync monitor, can confirm them to be rather dank, even though I'm the type of idiot who moved from an Nvidia GPU to an AMD one and can't use G-Sync any more ?. Does noticeably help with fps drops, though mine is a 1st gen (one fo the first 2 monitors that came out with G-Sync IIRC, I got it off a cousin who got it because it was the cheapest one while still performing well) so IDK how good the range is. 

Haha, what AMD card did you get that was worth switching to?

 

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Gsync got (past tense yes) because people get sad when their Nvidia card cant use Freesync while Gsync cost too much. This has changed since Pascal GPUs can use Freesync with DP

I wouldn't really say it's too expensive. I'd gladly pay the extra to have the added range that GSync provides. It's more feature rich compared to FreeSync.

They can work* with FreeSync. Very important to put an asterisks, because they don't always, and when they fail, it's a pretty piss poor experience.


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15 minutes ago, Epimetheus said:

Even Nvidia adopted freesync with their "gsync compatible" program

NVIDIA adopted FreeSync after a lot of consumer demand, they sure as heck didn't adopt it immediately like they could have.

 

GSync serves its purpose in a premium segment, but the fact that NVIDIA kept pushing it rather than the free alternative is what got people upset. I see why they did it, it'd be incredibly hard to market a premium feature like GSync in a situation where you get a theoretically similar product for a lot cheaper, but I don't agree with it.


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1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Haha, what AMD card did you get that was worth switching to?

More like what Nvidia card he was with?

 

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

It's more feature rich compared to FreeSync.

Sadly that doesnt make it to $800 builds


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Haha, what AMD card did you get that was worth switching to?

Radeon VII, I just like tinkering with Vega cards. I went from a 980 Ti to a 1080, to 2 1080s, to a Vega FE for a bit, then a 1080 Ti. Got my RVII at launch (literally the next day due to the power of overnight shipping), it's kinda special to me. Ended up trading the 1080 Ti to a friend for a 1660 Ti + cash since I wasn't using the 1080 Ti, and kinda felt bad having a beefy Gaming X lad just sitting around doing nothing. The 1660 Ti worked out well, it's in my folding rig now and is excellent for that. Second only to the 2060 in PPD/$ and very low power draw (pulls the same points my $699 200-300W eating RVII does, sometimes pulls more). 


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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

More like what Nvidia card he was with?

 

Sadly that doesnt make it to $800 builds

And why should it? You're offering a premium experience, you charge a premium price.

Just reinforces my initial comment. Those that don't like it simply can't afford it. salty fucks

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

Radeon VII, I just like tinkering with Vega cards. I went from a 980 Ti to a 1080, to 2 1080s, to a Vega FE for a bit, then a 1080 Ti. Got my RVII at launch (literally the next day due to the power of overnight shipping), it's kinda special to me. Ended up trading the 1080 Ti to a friend for a 1660 Ti + cash since I wasn't using the 1080 Ti, and kinda felt bad having a beefy Gaming X lad just sitting around doing nothing. The 1660 Ti worked out well, it's in my folding rig now and is excellent for that. Second only to the 2060 in PPD/$ and very low power draw (pulls the same points my $699 200-300W eating RVII does, sometimes pulls more). 

Ahhh yes. That card seems rather beastly. Time to invest in a FreeSync monitor? ;)

There's loads that go cheap on eBay all the time. Personally I'm looking at getting a Viotek 30" 21:9 with FreeSync.


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Well, I don't have any Nvidia cards minus the one in my new laptop because I put work stuff before gaming, so I feel it's kinda pointless to use a G-Sync monitor when my workstations have a VII and A Vega 64.  So, I'll stick to freesync.  My issue with G-Sync isn't the idea, but rather the cost.  I mean I get part of the cost, but G-Sync prices use to be really really bad.  Some have gotten cheaper at least.


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Just now, dizmo said:

Ahhh yes. That card seems rather beastly. Time to invest in a FreeSync monitor? ;)

There's loads that go cheap on eBay all the time. Personally I'm looking at getting a Viotek 30" 21:9 with FreeSync.

May replace this with another G-Sync monitor if I can save the mons tbh. I want to get a 5960X for this current rig, then a 2080 Ti and block along with a 1440p high refresh rate monitor for when Cyberpunk 2077 comes out (looks to be an amazing RPG, I like those, and it's fuckin gorgeous and will hopefully use raytracing to further that). Will move the Radeon VII either onto my EVGA Micro2 with the 5820K I have now, or go fucking insane and stuff my SR-2 inside a PowerMac G5 case, put the RVII on that, and watercool the whole thing because I have the VRM blocks for the SR-2 so I need to do that at some point in time. 


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10 minutes ago, dizmo said:

And why should it? You're offering a premium experience, you charge a premium price.

Just reinforces my initial comment. Those that don't like it simply can't afford it. salty fucks

I'm just refering to the cheap-ish part lists I make. Screw those who try to fit more into their budget without willing to sacrifice something else


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10 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

May replace this with another G-Sync monitor if I can save the mons tbh. I want to get a 5960X for this current rig, then a 2080 Ti and block along with a 1440p high refresh rate monitor for when Cyberpunk 2077 comes out (looks to be an amazing RPG, I like those, and it's fuckin gorgeous and will hopefully use raytracing to further that). Will move the Radeon VII either onto my EVGA Micro2 with the 5820K I have now, or go fucking insane and stuff my SR-2 inside a PowerMac G5 case, put the RVII on that, and watercool the whole thing because I have the VRM blocks for the SR-2 so I need to do that at some point in time. 

Haha, I'm planning to build a new rig for Cyberpunk as well. First, new rig this year for CoD. Then a new one next year for CyberPunk.

I wish I could justify needing 2 PCs, but I just...can't.

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I'm just refering to the cheap-ish part lists I make. Screw those who try to fit more into their budget without willing to sacrifice something else

If you can't afford it, you can't afford it *shrug*


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2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Haha, I'm planning to build a new rig for Cyberpunk as well. First, new rig this year for CoD. Then a new one next year for CyberPunk.

I wish I could justify needing 2 PCs, but I just...can't.

Same, I usually have 2-3 PCs built but like... I can only use one at a time. F@H has thankfully given one of mine purpose, the other rig put together is my main gaming rig. I've had more in the past but I didn't really use them, that's why I've given away a couple and sold/traded some others. I'd love to collect hardware but I feel bad just having it sit around. 

And mmmmm that CoD though, I've never been a CoD guy but goddamn does it look amazing, will probably pick it up unless they do something really stupid with it. 


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Mac Pro 1,1 - (EFI flashed to 2,1) - 2x 2.66Ghz Dual Core LGA771 Xeons (2x X5355s - just need the motivation/time to actually install them) - 32GB 667Mhz ECC DDR2 - ATI HD4870 512MB - 525GB MX300 + 3x 2TB Seagate Barracuda HDDs - 24" Apple Cinema Display (1920x1200 TFT panel)

 

2019 13" rMBP (i5/8GB/256GB) {work} - 2012 13" MBP (i5/16GB/1TB MX500 + 2TB Firecuda) {mine} - iPhone 11 Pro Max + Apple Watch S3 42mm - iPod Classic 6G 80GB running Rockbox + iPod Classic 5.5G Enhanced 30GB also on Rockbox 

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27 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Same, I usually have 2-3 PCs built but like... I can only use one at a time. F@H has thankfully given one of mine purpose, the other rig put together is my main gaming rig. I've had more in the past but I didn't really use them, that's why I've given away a couple and sold/traded some others. I'd love to collect hardware but I feel bad just having it sit around. 

And mmmmm that CoD though, I've never been a CoD guy but goddamn does it look amazing, will probably pick it up unless they do something really stupid with it. 

I wanted to build a f@h PC actually. Add some more badges to my title. Does it need a powerful CPU, or GPU?

 

They have loot boxes. But I imagine they're mostly cosmetic, or at most, with operators. People are already complaining. I don't see the issue. It's just cosmetic stuff, you don't need it, and even if they throw the operators in there, it doesn't affect the gameplay.


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CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

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CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I wanted to build a f@h PC actually. Add some more badges to my title. Does it need a powerful CPU, or GPU?

GPUs, CPU folding does basiclally nothing. The RTX 2060 is the best PPD/$ card that exists right now, if you need to save money then the 1660 Ti is a very close second at a lower price. Vega cards, despite their compute horsepower, are basically garbo for F@H workloads. 


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Current Main - i7 6950X (currently stock) - EVGA CLC 280 - EVGA X99 Micro 2 - 32 GB RAM [4x8GB HyperX Predator DDR4] @3200Mhz CL16-18-18-36 CR2 - Nvidia FE 2060 Super - 1TB 970 Evo - Corsair RM1000i - Fractal Design Meshify C Mini - 4x Noctua iPPC NF-A14 3000s + 1 Noctua iPPC NF-F12 2000
 

Bits - i7 5960X - undecided - EVGA X99 Classified - 16 GB RAM [4x4GB EVGA SSC DDR4] - undecided - 250GB 960 Evo - undecided - Corsair 750D

 

Mac Pro 1,1 - (EFI flashed to 2,1) - 2x 2.66Ghz Dual Core LGA771 Xeons (2x X5355s - just need the motivation/time to actually install them) - 32GB 667Mhz ECC DDR2 - ATI HD4870 512MB - 525GB MX300 + 3x 2TB Seagate Barracuda HDDs - 24" Apple Cinema Display (1920x1200 TFT panel)

 

2019 13" rMBP (i5/8GB/256GB) {work} - 2012 13" MBP (i5/16GB/1TB MX500 + 2TB Firecuda) {mine} - iPhone 11 Pro Max + Apple Watch S3 42mm - iPod Classic 6G 80GB running Rockbox + iPod Classic 5.5G Enhanced 30GB also on Rockbox 

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i hate Gsync on my laptop, have an Alienware 17R4 i got for cheap though my company, really did not want an alienware, but a cheap laptop with a high refresh rate 1440p panel, 1070OC and 16gig of ram and a 8750h is okay..

 

the main problem is, it has a GIANT battery, that should last for 10 hours, but because of the fucking G-sync, it runs dead for 2 hours, since you cannot run on the onboard, you have to accept the NVidia 1070...

 

i could even accept being able to disable the nvidia card in the bios, when i just want to use it as a surf machine, but.. NOPE.. it cannot be disable, AT ALL... for me G-sync in a laptop is really a no go, if it disables possibility of running onboad for power saving.

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4 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

GPUs, CPU folding does basiclally nothing. The RTX 2060 is the best PPD/$ card that exists right now, if you need to save money then the 1660 Ti is a very close second at a lower price. Vega cards, despite their compute horsepower, are basically garbo for F@H workloads. 

Hmmm good to know. I'll probably aim for a 1660Ti since I don't want to invest too much into it.
We'll see what comes about when it comes time to sell the build I'm doing now to build the uber build for CyberPunk.


Current PC:

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CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

Spoiler

CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

Spoiler

 

CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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