Gaming PC First Build

[MrMrEvil]

Hey everyone, looking for some advice on my first build ever. I'm in Australia and this PC will only really be used for Gaming.

 

This is my current build

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$514.00 @ Shopping Express
CPU Cooler	Corsair H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$169.00 @ Scorptec
Motherboard	Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard	$359.00 @ IJK
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$248.00 @ IJK
Storage	Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$303.00 @ Centre Com
Storage	Seagate Barracuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Video Card	Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card	$737.00 @ Skycomp Technology
Case	Phanteks Enthoo Pro M TG ATX Mid Tower Case	$149.00 @ PCCaseGear
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$174.00 @ Shopping Express
Optical Drive	Lite-On IHBS312-98 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer	Purchased For $0.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2653.00
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-15 22:08 AEST+1000

The $0.00 items are from my 7yr old PC that this will replacing.

 

I'm planning to try and overclock this build.

Questions

Q1. Australia is 2 days off getting a shipment of PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT Red Devil 8GB for $749 so only $12 more than the Gigabyte I currently have, is the Red Devil $12 better?

Q2. Read a bit about the G.Skill Trident Z ram being better quality, the G.Skill Trident Z 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3200 with same latency (16) is $50 more than the Ripjaws I have currently, worth the little extra? particularly when im going to OC and have a amd CPU which like good RAM?

Q3. So I have Windows 7 currently installed on the 120GB SSD, when im building my new PC do I just leave it where it is and use it for my new PC, or should I try and transfer it to my new M.2? Should I even bother keeping the ssd since its fairly small and currently only has windows 7 + whatever settings are stored there.

Q4. I'm a little unsure on the samsung 970 evo plus in that it might be a lot higher quality than i need and i could instead throw an extra ~$200 at upgrading to a 2070 Super.

 

 

I'm hoping this build wont be too complicated for my first, any advice or criticism on the build is helpful.

 

[berberries]

1. the red devil cards are known to be pretty good, go for that.

2. not really sure if these specific ram falls into the skhynix vs samsung B-Die flash, but if the trident z is Samsung B-Die and Ripjaws aren't, go for it.

3. install a brand new copy of windows 10 onto the 970 evo, if im not wrong win7 wont even boot on ryzen.

4. to save some money you may consider something like an intel 660p ssd which is much cheaper. it works good enough for most people including gamers.

[Schubaltz]

System looks great!

Q1: There isn't a whole lot of difference between most coolers if they are decent quality. The PCCG Red Devil cards aren't the special edition, either. I personally got the cheapest 5700 XT (XFX RAW II) and it is almost the exact same in terms of temperature and performance.

 

Q2: Don't really have enough knowledge in that area to help with that.

 

Q3: Honestly Windows 10 is stable enough now that I recommend upgrading. A new PC would be a great time to do so.

 

Q4: I personally find Samsung SSDs to be the most reliable. The data on my PC is more valuable to me than upgrading a GPU, but it's totally up to you -- can't really go wrong!

 

Side note: I've never used PC Part Picker, but it may be cheaper if you get all the parts from the same site (shipping). I use PCCG and they also offer a building service where they'll build the system for you.

[hello_there_123]

Oh look, here's a decent Phison E12 drive that has similar-ish performance to the 970 plus for almost half the cost 

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/2sdxFT/silicon-power-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-sp001tbp34a80m28

[hello_there_123]

58 minutes ago, Schubaltz said:

Q4: I personally find Samsung SSDs to be the most reliable. The data on my PC is more valuable to me than upgrading a GPU, but it's totally up to you -- can't really go wrong!

I also personally find the Kingston A400 to be much more reliable than the 970 pro. See what subjectivity does without any facts such as failure rates? 

[VEXICUS]

I'll recommend something like this instead...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($314.00 @ Shopping Express) R5 3600 should be sufficient for gaming.
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($152.00 @ Skycomp Technology) Supports zen2 CPUs out of the box.
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($145.00 @ Amazon Australia) 3600mhz cl17 kit
Storage: HP EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($181.46 @ Amazon Australia) NVME SSD with DRAM cache.
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card  ($722.00 @ Skycomp Technology) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($99.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Total: $1762.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-16 03:41 AEST+1000

[hello_there_123]

8 hours ago, VEXICUS said:

Storage: HP EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($181.46 @ Amazon Australia) NVME SSD with DRAM cache.

For OP's case I would get a 660p/P1 whichever is cheaper over the more expensive E12/SM2262/EN drives. 

 

8 hours ago, VEXICUS said:

Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($99.00 @ PCCaseGear) 

Not a great option when the higher quality CX550 is much cheaper... TXM is a bit more if you desire semi/fullmod 

[VEXICUS]

12 minutes ago, hello_there_123 said:

For OP's case I would get a 660p/P1 whichever is cheaper over the more expensive E12/SM2262/EN drives. 

 

Not a great option when the higher quality CX550 is much cheaper... TXM is a bit more if you desire semi/fullmod 

You are correct. SSD can be swapped with something like a 660p/p1 or even a QVO. 

 

For PSU, I'll quote @LukeSavenije , @LienusLateTips and @Stefan Payne on that one.

[hello_there_123]

7 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

For PSU, I'll quote @LukeSavenije , @LienusLateTips and @Stefan Payne on that one.

Bet? If you're gonna quote all the members who made the PSU tier list, may as well mention Seon123 while you're at it... 

[VEXICUS]

17 minutes ago, hello_there_123 said:

Bet? If you're gonna quote all the members who made the PSU tier list, may as well mention Seon123 while you're at it... 

No major mentions of seon123 in the newest PSU tier list.

 

[LukeSavenije]

3 hours ago, VEXICUS said:

For PSU, I'll quote @LukeSavenije , @LienusLateTips and @Stefan Payne on that one.

I'd call cx and pp11 about the same level

 

but he's right on that the txm is better

[VEXICUS]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

I'd call cx and pp11 about the same level

 

but he's right on that the txm is better

Quoted you for his claim of CX being better than pp11.

 

IK that txm is better.

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, VEXICUS said:

Quoted you for his claim of CX being better than pp11.

cx does have some advantages, but like, both are good PSUs that i would put in the same tier

[VEXICUS]

11 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

cx does have some advantages, but like, both are good PSUs that i would put in the same tier

Then why are both of them not in the same tier in the PSU tier list?

PP11 is in the high end tier where as CX is in the budget tier in the PSU tier list.

[LukeSavenije]

23 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

Then why are both of them not in the same tier in the PSU tier list?

because I'm currently busy with a huge update, which actually has them in the same tier

[GoldenLag]

18 hours ago, MrMrEvil said:

Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

save money, go for lower wattage. 

18 hours ago, MrMrEvil said:

CPU Cooler Corsair H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $169.00 @ Scorptec

waste of money

18 hours ago, MrMrEvil said:

Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $303.00 @ Centre Com

overpriced to samsung tax. 

18 hours ago, MrMrEvil said:

Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $248.00 @ IJK

unneccesary. 16 gb is enough. 

[GoldenLag]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($517.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($369.00 @ PLE Computers) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($132.00 @ Skycomp Technology) 
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($210.63 @ Amazon Australia) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($737.00 @ Skycomp Technology) 
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($105.00 @ Scorptec) 
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHBS312-98 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $2219.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-16 18:24 AEST+1000

 

a lot cheaper build for the same performance. 

[Guest]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($517.00 @ Shopping Express) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler  ($64.80 @ Amazon Australia) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($188.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($121.00 @ Skycomp Technology) 
Storage: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($165.00 @ IJK) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($737.00 @ Skycomp Technology) 
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($117.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHBS312-98 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Total: $2058.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-16 21:01 AEST+1000

[MrMrEvil]

Thanks for all the help everyone! Already saved $400 with this changed build so far.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$517.00 @ Shopping Express
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$119.00 @ PCCaseGear
Motherboard	MSI X570-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$258.00 @ Shopping Express
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$247.00 @ Shopping Express
Storage	Intel 520 Series Cherryville 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Storage	Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$210.63 @ Amazon Australia
Storage	Seagate Barracuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Video Card	PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Red Devil Video Card	$749.00
Case	Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$138.00 @ Shopping Express
Optical Drive	Lite-On IHBS312-98 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer	Purchased For $0.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2238.63
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-17 13:32 AEST+1000

Is the be quiet! Dark Rock going to be good enough for overclocking (not super exteme, as its a first build)? It saves a decent amount of money over the water cooler because then i dont need to buy a new case, and can just reuse my old one.

 

A little worried about this MOBO though as I read its one of the worse x570 boards.

There is also a compatibility note on this motherboard:

 

"Note:The MSI X570-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply does not. This connector is used to supply additional 12V current to the motherboard. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands such as extreme overclocking or large video card current draws may require it."

 

Is this anything to worry about?

 

My last decision is a new 1080p or 1440p 144hz monitor, if I want a 1440p it seems i have to wait a month for this

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/41706/acer-kg271ua-qhd-144hz-freesync-27in-monitor/

to be in stock.

 

Thank you for all the help.

Edited September 17, 2019 by MrMrEvil
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