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B450 FOR RYZEN 4000???

1 minute ago, Redrooster said:

I bought the b450 tomahawk because it was the only the best mobo i could squeeze into my budget, I chose to switch to AMD because I wanted an upgrade path.

To be fair, you do have a decent upgrade path. Ryzen 3000 will net you a 15% increase in single-core performance, and you can get higher core counts and clockspeeds.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Did I buy a dead-end mobo??? I got the B450 Tomahawk, I was just wondering when I upgrade in like 3-5 years (depending on how next gen treats the r5 2600) will I have to up the mobo too?


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5 minutes ago, Redrooster said:

Did I buy a dead-end mobo??? I got the B450 Tomahawk, I was just wondering when I upgrade in like 3-5 years (depending on how next gen treats the r5 2600) will I have to up the mobo too?

It'll probably get bios support, but for just gaming at up to 144hz your 2600 is going to be fine for a long while.


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It depends on how long AMD keeps AM4 before moving on to AM4+/AM5. Next-gen chips may be compatible with AM4 (assuming the claim of AMD supporting AM4 until 2020 is true). Then again, we also can't expect companies to keep platforms active for that long. AMD is already outside of the norm considering Intel supports a socket for two years max.

 

As for the board itself, so long as you don't plan on going above 8 or 12 cores with overclocking, I can't see why the board itself shouldn't be capable.


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It is my opinion that if you're buying a B450 mobo then you're buying according to your immediate needs.  I can understand being hopeful, but if you are realistic then you won't be disappointed later.  


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You should never expect a motherboard to last 5 years. I don't think there's ever been a company that's used the same socket for that long, and honestly, I don't think it'd be good if they did. AMD might be the first, but even they're switching out in 2020.

 

33 minutes ago, TheSLSAMG said:

It depends on how long AMD keeps AM4 before moving on to AM4+/AM5. Next-gen chips may be compatible with AM4 (assuming the claim of AMD supporting AM4 until 2020 is true). Then again, we also can't expect companies to keep platforms active for that long. AMD is already outside of the norm considering Intel supports a socket for two years max.

 

As for the board itself, so long as you don't plan on going above 8 or 12 cores with overclocking, I can't see why the board itself shouldn't be capable.

Kind of depends. You really have to look at the wording. As you put it yourself, until 2020 would mean that 2020 would be a new socket.


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1 minute ago, dizmo said:

You should never expect a motherboard to last 5 years. I don't think there's ever been a company that's used the same socket for that long, and honestly, I don't think it'd be good if they did. AMD might be the first, but even they're switching out in 2020.

 

Kind of depends. You really have to look at the wording. As you put it yourself, until 2020 would mean that 2020 would be a new socket.

so what you are saying is the Ryzen 9 3900x is the limit for AM4?


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8 minutes ago, nick name said:

It is my opinion that if you're buying a B450 mobo then you're buying according to your immediate needs.  I can understand being hopeful, but if you are realistic then you won't be disappointed later.  

I bought the b450 tomahawk because it was the only the best mobo i could squeeze into my budget, I chose to switch to AMD because I wanted an upgrade path.


CPU: Ryzen 5 2600

GPU: Zotac RTX 2060

RAM: 16GB 3200mHz Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO

MOBO: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK

STORAGE: 500gb 7200rpm boot drive, 2tb USB 3.0 Seagate game drive

PSU: 650w Corsair CX

CASE: NZXT H500i

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1 minute ago, Redrooster said:

I bought the b450 tomahawk because it was the only the best mobo i could squeeze into my budget, I chose to switch to AMD because I wanted an upgrade path.

To be fair, you do have a decent upgrade path. Ryzen 3000 will net you a 15% increase in single-core performance, and you can get higher core counts and clockspeeds.


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22 minutes ago, dizmo said:

You should never expect a motherboard to last 5 years. I don't think there's ever been a company that's used the same socket for that long

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18 minutes ago, TheSLSAMG said:

To be fair, you do have a decent upgrade path. Ryzen 3000 will net you a 15% increase in single-core performance, and you can get higher core counts and clockspeeds.

I figured I could at LEAST ride out the next console generation with a Ryzen 9 3900x when I need to upgrade past the R5 2600


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It always gets me that people focus so much on the upgrade path on a $100 part

 

By the time the next $400 CPU comes out the $100 you spent on your current motherboard will have already paid itself.

 

Just buy the new one.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

It always gets me that people focus so much on the upgrade path on a $100 part

 

By the time the next $400 CPU comes out the $100 you spent on your current motherboard will have already paid itself.

 

Just buy the new one.

Its convenient to not upgrade your mobo every time a new line comes out. It's kinda the most annoying part to take out. I see what you mean, I just upgrade every three years or so. (I'll probably upgrade my mobo in like 6 years)


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27 minutes ago, Redrooster said:

Its convenient to not upgrade your mobo every time a new line comes out. It's kinda the most annoying part to take out. I see what you mean, I just upgrade every three years or so. (I'll probably upgrade my mobo in like 6 years)

I upgrade everything every 5 or 6. Seems to get you the most out of your money.


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