AMD Ryzen 3950x Possibly Releasing Sept. 30th

[BigDamn]

It appears that rumors/predictions of an early September release date for AMD's 16core Ryzen 3950x will be met with disappointment. Listings for the product appeared on a German store with a launch date of September 30th which still falls within AMD's blanked release date of September.

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AMD announced the AMD Ryzen 9 3950X way back at E3 2019, a 16-core, 32-thread mainstream processor for release in September. And, we might actually have a clue as to the date this monster processor will hit the streets. 

 

The AMD Ryzen 9 3950X showed up on German store Digitec, with a September 30 release date. Back when AMD announced the processor, it was for a September release – so a September 30 release date falls within that window, if only just barely.

While this may seem like a definitive answer (to an extent) there is more to consider, as Tech Radar states:

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It should be noted, however, that the AMD Ryzen 9 3950X is listed on Digitec for €999 (about $1,120, £920, AU$1,650). This price is probably just a placeholder, as the AMD Ryzen 9 3950X was announced at a $749 (about £620, AU$1,100) price point.

Still, it's entirely possible that this leaked date is inaccurate, as the last day of September could just be a placeholder - after all, the official release window is just "September 2019" at the time of this writing. September is ongoing, however, so if AMD is going to push this processor out by the end of the month, we'll likely hear from it in the very near future. 

 

I find the price inaccuracy a bit odd, considering that we already know what the price is going to be, but I wouldn't be surprised if the release date was legit. Often it seems that when companies specify only a month as their release date, the actual release date will be at the end of the month. It's as if they're trying to get your hopes up for a September release, but it's more of an October release. September just sounds better to say. What do you all think of this? Does a September 30th release make sense to you?

[porina]

The 3900X has been in shortage even if it has been out for some time now. Pricing is elevated from where it should be. If the situation isn't better with the 3950X, expect scalping on that too.

[StarsMars]

I think they might be holding off to make sure it hits the advertised boost clocks.

They are working on current Zen2 updates so they don't end up with another class action.

[Himmelganger]

Here in Norway the 3900x has actually gone down in Price since launch by about 70 USD

[dizmo]

I'd be much more interested if this was about their upper echelon video cards.

A 32 core CPU? Yawn.

 

Bring me big Navi!

[IntMD]

16 hours ago, BigDamn said:

It appears that rumors/predictions of an early September release date for AMD's 16core Ryzen 3950x will be met with disappointment. Listings for the product appeared on a German store with a launch date of September 30th which still falls within AMD's blanked release date of September.

While this may seem like a definitive answer (to an extent) there is more to consider, as Tech Radar states:

 

I find the price inaccuracy a bit odd, considering that we already know what the price is going to be, but I wouldn't be surprised if the release date was legit. Often it seems that when companies specify only a month as their release date, the actual release date will be at the end of the month. It's as if they're trying to get your hopes up for a September release, but it's more of an October release. September just sounds better to say. What do you all think of this? Does a September 30th release make sense to you?

I will start out with, I do think it is probably just a placeholder amount, however, it would probably help if Tech Radar actually noticed that the website is actually a Swiss website and therefore the price is in Swiss Francs, not Euros and the USD price equivalent is pretty much USD1000.00 not USD1120.00 like they said. Also, as it is in a pretty sensible country, it will include the VAT in the amount shown, which at the Swiss rate is apparently 7.7%, which equates to about USD930.00ish without the tax included. Also Switzerland is expensive af, so it wouldn't surprise me if it isn't still the equivalent without tax included of somewhere around CHF/USD ~900.00 when actual retail arrives there.

[yolosnail]

15 minutes ago, IntMD said:

I will start out with, I do think it is probably just a placeholder amount, however, it would probably help if Tech Radar actually noticed that the website is actually a Swiss website and therefore the price is in Swiss Francs, not Euros and the USD price equivalent is pretty much USD1000.00 not USD1120.00 like they said. Also, as it is in a pretty sensible country, it will include the VAT in the amount shown, which at the Swiss rate is apparently 7.7%, which equates to about USD930.00ish without the tax included. Also Switzerland is expensive af, so it wouldn't surprise me if it isn't still the equivalent without tax included of somewhere around CHF/USD ~900.00 when actual retail arrives there.

It's almost as if they were intentionally trying to mislead readers so they click the article!

I'm sure no web publication would do such a thing

[Deli]

Maybe a few reviewers will get the chips. The product won't land in stores until next year, or maybe 2021.

 

Ryzen 5 3600 already starts selling below MSPR. 3900X is still on "pre-order" since launch.

[Doobeedoo]

Very interesting chip though. 

[GoldenLag]

a feel like the issue with Zen 2 is gonna be supply issues. the question is how much fab space AMD is managing to get while many are scrambling to produce their chips at TSMC. 

[5x5]

2 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

I feel like the issues with a bigger navi+this is indeed yield issues.  Which, iirc, is why GlobalFoundries got out of the game.

Yields aren't the problem. The reason the 3950X was delayed till this month is Epyc is FAR more profitable and demand.was very high. Epyc 2, as with Ryzen 3000, garnered massive popularity and the momentum meant more production and choppers had to be allocated to the server space rather than HCC deaktop

[PlayStation 2]

Never say never on it coming out this month: the Athlon 200GE was on an ongoing wait last year until it randomly dropped on September 21st.

[williamcll]

Gonna be interested in how it performs in single core as well as intel's HEDT line.

[BigDamn]

1 hour ago, williamcll said:

Gonna be interested in how it performs in single core as well as intel's HEDT line.

At the very least, it has the highest boost clock of any Ryzen CPU to date. This will help in gaming and Adobe software.

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, BigDamn said:

At the very least, it has the highest boost clock of any Ryzen CPU to date. This will help in gaming and Adobe software.

Cloclspeed really isnt why its great in adobe software. Its the low latency ringbus and iGPU. And its the iGPU that makes literally all the skylake X CPUs a joke in Adobe together with AMD products as they honestly cannot compete in that workload.

[Rune]

6 hours ago, Deli said:

3900X is still on "pre-order" since launch.

Up until about last week we had them in quantity every day since launch week....

[porina]

3 hours ago, 5x5 said:

Yields aren't the problem. The reason the 3950X was delayed till this month is Epyc is FAR more profitable and demand.was very high. Epyc 2, as with Ryzen 3000, garnered massive popularity and the momentum meant more production and choppers had to be allocated to the server space rather than HCC deaktop

It might not be yield as in good/bad but it could be yield as in getting enough "good" bins for clock. The low end seems plentiful enough.

 

Also do we know for sure the server parts are the same CCD as consumer ones? I'm probably over thinking it again, but part reason for the half bandwidth writes on consumer CPUs was apparently client workloads didn't need more. Does that apply to server also? 

 

34 minutes ago, Rune said:

Up until about last week we had them in quantity every day since launch week....

Which region? In UK at least the more sensibly priced ones are constrained in stock. Only regular supply from those with elevated pricing.

[5x5]

1 minute ago, porina said:

It might not be yield as in good/bad but it could be yield as in getting enough "good" bins for clock. The low end seems plentiful enough.

 

Also do we know for sure the server parts are the same CCD as consumer ones? I'm probably over thinking it again, but part reason for the half bandwidth writes on consumer CPUs was apparently client workloads didn't need more. Does that apply to server also? 

 

Which region? In UK at least the more sensibly priced ones are constrained in stock. Only regular supply from those with elevated pricing.

From what I've seen/read the chiplets are mostly identical - I haven't heard of specific Server/Desktop chiplets. But I'm far from omniscient so...

[Rune]

1 minute ago, porina said:

Which region? In UK at least the more sensibly priced ones are constrained in stock. Only regular supply from those with elevated pricing.

Microcenter US

[porina]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

From what I've seen/read the chiplets are mostly identical - I haven't heard of specific Server/Desktop chiplets. But I'm far from omniscient so...

"mostly"... it is any possible difference I'm curious about. If they are not identical, they'd have to manage separately. Can't steal from consumer to top up server if that is the case, except at fab allocation level.

[Dylanc1500]

8 minutes ago, Rune said:

Microcenter US

Which one? The last time I went to the one in Dallas they only had the 3800X for $399, however they didn't have any 3900X's in stock.

[5x5]

49 minutes ago, Dylanc1500 said:

Which one? The last time I went to the one in Dallas they only had the 3800X for $399, however they didn't have any 3900X's in stock.

3900X has been in stock for months in Europe. - I think it might be an issue of your local area tbh

[DildorTheDecent]

>end of the month

 

AMD pls.

[Deli]

2 hours ago, Rune said:

Up until about last week we had them in quantity every day since launch week....

If you don't mind to pay early adopter tax. The 3900X can be had for like €700+. Anywhere with a more reasonable listed price of €549 are permanently shown as "pre-order".

[Deli]

42 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

3900X has been in stock for months in Europe. - I think it might be an issue of your local area tbh

You can grab one if you're fast. I do see them in stock occasionally, like a few hours. Then they're out of stock again. Or if you don't mind paying extortionately high price. How about €760?