Acer Predator Helios 500 AMD

[Chiyawa]

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-PH517-61-R0GX-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07GWX5X26/?ascsubtag=UUwpUdUnU65987YYwYg&currency=USD&tag=wpcentralb-20

 

I spotted this at Amazon, and was thinking, should I go for this or buy a desktop instead? In any case, I wonder if it can support Ryzen 3000 desktop processors...

 

Okay, I need to be clear (as many of you might not get it). My usage is more towards working, such as rendering video and 3D model, but I also want this system to be able to game. In other words, more of multi-role then a pure gaming or workstation. Vega graphic card fits in nicely, although it is not a superb gaming graphic card.

 

Software intended to use:

- AutoCAD

- Solid Works

- Cyberlink Power Director

 

Games intended to play:

- Assassin Creed 5

- Battlefield 5

- Tomb Raider (maybe in the future)

 

Budget: About USD 1600.

[ZeouLs]

Not sure if they would roll it out with a 3700 in near future. The 2700 is not even out for a year yet.

 

EDIT: I should also mention that iirc the clockspeed with 8 cores is 3.5 GHz while Intel 8750h with 6 Cores puts out 3.9 GHz (Certain on intel, since I have one). You could bump it up though with Ryzen Master

[5x5]

38 minutes ago, ZeouLs said:

Not sure if they would roll it out with a 3700 in near future. The 2700 is not even out for a year yet.

 

EDIT: I should also mention that iirc the clockspeed with 8 cores is 3.5 GHz while Intel 8750h with 6 Cores puts out 3.9 GHz (Certain on intel, since I have one). You could bump it up though with Ryzen Master

The 8750Hs ckockspeed varies HEAVILY from laptop to laptop. And it only has six cores and less cache so the 2700 would still crush it

[Stormseeker9]

1 hour ago, Chiyawa said:

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-PH517-61-R0GX-Processor-Graphics/dp/B07GWX5X26/?ascsubtag=UUwpUdUnU65987YYwYg&currency=USD&tag=wpcentralb-20

 

I spotted this at Amazon, and was thinking, should I go for this or buy a desktop instead? In any case, I wonder if it can support Ryzen 3000 desktop processors...

 

Okay, I need to be clear (as many of you might not get it). My usage is more towards working, such as rendering video and 3D model, but I also want this system to be able to game. In other words, more of multi-role then a pure gaming or workstation. Vega graphic card fits in nicely, although it is not a superb gaming graphic card.

 

Software intended to use:

- AutoCAD

- Solid Works

- Cyberlink Power Director

 

Games intended to play:

- Assassin Creed 5

- Battlefield 5

- Tomb Raider (maybe in the future)

 

Budget: About USD 1600.

for your usage I'd recommend going with a PC instead of laptop. You will get a far more powerful PC building ti yourself, than buying a pre built laptop. Thermals are always an issue in laptops.

 

Just as an idea:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$327.89 @ B&H
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard	$199.00 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$87.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$74.99 @ Adorama
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$42.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card	$504.98 @ Newegg
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$94.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1452.72
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1432.72
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-11 07:11 EDT-0400

 

[ZeouLs]

58 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

The 8750Hs ckockspeed varies HEAVILY from laptop to laptop. And it only has six cores and less cache so the 2700 would still crush it

I never said the 8750H is superior. Got delusions or something? I merely said the stock 8 core clockspeed is 3.5GHz but most of the time advertised as 4,1GHz

[5x5]

2 minutes ago, ZeouLs said:

I never said the 8750H is superior. Got delusions or something? I merely said the stock 8 core clockspeed is 3.5GHz but most of the time advertised as 4,1GHz

No need to insult people for pointing out things. Don't act childish. Boost behaviour varies from laptop to laptop. The 2700 is easily capable of boosting to 4GJz if the conditions allow.

[Stormseeker9]

5 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

No need to insult people for pointing out things. Don't act childish. Boost behaviour varies from laptop to laptop. The 2700 is easily capable of boosting to 4GJz if the conditions allow.

He isnt being insulting or childish..

[Chiyawa]

15 hours ago, Stormseeker9 said:

for your usage I'd recommend going with a PC instead of laptop. You will get a far more powerful PC building ti yourself, than buying a pre built laptop. Thermals are always an issue in laptops.

I see. However, PC Parts in my area is quite expensive. I have tried comparing the price from my local vendor and the price from PC part pickers, it surprise me I'm paying extra USD 100 to 200, being the RAM, SSD, HDD and motherboard are more expensive in my area (the RAM cost me around USD 450). I live in Malaysia, by the way, and anything from New Egg or other vendors does not ship to Malaysia if not mistaken.

 

RTX2070 is expensive in my area, costing more than USD 550. Right now the only feasible is Gigabyte Radeon RX Vega 64, which sell less than USD 440. Though the price may went up by now.

[Imglidinhere]

20 hours ago, ZeouLs said:

Not sure if they would roll it out with a 3700 in near future. The 2700 is not even out for a year yet.

 

EDIT: I should also mention that iirc the clockspeed with 8 cores is 3.5 GHz while Intel 8750h with 6 Cores puts out 3.9 GHz (Certain on intel, since I have one). You could bump it up though with Ryzen Master

The 2700 annihilates the 8750h, I know I have the latter. Also when at maximum usage across all cores, the 8750H is usually sitting at a TDP of 55w which settles down at 3.3GHz, so... that means it's both slower and boasts fewer cores and threads. For a laptop that actually has good temps and a full 2700 plus a Vega 56, the Helios 500 is a stellar buy. It's a bit outdated, but I wouldn't say it's a bad value for how well it handles the components it has.

[Chiyawa]

4 hours ago, Imglidinhere said:

For a laptop that actually has good temps and a full 2700 plus a Vega 56, the Helios 500 is a stellar buy. It's a bit outdated, but I wouldn't say it's a bad value for how well it handles the components it has.

Interesting. Thanks for the input.