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Sleep mode Or Power Off?

it seems like one of those "choose for your self" type of deals. I think I am going to keep using the Sleep Mode while I sleep UNTIL I get an ssd later this year (when I finally get an ssd, I'll power it off when I go to sleep and only use sleep mode when Im out to lunch or something) Thanks for all of your feedback 

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So I just built the PC I wanted to build for 5 years now, but there are two key purchases that I still need (a high refresh rate 1440p va monitor, and a high capacity sata SSD [at least 1TB])

 

I was wondering weather it's better for my parts to leave them on sleep mode while I sleep for 9 hours, or if I should power it off and just power it back on when I wake up?

 

To my understanding, the sleep feature suspends the last state it was in by using your Ram, does this put any noticeable wear and tear on your RAM? Or is it negligible at most?

 

I would be very glad to hear your opinions and why you think the way you do (hopefully with some evidence for your belief on if i should either reconsider using sleep mode while I go to sleep or not)

 

I heard something along the line of, "if you power it all the way off when you go to sleep and power it back on it accelerates the deterioration of your hard drives, but leaving it on sleep mode deteriorates your RAM quicker"

 

Can someone help put clarity on this argument? (My computer is normally on for most of the day)


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I usually put mine on sleep whenever I go to sleep, or if I'm going out, the only thing I noticed was that my PC would sometimes turn on on its own (screen remains off) because of something called update orchestrator service (which is important afaik)

 

I just let it do it's thing or I shut down my PC if I really need to (or if it keeps turning it back on after I manually put it to sleep again)

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Just use the time you are sleeping for the computer to FOLD!!

 

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Just shut down I'd you are away for longer periods and sleep if you are just running to the store for an hour

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29 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Just shut down I'd you are away for longer periods and sleep if you are just running to the store for an hour

This, but I would add a bit more thing: If you use shutdown & also unplug (or turn off from PSu) instead of sleeping, you will save more money for electricity bill. I don't know how it's for other computers, but for my gaming computer, if I turn it off, it still uses some power until I unplug it. I tested it once by turning off everything in my house except my PC and monitoring my electricity monitoring device. It was still running until I would unplug it.

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52 minutes ago, jason938 said:

This, but I would add a bit more thing: If you use shutdown & also unplug (or turn off from PSu) instead of sleeping, you will save more money for electricity bill. I don't know how it's for other computers, but for my gaming computer, if I turn it off, it still uses some power until I unplug it. I tested it once by turning off everything in my house except my PC and monitoring my electricity monitoring device. It was still running until I would unplug it.

Every PC uses the same amount of power when off and plugged in. It's 1W or so on the +5VSB rail. It's safe to ignore that as it won't amount to more than 1$ over the span of 10 years

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11 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Every PC uses the same amount of power when off and plugged in. It's 1W or so on the +5VSB rail. It's safe to ignore that as it won't amount to more than 1$ over the span of 10 years

I tested mine and my wife's PCs and my wife's PC that doesn't have graphics card and has light specs (i3 cpu & one SSD) & my PC which has graphics card, plus 3 HDD and 1 SSD and my PC was running our electricity monitoring device much faster.

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3 minutes ago, jason938 said:

I tested mine and my wife's PCs and my wife's PC that doesn't have graphics card and has light specs (i3 cpu & one SSD) & my PC which has graphics card, plus 3 HDD and 1 SSD and my PC was running our electricity monitoring device much faster.

Under load yes, but the VSB only powers the boards power on circuitry

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35 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Under load yes, but the VSB only powers the boards power on circuitry

It wasn't under the load. It was turned off, but not unplugged, but electricity meter was still running quite fast, until I unplugged it. I'm just saying, what I saw with my eyes.

Why I did this test is because, my electricity bills are always much bigger than others. My coworkers are getting like 25-50$ in a month and I usually get 100$... I don't know if something is wrong with my PC or not...

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I shut it down whenever i don't need it for an hour or more.

Realy don't care if have to wait 20 seconds for it to fully boot.


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I always POWER OFF/SHUTDOWN my computers. There is no point to put the computer in the sleep for 10+ hours. I will let the computer sleep if I am away from the computer for a while (like less than 2 hrs). All my computers are using SSD and can boot in to Windows from power on within 20s. (some of them are under 10s) So put them in to sleep for faster boot/wake up time is also doesn't make sense too.

 

OTOH, my media server is always on.

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6 hours ago, jason938 said:

This, but I would add a bit more thing: If you use shutdown & also unplug (or turn off from PSu) instead of sleeping, you will save more money for electricity bill. I don't know how it's for other computers, but for my gaming computer, if I turn it off, it still uses some power until I unplug it. I tested it once by turning off everything in my house except my PC and monitoring my electricity monitoring device. It was still running until I would unplug it.

did you turn off the furnace? the refrigerator? there are so many things that use power it is redicilous.


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I completely power down if I'm going to be away for more than an hour, but that is because I am paranoid about power fluctuations negatively impacting my systems that aren't hooked up to my UPS. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP · Best Answer

it seems like one of those "choose for your self" type of deals. I think I am going to keep using the Sleep Mode while I sleep UNTIL I get an ssd later this year (when I finally get an ssd, I'll power it off when I go to sleep and only use sleep mode when Im out to lunch or something) Thanks for all of your feedback 


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I just shut it down.  SSD boot times are so fast that it really doesn't matter unless you're an uptime whore.


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1 minute ago, FezBoy said:

I just shut it down.  SSD boot times are so fast that it really doesn't matter unless you're an uptime whore.

that's what I'll probably do too when I get an SSD

 

What constitutes an "uptime whore"?


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2 minutes ago, Redrooster said:

What constitutes an "uptime whore"?

Someone who brags about their thousands of hours of uptime.  I've never seen one, and pretty much made it up, but knowing enthusiasts it has to exist.

The only situations where uptime really matters are things like servers and folding, both of which are good reasons to keep it running at all times.


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2 minutes ago, FezBoy said:

Someone who brags about their thousands of hours of uptime.  I've never seen one, and pretty much made it up, but knowing enthusiasts it has to exist.

The only situations where uptime really matters are things like servers and folding, both of which are good reasons to keep it running at all times.

ah, makes sense. I'm definitely not one. my uptime is probably around 8 hours a day, maybe 12 on days where I'm not busy


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I leave mine on but I lock it. I never bothered with that until one night I woke up a victim of the Teamviewer hack from 4 years ago. I was laying in bed and all of a sudden I get 3 emails on my phone about accounts and a 2FA push notification from Google. I look over at my desktop and windows are opening and closing with the mouse cursor moving around. I yanked the power from the wall and rebooted my computer with the network cable unplugged. They tried logging into my Steam account, paypal account, and email when they found out that I had 2FA and Steamguard active. I refuse to use Teamviewer now. 

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3 hours ago, lloose said:

I leave mine on but I lock it. I never bothered with that until one night I woke up a victim of the Teamviewer hack from 4 years ago. I was laying in bed and all of a sudden I get 3 emails on my phone about accounts and a 2FA push notification from Google. I look over at my desktop and windows are opening and closing with the mouse cursor moving around. I yanked the power from the wall and rebooted my computer with the network cable unplugged. They tried logging into my Steam account, paypal account, and email when they found out that I had 2FA and Steamguard active. I refuse to use Teamviewer now. 

That's some scary stuff mate


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On 9/11/2019 at 4:58 PM, will4623 said:

did you turn off the furnace? the refrigerator? there are so many things that use power it is redicilous.

I turned off everything except PC.

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