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I don't get why people like/want wirelesscharging?

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11 hours ago, Blademaster91 said:

1. That seems rather backwards, if i need to use the phone its much more convenient to just plug it in, but wireless charging is a feature I'd use on occasion to prevent the charge port from wearing out.  And everyone had the same excuse of "just don't use your phone while charging it" with manufacturers taking away the 3.5mm jack to save a few cents, seems a lot less convenient to me to not be able to use the device whenever I'd like.

2. Even mid range phones come with 10-15w fast chargers nowadays, wireless charging heats up the battery and is much less efficient. Extra heat on the battery is an issue especially since manufacturers insist on gluing phones shut for "water resistance" instead of replaceable batteries.

3. Wireless charging isn't anything new, and its still worse than plugging it into the wall.

 

1. It doesn't make sense to implement wireless chargers everywhere from a cost standpoint unless all phones have wireless charging.

2. I have no problem plugging my phone in if I need to in the car although I can usually get through a whole day without charging my phone.

3. It only takes a few seconds to unplug a phone and grab a cable, or just keep an extra one in the car.

4. Unless battery tech significantly improves, constantly setting down your phone to charge is terrible for battery health.

1. Again, charging overnight, or with the speeds wireless charging is getting to, not touching your phone for a bit shouldn't be an issue.

2. Yes, but phones are coming with 25w - 30w wireless charging, with 40w wireless charging in the works. Also the heating isn't as much of an issue anymore either, with something like 98% efficiency on the latest wireless charging spec.

3. Not really. Not if you have a decent phone and pad.

 

1. The cost isn't on you, why does it matter? It's not like a single company is shelling out the money for all the access points. That's a nonsensical argument.

3. It only takes seconds to throw it on a charging pad. What's your point? Again, moot.

4. It's not that bad, and there are advances. Did you know that it's full cycles that affect a lithium battery, and not how many times you plug in the charger?


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Mine is on a cradle type stand to the right of my main monitor.

Gives me the ability to read things quickly and determine if I even need to touch the phone.

The fact that it just so happens to be charging while doing this is nice.

It'd be annoying to have to apply pressure to remove the phone if it was plugged in.


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I have two charging pads, one at home and one at work. I come home and put my phone on my desk charger. I go to work and put my phone on my desk charger. Its an S9 so battery life isn't great, keeping it topped up is pretty important. Plus the pads support wireless fast charging. My system works well and is super convenient, I can pick up my phone and set it down without plugging or unplugging it. 

 

Similar arguments for corded vs cordless headphones. Cordless is just nicer for everyday use 

 

also i just thought of this, but way less strain on the usb-c connector as well. Mine is still brand new looking 


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Imagine a world where you sit down at your desk and when you set down your phone to use your computer and when you leave it's just magically more charged. Or when you go to bed and it's pitch black and you don't want to wake up with a dead battery in your phone and you just set it on the nightstand wake up and it's charged. Sure I could plug in my phone to my quick charger when i wake up and have 70% battery by the time I get out of the shower but, still. Sure these are very first world problems but, it would be nice to have the option. I use my phone alot. Battery technology still isn't very great in smartphones and adding a bit of an extra boost while you're just sitting down is a good thing no?  That way you don't even need to think about charging your phone. 

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On 9/7/2019 at 7:59 PM, Altruist said:

Just to begin im an anti-wireless charging guy or anything i just see why it liked so much, and heres why.

 

1. it's harder to use the phone while it's charging

2. it charger MUCH slower then current charging tech (samsung, huawei, oppo or even usb pd)

3. it's not as efficient as wired charging (energy loss)

 

Guys change my mind, tell me the advantages of wireless charging and why you think its good :D

 

I totally agree it's really unnecessary, electroboom explained how un-efficient it is and slow, I just prefer a cable, When it gets as efficient and fast as wired then i might use it at home on my setup. I'm pretty concious about my house power consumption as i have a few really high power draw amplifiers. 

 


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On 9/7/2019 at 11:59 AM, Altruist said:

1. it's harder to use the phone while it's charging

So plug it in if you need to use it while charging.

 

On 9/7/2019 at 11:59 AM, Altruist said:

2. it charger MUCH slower then current charging tech (samsung, huawei, oppo or even usb pd)

So plug it in if you are in a hurry.

 

On 9/7/2019 at 11:59 AM, Altruist said:

3. it's not as efficient as wired charging (energy loss)

No reasonable person cares about the efficiency difference.

 

The fact of the matter is wireless charging is much more convenient. Period. It has some disadvantages as well but those are easily circumvented by using wired charging when appropriate.

 

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11 hours ago, Zyzzyan said:

Like the loss of the head phone jack, it could lead to better waterproofing.  That's a plus.

This is a myth caused, as far as I can tell, by people having a short memory.  There were phones with headphone jacks and also IP 68 water ratings, and there are phones with no jack that still aren't well insulated.  Just like removable batteries, water proofing is not an excuse.

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25 minutes ago, Joelw2003 said:

15w wireless charger on s10+, same speed.

What's the wattage of the charger that drives it?  Since you lose wattage from the charger to the transfer between the pad and phone.  You still have to feed in something like 15W of charging to get 10W of wireless charge to the phone itself.

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On 9/8/2019 at 7:43 PM, The_Prycer said:

In the future however, wireless charging will do the same to USB-C (or whatever type we're using by then) ports that Apple did to the 3.5mm jack. It will allow one fewer point of entry for dust, water, and other damaging entities to get to the internal components of the device. Imagine a phone that requires a Bluetooth headset to be able to talk on and can only charge wirelessly. You and I might think that's a dumbass idea (and it is), but to hardware manufacturers, this is now an electronic device with no obvious entry points on it for water or dust to stroll on in and cause damage. Your phone is now totally waterproof straight from the factory, no case required.

Counter argument: I often use my phone while it's charging. That is fairly hard when it has to be connected to some weird pad. How'd I do that?

 

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Wireless charging is cool. It's like magic. Plop your phone onto some weird thing and somehow it's charging. That being said, I've never had a phone that could charge wirelessly, and, seeing as I generally either charge my phone at night, or while I'm using it, it does not really have a place in my life. I much prefer a 2 or 3 meter cable, you can go everywhere in my room with that. :D


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how else am I going to put a charger under my desk?


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On 9/7/2019 at 3:07 PM, Drak3 said:

It's a convenience thing. The people that like it, like it because you literally need to set the phone down and that's it.

Apparently plugging charging table is too much work. 


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I've had a bunch of Qi chargers over the years that I got for cheap. 

I like being able to set my phone down and forget it. Beyond that some set ups, such as the wireless charging stand for the pixel 3, are just plane nice to use. At some level your phone becomes a grab and go Google Assistant device. 

I will agree that it can be annoying to fiddle with the wireless-charger at times. This is a function of the unit and the phone and newer/better devices tend to be better than what I've been using for the last 5 years.

 

17 minutes ago, wasab said:

Apparently plugging charging table is too much work. 

Some people have high incomes and want to put that money to use to make their lives more pleasurable. Others, like my mother, have bone cancer and any little thing that can given them ease and comfort make a difference. 

On the lower end, chargers can be had for as low as $10 so...


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8 minutes ago, comander said:

I've had a bunch of Qi chargers over the years that I got for cheap. 

I like being able to set my phone down and forget it. Beyond that some set ups, such as the wireless charging stand for the pixel 3, are just plane nice to use. At some level your phone becomes a grab and go Google Assistant device. 

I will agree that it can be annoying to fiddle with the cord at times. 

 

Some people have high incomes and want to put that money to use to make their lives more pleasurable. Others, like my mother, have bone cancer and any little thing that can given them ease and comfort make a difference. 

On the lower end, chargers can be had for as low as $10 so...

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7 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

This is a myth caused, as far as I can tell, by people having a short memory.  There were phones with headphone jacks and also IP 68 water ratings, and there are phones with no jack that still aren't well insulated.  Just like removable batteries, water proofing is not an excuse.

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12 hours ago, LogicWeasel said:

What's the wattage of the charger that drives it?  Since you lose wattage from the charger to the transfer between the pad and phone.  You still have to feed in something like 15W of charging to get 10W of wireless charge to the phone itself.

18w I believe

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I also agree, some things are just better off the way they where designed and created. The whole lets go smaller and wireless thing is not my cup of tea and I think many would agree

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13 hours ago, TomvanWijnen said:

Counter argument: I often use my phone while it's charging. That is fairly hard when it has to be connected to some weird pad. How'd I do that?

 

I have a theory that phone cases of the future will have wireless charging capabilities so you'd just plug your battery case in to something instead of your phone. 

 

To further my tinfoil hat theories, the cases of the future might also feature Bluetooth microphones and Speakers to remove points of ingress from your mobile internet device that you sometimes call people on.

 


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Wireless charging works quite quickly actually. 

maybe not as fast as USB-C but it charges faster than my old smartphones did even when using wireless charging. 

Also wireless charging saves my USB-C port from wear and tear , no needing to replace cords ect. 

I can still use USB-C charging if needed and the ports are like new and no chance of it breaking off in the phone etc. 

 

This post is odd to me , its a good feature i use it for the same kind of reasons i used the magnetic charging on my Xperia Z1 when i had that.. except this wireless charging is far far far faster than the magnetic pad charging the Xperia Z1 had. 


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16 hours ago, comander said:

On the lower end, chargers can be had for as low as $10 so...

that is about the price of 2 lightning cables! /s


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People keep saying that its more convenient but i dont get it(well i do exept....), isn't it MORE convenient for it to actually be fully charged when you need it? Wireless charging is just slower and therefore may not be full when needed.

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On 9/7/2019 at 2:59 PM, Altruist said:

Just to begin im an anti-wireless charging guy or anything i just see why it liked so much, and heres why.

 

1. it's harder to use the phone while it's charging

2. it charger MUCH slower then current charging tech (samsung, huawei, oppo or even usb pd)

3. it's not as efficient as wired charging (energy loss)

 

Guys change my mind, tell me the advantages of wireless charging and why you think its good :D

 

I agree. My wife loves them, but I simply don't get how it's more 'convenient' It's slower and a couple of times I was almost screwed when my phone (that was supposed to be charging wirelessly) died and my alarm never went off to wake me up for work.

 

How difficult is it to plug in a charging cable? 

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1 hour ago, steelo said:

How difficult is it to plug in a charging cable? 

Apparently too unconvenient


I may be wrong.

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