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Intel next gen Xeon Scalable will use new sockets

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1 minute ago, VegetableStu said:

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2 hours ago, VegetableStu said:

not sure how PCIe4 would handle with a riser like that o_o (although being a hard card might have its merits along the transmission length)

A designed-for solution like this would be at significant advantage over a generic extender. Anything that could affect signal integrity can be allowed for. In the generic extender scenario, it is plug and pray.


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Intel, who?


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Think I may have something to go along with this post. Pics are of an unknown Intel processor with a new socket type (Cascade Lake processor in pics for comparison). The new processor is slightly bigger and beefier with a new IHS that is taller than the CLX processors. 

 

If anyone can identify this processor please let me know!

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21 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

Meanwhile, the company does not disclose why Intel needed two separate 4189-pin sockets.

Because Intel has decided to wait until after Cooper lake gets crushed before learning their lessons.

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11 hours ago, betchaLOST said:

If anyone can identify this processor please let me know!

There's many SKUs that could be, there isn't enough information to narrow it down without putting it in a system and getting more details like number of cores and cache sizes, but then you'd just know what it is so ?‍♂️

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Posted · Original PosterOP

In them cpu pics, the notches are in different locations. 

One of them is from now 3467, the other is the new cascade lake or ice lake 4189.


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On 9/3/2019 at 1:31 PM, williamcll said:

What is the use of PCIE4 in enterprise use?

The same as every bandwidth increase, it just allows you to cram more and faster stuff in the same package. Not everyone is going to use it but for those who do it's an important upgrade.

19 hours ago, rcmaehl said:

I mean we already have M.2 Slots on the otherside of ITX boards... why not other components. 

Why not make a 15cm² cpu with memory and pcie slots directly on the heatspreader?

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12 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Why not make a 15cm² cpu with memory and pcie slots directly on the heatspreader?

Imagine the decrease in latency this would provide though. ?


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1 minute ago, rcmaehl said:

Imagine the decrease in latency this would provide though. ?

Exactly!


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19 hours ago, VegetableStu said:

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not sure how PCIe4 would handle with a riser like that o_o (although being a hard card might have its merits along the transmission length)

Wait...that's a real thing?

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19 hours ago, rcmaehl said:

I mean we already have M.2 Slots on the otherside of ITX boards... why not other components. 

They can start with putting the memory there on its side or something, they take quite a bit of space that is close to the socket.


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4 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

it's an old functional concept o_o they designed it like those enthusiast audio decks

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3076832/meet-avalon-asuss-audacious-tightly-integrated-vision-for-the-future-of-diy-pcs.html

That'S pretty slick actually. I'd have bought one...


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14 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

Wait...that's a real thing?

(head esplodes)

yes it's real, the i/o is also modular, that can be swapped out. But the whole thing is a concept.


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Those "new" pins/pads look fake.

 

Intel: Wait, what features can we add?

Engineer: I've nothing, sorry, nope, nada.

Intel: But then what shall we add as a reason to make more pins?

Engineer: Oh, more pins? I can put a few on there, make some room, do we even need to connect them up to anything?

Intel: Need to connect them up? Great idea! Just increase the size, make a new socket, and plop the old chips in the middle... no one will know, right?

[Where have we seen that done before. ;) ]

 

 

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On 9/3/2019 at 8:13 AM, SlimyPython said:

Weon... Ik thats a spelling mistake but it just sounds funny

 

Derpy Xeon = Weon

im not trying to be mean.

Haha was a spelling mistake but ended up sounding funny ?

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On 9/3/2019 at 2:13 AM, SlimyPython said:

Weon... Ik thats a spelling mistake but it just sounds funny

 

Derpy Xeon = Weon

im not trying to be mean.

Being Chilean makes the whole thing even funnier

 

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On 9/3/2019 at 12:23 AM, leadeater said:

I mean this isn't unexpected, changing socket is par for the course when it comes to new Xeon product lineups. At best you get a generation then a refresh then yay new socket and chipset.

Eh hem Apollo 70s lol


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On 9/3/2019 at 9:46 AM, rcmaehl said:

Threadripper ITX when?
 

 

Ive actually done a decent amount of research on the idea of TR4 ITX. In the standard ITX form factor it is more or less impossible. Let me clarify by saying it is possible in the sense than the socket is physically smaller than the ITX formfactor, but TR4 is such a massive socket that serious concessions would have to be made. VRM's would need to be stacked vertically in an add-in card (this isn't unheard of. Asus did this a while back), and you would only have room for 4 SO-DIMM slots unless you put some on the back of the board (also not new in the desktop space, and basically expected in laptops).

 

So, nothing insurmountable, the R&D just doesn't seem to be worth it to cram so much VRM performance and so much extra complexity in to a motherboard literally 10 people would buy.

 

Now, if we include the seemingly returning DTX form factor of motherboard things become much easier and honestly I see no reason as to why it wouldn't work. DTX, for the unitiated, is just ITX but the width of a standard ATX board. Mini DTX is also a thing, but AFAIK that is just ITX with 2 PCI-E slots. 

 

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On 9/3/2019 at 4:08 AM, Grand Admiral Thrawn said:

Will this fit into this new socket?

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That's a cookie not a chip.  *Sarcastic insult removed*

 

Edit:

I made a comment that expressed an opinion that could be seen as insulting though that wasn't the intent.  

 

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