5700 xt can someone explain these clocks pls?

[TOPET3]

Hi, I recently bought a sapphire pulse 5700 xt, after waiting a lot, coming from a gtx 1060 6gb. Me questions are:

 

Why the core clock is so low when I am playing some low requirement games at 144fps (like paladins, i know...) and makes the game stutter?

I am talking like 200MHz. When the 1060 was on max turbo (1886Mhz) always when gaming and causing 0 stutter or flickering and with better and stable frametimes. Shame.

Or maybe has nothing to do with the low clock, any tip?

 

And on the other hand the memory clock is always max out, even at idle. If I go from 144Hz on monitor setting to 60Hz, memory clocks downclocks normally. Is this something to worry?

 

Edited September 2, 2019 by TOPET3
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[Princess Luna]

Did you DDU in safe mode before changing GPUs?

[TOPET3]

Yes I did use DDU first to install drivers, I touch wattman settings and the gpu temps went crazy. I reinstall and never touch wattman again...

By the way Control works fine clock max out, 60fps on 2k (if you quit afterburner), but BOTW on cemu is unplayable, like 0-2fps 1080p, when i was cap at 48fps 1440p. :´(

[xAcid9]

21 minutes ago, TOPET3 said:

like paladins

The game is not intensive enough, try force some extra eye candy from Radeon setting like forced 8x MSAA or something. 

22 minutes ago, TOPET3 said:

If I go from 144Hz on monitor setting to 60Hz, memory clocks downclocks normally. Is this something to worry?

Yeah that's normal for AMD card, try use 120hz instead.

[5x5]

15 minutes ago, TOPET3 said:

Yes I did use DDU first to install drivers, I touch wattman settings and the gpu temps went crazy. I reinstall and never touch wattman again...

By the way Control works fine clock max out, 60fps on 2k (if you quit afterburner), but BOTW on cemu is unplayable, like 0-2fps 1080p, when i was cap at 48fps 1440p. :´(

Breath of the Wild is not a PC game.cant really base anything on it.

Anyhow, set your pc to high performance and use Radeon settings to make paladins slightly more demanding..the game is so light that your system is likely entering a low power state cause the load is too low.

[TOPET3]

4 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

The game is not intensive enough, try force some extra eye candy from Radeon setting like forced 8x MSAA or something. 

I know I tried upscaling resolution and same outcome. But that is no excuse for a 420€ card to perform worst than an almost 3 years old 1060, no?

[GoldenLag]

16 minutes ago, TOPET3 said:

BOTW on cemu is unplayable, like 0-2fps 1080p, when i was cap at 48fps 1440p. :´(

you will have to find the right packs to get Cemu to run BOTW. keep in mind your old install of BOTW is made for Nvidia GPUs and not AMD ones. 

 

havent kept up with the GCN optimizations in a while, might take a look at some point. 

[GoldenLag]

7 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

The game is not intensive enough, try force some extra eye candy from Radeon setting like forced 8x MSAA or something. 

note, this setting can be applied on a per game basis. just in case OP didnt know. 

[TOPET3]

The game was already max out when using old gpu. Only thing that was missing was 200% scale resolution and did nothing. I will try to tinker more with radeon profile and put some youtube videos on background .

I know is a shitty game but i play a lot, and with that and all the Alt+Tab crashes and the freesync and monitoring sw flickering idk im thinking of returning it...

[5x5]

10 minutes ago, TOPET3 said:

I know I tried upscaling resolution and same outcome. But that is no excuse for a 420€ card to perform worst than an almost 3 years old 1060, no?

Not really. Same thing would happen with a 2070 Super when running very light software. The card will down lock to save power

[5x5]

1 minute ago, TOPET3 said:

The game was already max out when using old gpu. Only thing that was missing was 200% scale resolution and did nothing. I will try to tinker more with radeon profile and put some youtube videos on background .

I know is a shitty game but i play a lot, and with that and all the Alt+Tab crashes and the freesync and monitoring sw flickering idk im thinking of returning it...

What are your other specs? Flickering and crashing isn't really normal

[xAcid9]

8 minutes ago, TOPET3 said:

I know I tried upscaling resolution and same outcome. But that is no excuse for a 420€ card to perform worst than an almost 3 years old 1060, no?

Upscaling doesn't increase graphic load.

Try this, in Radeon Setting create a profile for Paladin then set Anti Aliasing Mode to Override and AA Method to Supersampling or Multisampling. 

 

Or turn on VSR and play the game on 4K. 

Or last resort, download GPU-Z and turn on Render test while playing Warframe. 

16 minutes ago, TOPET3 said:

I know is a shitty game

I loved Paladin. I had similar problem playing Paladin with my 980 Ti.

[TOPET3]

 

13 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Not really. Same thing would happen with a 2070 Super when running very light software. The card will down lock to save power

Are you telling me that I have to expect high and unstable frametimes from a 5700xt, even a 2070super, than a 1060? Really?

 

16 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

What are your other specs? Flickering and crashing isn't really normal

I know never happen to me, specs are: ryzen 5 1600 3.7GHz, 16GB DDR4 3200MHz, m.2 nvem, 2k 144Hz msi optix.

1060 was working perfectly no alt+tab crashes, stable frametimes. Never had a proper gaming ati gpu and i was willing to let nvidia but this is unappealing.

[5x5]

Are you using beta drivers? Install tha latest whal onea

[TOPET3]

3 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Upscaling doesn't increase graphic load.

Try this, in Radeon Setting create a profile for Paladin then set Anti Aliasing Mode to Override and AA Method to Supersampling or Multisampling. 

 

Or turn on VSR and play the game on 4K. 

Or last resort, download GPU-Z and turn on Render test while playing Warframe. 

I loved Paladin. I had similar problem playing Paladin with my 980 Ti.

Was trying that, and cause the launcher dont detect profile, press F11 to minimize and change global settings and pc crash (twice right now) i had to press reset button.

[TOPET3]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

Are you using beta drivers? Install tha latest whal onea

19.8.2 Im pressing update about all the time...

[5x5]

9 minutes ago, TOPET3 said:

19.8.2 Im pressing update about all the time...

Try last month's 18 drivers. You are currently running beta drivers...

[xAcid9]

28 minutes ago, TOPET3 said:

Was trying that, and cause the launcher dont detect profile, press F11 to minimize and change global settings and pc crash (twice right now) i had to press reset button.

You need to manually point the game exe, not launcher.

[TOPET3]

54 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Try last month's 18 drivers. You are currently running beta drivers...

Ok I am gonna try 18.12.3 but the one that amd is pushing on their page is the 19. 

36 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

You need to manually point the game exe, not launcher.

Yea I tried launcher, and 64b binari but global seems to override the settings... 

 

 

 

I tried version 18 but 'Installer cannot properly identify the AMD graphics hardware'

[BTGbullseye]

Version 18 is not for the 5700 series... You have to use 19.

 

You're probably going to need to go into wattman again, and do a few manual tweaks, because it should never drop below 800MHz.

[TOPET3]

I been tinkering with wattman and saw the curve min value is 800Mhz. But mine is 5-20MHz. And I put some 8k video but keeps the same and video stutter a lot. Whatever i do on wattman dont applies. You can see a clock of 16 and a peak of 227 during the video.

[Fisky]

im haveing the same problems with my reference msi 5700 xt