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why my old moms PC is detecting SSD as IDE drive?

18 minutes ago, Romano said:

I bought her an SSD and for some reason it is showing up as IDE drive even when its connected to a SATA portspacer.png

 

the Mobo model is: g31m-es2l it should support sata 3

 

 

SATA III my arse. SATA II (3Gb/s) very likely. It's not unusual at all to get those two confused given that SATA II is 3Gb/s, but SATA III on a G31M board seems...unlikely. That board has an IDE port, and boards with IDE typically default to selecting IDE storage unless you manually change it to AHCI, which is probably "Enhanced" in your case. Changing it to Enhanced might speed things up, but even if it does you'd have to do a full wipe and reinstall of Windows from the ground up, and then you have to ask yourself to what end? If your mom's already happy with the PC and isn't complaining about it taking forever to boot--and that's about the only thing an SSD in a SATA II port will make a noticeable difference with--you'd be doing more harm than good by nuking her system in pursuit of shaving a few seconds off the boot time.

 

 

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I bought her an SSD and for some reason it is showing up as IDE drive even when its connected to a SATA portspacer.png

 

the Mobo model is: g31m-es2l it should support sata 3

 

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4 minutes ago, Romano said:

 

Has to be some setting in the bios, you could try updating the bios maybe, but that board is pretty ancient.


Is it running windows 7? make sure that TRIM is enabled for the SSD to increase it's life span.


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3 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Has to be some setting in the bios, you could try updating the bios maybe, but that board is pretty ancient.


Is it running windows 7? make sure that TRIM is enabled for the SSD to increase it's life span.

she was running W7 but I installed W10 its pretty snappy for what she does, only youtube and bank transactions


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"On-Chip SATA Mode: [Auto]"

Change that to AHCI. You will probably need to reinstall windows, or find a tutorial on how to enable the AHCI driver on a windows installed, installed on IDE mod.

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3 minutes ago, Romano said:

she was running W7 but I installed W10 its pretty snappy for what she does, only youtube and bank transactions, how do you enable TRIM?

It doesn't matter if it's windows 10 now, just google it for win7 if it ever comes up.

If it's already fast enough I wouldn't really bother trying to "fix" it then.

 

What's the speed from Crystal Disk Mark?


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Could be that the board is running the SATA ports in IDE mode, seeing as the BIOS says the on-chip SATA mode is just auto.

 

If that's actually the case you'd need to reinstall windows though, since that's really just the easiest way around it.

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Just now, Comic_Sans_MS said:

"On-Chip SATA Mode: [Auto]"

Change that to AHCI. You will probably need to reinstall windows, or find a tutorial on how to enable the AHCI driver on a windows installed, installed on IDE mod.

there's no AHCI option, just auto, combined, enhanced and disabled, I tried all options which end into BSO when booting


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Just now, flibberdipper said:

Could be that the board is running the SATA ports in IDE mode, seeing as the BIOS says the on-chip SATA mode is just auto.

 

If that's actually the case you'd need to reinstall windows though, since that's really just the easiest way around it.

I don't have a problem to reinstall windows, but if I do it right now it will stay in IDE, how do I change it to Sata? this motherboard doesn't seem to have the option in the Bios to change that


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I believe early SATA chipsets just emulated IDE, so AHCI is probably not an option.


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6 minutes ago, Romano said:

I don't have a problem to reinstall windows, but if I do it right now it will stay in IDE, how do I change it to Sata? this motherboard doesn't seem to have the option in the Bios to change that

What does the SSD score in Crystal Disk Mark? If it's already fast I'd just leave it alone.


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I tried these options but the result is BSO when the Windows booting screen is loading

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18 minutes ago, Romano said:

I bought her an SSD and for some reason it is showing up as IDE drive even when its connected to a SATA portspacer.png

 

the Mobo model is: g31m-es2l it should support sata 3

 

 

SATA III my arse. SATA II (3Gb/s) very likely. It's not unusual at all to get those two confused given that SATA II is 3Gb/s, but SATA III on a G31M board seems...unlikely. That board has an IDE port, and boards with IDE typically default to selecting IDE storage unless you manually change it to AHCI, which is probably "Enhanced" in your case. Changing it to Enhanced might speed things up, but even if it does you'd have to do a full wipe and reinstall of Windows from the ground up, and then you have to ask yourself to what end? If your mom's already happy with the PC and isn't complaining about it taking forever to boot--and that's about the only thing an SSD in a SATA II port will make a noticeable difference with--you'd be doing more harm than good by nuking her system in pursuit of shaving a few seconds off the boot time.

 

 


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9 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

What does the SSD score in Crystal Disk Mark? If it's already fast I'd just leave it alone.

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I checked the reviews and their numbers seem to be way higher than mine

Amazon is merging the M.2 with SATA 3 reviews

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1 minute ago, Romano said:

 

Those speeds seem perfectly fine given that it's a really old motherboard.

It's still faster than a hard drive would be.


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6 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

SATA III my arse. SATA II (3Gb/s) very likely. It's not unusual at all to get those two confused given that SATA II is 3Gb/s, but SATA III on a G31M board seems...unlikely. That board has an IDE port, and boards with IDE typically default to selecting IDE storage unless you manually change it to AHCI, which is probably "Enhanced" in your case. Changing it to Enhanced might speed things up, but even if it does you'd have to do a full wipe and reinstall of Windows from the ground up, and then you have to ask yourself to what end? If your mom's already happy with the PC and isn't complaining about it taking forever to boot--and that's about the only thing an SSD in a SATA II port will make a noticeable difference with--you'd be doing more harm than good by nuking her system in pursuit of shaving a few seconds off the boot time.

 

 

why? because GOTTAGOFAST

 

but you might be right, her monitor is pretty slow to turn on, I think the system boots faster than the monitor but that IDE thing was making me think if its a bottleneck


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37 minutes ago, Romano said:

I don't have a problem to reinstall windows, but if I do it right now it will stay in IDE, how do I change it to Sata? this motherboard doesn't seem to have the option in the Bios to change that

Should be the enhanced setting in the on-chip SATA settings to force AHCI. Though it sure looks like it's running in AHCI as it is considering the speeds you're getting are well above what IDE's spec was theoretically capable of.

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it supports sata 3gb/s, which is Sata revision II. 

 

my main system is from a similar era, and mine does this too:

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so it's either Windows not detecting something or a setting in thew bios that's limiiting it to ata speeds, but you can check that. do a speed test and if it gets 150mb/s or higher it's running on sata. if it's 133 or lower it's emulating IDE. 


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Of course you get BSOD when enabling AHCI - this is the fix: https://troubleshooter.xyz/wiki/how-to-enable-ahci-mode-in-windows-10/#Method_2_Enable_AHCI_Mode_via_CMD

I would use method 2: CMD


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5 hours ago, DoctorNick said:

Of course you get BSOD when enabling AHCI - this is the fix: https://troubleshooter.xyz/wiki/how-to-enable-ahci-mode-in-windows-10/#Method_2_Enable_AHCI_Mode_via_CMD

I would use method 2: CMD

Interesting. Do you know if Method 2 requires to reinstall Windows?


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19 hours ago, Romano said:

Interesting. Do you know if Method 2 requires to reinstall Windows?

It doesn't.. Non of the methods do.. Its the same thing just in different places. But you need to do it in the right order. I would recommend enabling ahci to get trim working.


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