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killyx

Hello there!

Something very weird is happening to me, here's the story : my friend and I wanted to make a 9900k direct die config onto the Ghost S1 (yes it's dumb), so we have some hardware in common : 9900k direct die (with same liquid metal and same direct die kit), stock bios settings, Big Shuriken 3 + NF-A12x15, Louqe Ghost S1.

 

Where it gets weird is our first boot : my friend has 31°C idle, I have 45°C ; after 30 min of P95 (derbauer recommended settings) he got 75°C max, and for 3 hours, he's in low 90°C, my cpu throttled over 100°C after just 3 seconds of test.

 

I re-pasted my liquid metal 2 times, with a little bit more, and then a little bit less, and my result is that it's getting worst every re-paste I make.

I checked and the die is making a solid contact with the cooler, I even tried different spacers for the bracket since Rockit Cool Direct Die Kit has alternative one for lowering the height of the cooler.

 

I even tried to stop the CPU fan when idle for 20 seconds, and the temps are getting the exact same (45°C), is that normal? 20 sec is not enough to make a difference?


In fact I have the exact same problem has Jayztwocent in his last video of watercooling a ghost S1.

 

SO...What am I doing wrong? Is it possible that silicon lottery affect temps even at stock speed? Motherboard can affect that much temps?

 

Here's some photos of my build :

First application of LM before putting the cooler

After my first re-paste with little bit more liquid metal (after removed the cooler so I can check the "spread")

 

Thanks for any answers!

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3 minutes ago, killyx said:

Hello there!

Something very weird is happening to me, here's the story : my friend and I wanted to make a 9900k direct die config onto the Ghost S1 (yes it's dumb), so we have some hardware in common : 9900k direct die (with same liquid metal and same direct die kit), stock bios settings, Big Shuriken 3 + NF-A12x15, Louqe Ghost S1.

 

Where it gets weird is our first boot : my friend has 31°C idle, I have 45°C ; after 30 min of P95 (derbauer recommended settings) he got 75°C max, and for 3 hours, he's in low 90°C, my cpu throttled over 100°C after just 3 seconds of test.

 

I re-pasted my liquid metal 2 times, with a little bit more, and then a little bit less, and my result is that it's getting worst every re-paste I make.

I checked and the die is making a solid contact with the cooler, I even tried different spacers for the bracket since Rockit Cool Direct Die Kit has alternative one for lowering the height of the cooler.

 

I even tried to stop the CPU fan when idle for 20 seconds, and the temps are getting the exact same (45°C), is that normal? 20 sec is not enough to make a difference?

 

SO...What am I doing wrong? Is it possible that silicon lottery affect temps even at stock speed? Motherboard can affect that much temps?

 

Here's some photos of my build :

First application of LM before putting the cooler

After my first re-paste with little bit more liquid metal (after removed the cooler so I can check the "spread")

 

Thanks for any answers!

No proper contact or not enough contact.

Main PC:

CPU: Intel Core i9 13900KS SP 116 (124P-102E) (6.1Ghz P-Cores 4.8Ghz E-cores) MC SP 88

CPU Voltage: LLC8 1.525V (real voltage 1.425V + - Temps 85-90 P-Cores, 70-73 E-cores)

Cooled by: Supercool Direct Die 14th gen full nickel

Motherboard: Z790 ASUS Maximus Apex Encore

RAM: GSkill TridentZ 2x24GB DDR5 8600Mhz CL38 (OC from 8000Mhz CL40)

GPU: RTX MSI 4090 Suprim X with EKWB waterblock

Case: My own case fabricated out of aluminium and wood

Storage: 4x 2TB Sarbent Rocket Plus Gen 4.0 NVMe, 1x External 2TB Seagate Barracuda (Backup)

WiFi: BE202 WiFi 7 Tri-Band card module

PSU: Corsair AX1600i with custom black and red cables with 2x Corsair 5V+ Load Balancer

Display: Samsung Oddysey G9 240Hz Ver. 5120x1440 with G-Sync and Freesync Premium Pro 1008 Firmware Ver, and 1x Electriq USB C 1080p 15'8 inch IPS portable display for temperature and stats, MSI 23'8 144Hz G-Sync

Fan Controllers:  6x AquaComputer Octo with 5 temperature sensors

Cooling: Three Custom Loops:

1st Loop: 5x 480mm XE CoolStream radiators with 1x Revo D5 RGB pump and 1x Rajintek Antila D5 Evo RGB pump for GPU only cooling with 2x Koolance QDC3, red coolant

2nd Loop: 5x 480mm XE CoolStream radiators with 1x Revo D5 RGB pump and 1x Rajintek Antila D5 Evo RGB pump for CPU only cooling with 2x Koolance QDC3, purple coolant

3rd Loop: 1x 240mm PE CoolStream radiator with 1x EKWB Revo D5 pump (RAM ONLY)

Total: 5x pumps and 13x radiators 50x 3000RPM Noctua Industrial fans

Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow V3 RGB - Green switches

Sound: Logitech Z680 5.1 THX Certified 505W Speakers

Mouse: Razer Basilisk Ultimate Wireless with charging dock

Piano: Yamaha P155

Phone: Oppo Find X5 Pro

Camera: Logitech Brio Pro 4K

VR: Oculus Rift S

External SSD: 256GB Overclocking OS

LaptopMSI Titan GT77HX V13RTX 4090 175W, i9 13980HX OC: P-Cores 5.8Ghz 3 cores and 5.2Ghz 5 cores and E-Cores 4.3Ghz, 192GB of RAM @5600Mhz @3600 (chipset limit),

12TB (3x4TB) of NVMe, 17'3 inch 4K 144Hz MiniLED screen, 4x 17'3 ASUS portable USB-C Monitors 240Hz, Creative Sound Blaster G6 Sound Card, Portable 16TB NVMe in TB4 enclosures (8x2TB), Razer Basilisk Ultimate Wireless with charging dock gaming mouse, Keychron K3 gaming keyboard with blue switches low profile, Logitech Brio 4K Webcam.

Hand held: ROG Ally with XG Mobile RTX 3080 with Keychron K3 low profile keyboard (Blue Switches) and Razer Hyperspeed V3 mouse and 4TB NVMe upgrade (WDBlack SN850X), with 100W 20000Mah power bank and portable monitor ROG XG17AHP 17'3 inch 240Hz with built in battery, and 518Wh Power station for Camping.

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4 minutes ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

No proper contact or not enough contact.

I really checked carefully, and even changed the spacer to reduce height of the cooler, I'm sure it make proper contact.. I have tried to change his position 3 times and nothing changes. And my friends didn't even use the spacers provided with the kit, he just used the stock one;

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2 minutes ago, killyx said:

I really checked carefully, and even changed the spacer to reduce height of the cooler, I'm sure it make proper contact.. I have tried to change his position 3 times and nothing changes. And my friends didn't even use the spacers provided with the kit, he just used the stock one;

More liquid metal? / check if same is happening with thermal paste?

Main PC:

CPU: Intel Core i9 13900KS SP 116 (124P-102E) (6.1Ghz P-Cores 4.8Ghz E-cores) MC SP 88

CPU Voltage: LLC8 1.525V (real voltage 1.425V + - Temps 85-90 P-Cores, 70-73 E-cores)

Cooled by: Supercool Direct Die 14th gen full nickel

Motherboard: Z790 ASUS Maximus Apex Encore

RAM: GSkill TridentZ 2x24GB DDR5 8600Mhz CL38 (OC from 8000Mhz CL40)

GPU: RTX MSI 4090 Suprim X with EKWB waterblock

Case: My own case fabricated out of aluminium and wood

Storage: 4x 2TB Sarbent Rocket Plus Gen 4.0 NVMe, 1x External 2TB Seagate Barracuda (Backup)

WiFi: BE202 WiFi 7 Tri-Band card module

PSU: Corsair AX1600i with custom black and red cables with 2x Corsair 5V+ Load Balancer

Display: Samsung Oddysey G9 240Hz Ver. 5120x1440 with G-Sync and Freesync Premium Pro 1008 Firmware Ver, and 1x Electriq USB C 1080p 15'8 inch IPS portable display for temperature and stats, MSI 23'8 144Hz G-Sync

Fan Controllers:  6x AquaComputer Octo with 5 temperature sensors

Cooling: Three Custom Loops:

1st Loop: 5x 480mm XE CoolStream radiators with 1x Revo D5 RGB pump and 1x Rajintek Antila D5 Evo RGB pump for GPU only cooling with 2x Koolance QDC3, red coolant

2nd Loop: 5x 480mm XE CoolStream radiators with 1x Revo D5 RGB pump and 1x Rajintek Antila D5 Evo RGB pump for CPU only cooling with 2x Koolance QDC3, purple coolant

3rd Loop: 1x 240mm PE CoolStream radiator with 1x EKWB Revo D5 pump (RAM ONLY)

Total: 5x pumps and 13x radiators 50x 3000RPM Noctua Industrial fans

Keyboard: Razer BlackWidow V3 RGB - Green switches

Sound: Logitech Z680 5.1 THX Certified 505W Speakers

Mouse: Razer Basilisk Ultimate Wireless with charging dock

Piano: Yamaha P155

Phone: Oppo Find X5 Pro

Camera: Logitech Brio Pro 4K

VR: Oculus Rift S

External SSD: 256GB Overclocking OS

LaptopMSI Titan GT77HX V13RTX 4090 175W, i9 13980HX OC: P-Cores 5.8Ghz 3 cores and 5.2Ghz 5 cores and E-Cores 4.3Ghz, 192GB of RAM @5600Mhz @3600 (chipset limit),

12TB (3x4TB) of NVMe, 17'3 inch 4K 144Hz MiniLED screen, 4x 17'3 ASUS portable USB-C Monitors 240Hz, Creative Sound Blaster G6 Sound Card, Portable 16TB NVMe in TB4 enclosures (8x2TB), Razer Basilisk Ultimate Wireless with charging dock gaming mouse, Keychron K3 gaming keyboard with blue switches low profile, Logitech Brio 4K Webcam.

Hand held: ROG Ally with XG Mobile RTX 3080 with Keychron K3 low profile keyboard (Blue Switches) and Razer Hyperspeed V3 mouse and 4TB NVMe upgrade (WDBlack SN850X), with 100W 20000Mah power bank and portable monitor ROG XG17AHP 17'3 inch 240Hz with built in battery, and 518Wh Power station for Camping.

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5 minutes ago, killyx said:

I really checked carefully, and even changed the spacer to reduce height of the cooler, I'm sure it make proper contact.. I have tried to change his position 3 times and nothing changes. And my friends didn't even use the spacers provided with the kit, he just used the stock one;

You might have messed up the temp sensor by removing the solder? that requires a lot of heat i would assume

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