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PC Build (Mini-ITX) for Gaming 1080p&1440p

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hello guys,

Well I´m planing to build a mini-ITX as compact as possible, since I move every 1 month from 2 residences, sure I could have a Laptop but it overheats and there are always issues with performance, as again, nothing equals to a good Desktop. 

Planing to sell my MSI GE76 8SF (RTX 2070) because it has alote problems connected to external monitores and perfomance wise isn´t so great.

 

I´m living in Portugal so we have (€) and things are more expensive in tech then in USA and Canada or other parts of Europe, so Im very limited to some few good stores. I can build easy a system so... I don´t wanna any bottleneck and as the title shows, its for gaming at 1080p (on Monitor) and 1440p (on TV).

 

Here are the spec´s, keep in mind the CASE can´t be switched, this is the best case I could find in my country for the size I wanna. There are so many doubts for example CPU (if i5 9400F is worth over i5 9600K) or considering i7 but since I only game, there is no need for a i7 that would kill by budget. Main concern is powersupply and compatiblity and CPU/Motherboard.

 

- Case Mini-ITX Raijintek Ophion Evo

- Airventilation Raijintek Aeolus Beta 120mm for bottom intake and Scythe Ultra Kaze 120mm - 3000rpm 1 for outake besides the watercooler in case of a i5 unlocked

- Powersupply Semi Modular Corsair TX 550M 80+ Gold  (? worth? and fit it in the case?

- CPU Intel Core i5 9600K 6-Core 

- Cooler CPU Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML120L

- Motherboard MSI MPG Z390I GAMING EDGE AC    OR   Gigabyte Z390 I Aorus Pro WiFi   (Same price)

- RAM G.Skill Kit 16GB (2 X 8GB) DDR4 3600MHz Ripjaws V Black CL18

Disco SSD Kingston A2000 1TB M.2 NVMe 2280

- GPU MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT EVOKE OC 8G

 

Price is around 1260€ OR 1416$

 

 

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I have the Gigabyte board. When I was choosing for a Mini-ITX motherboard, I went with Gigabyte due to better audio chip, Intel LAN (eww Realtek on the MSI board).

 

But have you considered Ryzen at all?


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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, jj9987 said:

I have the Gigabyte board. When I was choosing for a Mini-ITX motherboard, I went with Gigabyte due to better audio chip, Intel LAN (eww Realtek on the MSI board).

 

But have you considered Ryzen at all?

I did had Ryzen 2xxx  and I regred to have it. Most games that I play just have low FPS! And trust me, I tryed OC and everything. Intel is all the best choise, since the i5 even beats the Ryzen 3600 in every game. So ye, would be nice  having a AMD combo but Kinda concerned because benchmarks doesn´t give much to AMD side. 

 

As I said, had bad experience with AMD in the past GEN, atleast  with 2xxx, they sucks!

 

For example the i5 9400f is equal almost in everygame to a R5 3600 or  in this case the i5 9600K to a  R5 3600X (more expensive in AMD in both cases)!

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23 minutes ago, jaydeltaa said:

I did had Ryzen 2xxx  and I regred to have it. Most games that I play just have low FPS!

What is your performance target? My friend uses a Ryzen 5 2600 for his 144 FPS gaming rig, works pretty great. Did you perhaps have slow ram?

 

while portugese pricing is a little different from US, the 9600K does not command a lot more gaming performance over the 3600 while it has a pretty hefty price increase, and you do not get hyperthreading. the difference in performance between Intel and AMD right now is so tiny you won't notice it.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

What is your performance target? My friend uses a Ryzen 5 2600 for his 144 FPS gaming rig, works pretty great. Did you perhaps have slow ram?

 

while portugese pricing is a little different from US, the 9600K does not command a lot more gaming performance over the 3600 while it has a pretty hefty price increase, and you do not get hyperthreading. the difference in performance between Intel and AMD right now is so tiny you won't notice it.

Well AMD Ryzen 2600 series on my main games like BF4, BF V, GTA V suffered alote! And yes, I got the right RAM! Ryzen 5 2600 isn´t not worth it, I had then switched to i5 8600 and was day/night difference. I only wanna high FPS, not exactly "needed" to target 144 FPS ofc!

 

Well Ryzen 5 3600 costs 240€ and the Intel i5 costs 250€. And the Ryzen 5 3600 is +- same as the I5 9400F thats about 100€ less.

I did alote research sure its different in many videos... 

1% low is that what  counts.

Sure the Ryzen 3600X is a good choise but to expensive right now.

Some games are better in the 5 3600X thats a fact.

 

 

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45 minutes ago, jaydeltaa said:

Well AMD Ryzen 2600 series on my main games like BF4, BF V, GTA V suffered alote! And yes, I got the right RAM! Ryzen 5 2600 isn´t not worth it, I had then switched to i5 8600 and was day/night difference. I only wanna high FPS, not exactly "needed" to target 144 FPS ofc!

 

Well Ryzen 5 3600 costs 240€ and the Intel i5 costs 250€. And the Ryzen 5 3600 is +- same as the I5 9400F thats about 100€ less.

I did alote research sure its different in many videos... 

1% low is that what  counts.

Sure the Ryzen 3600X is a good choise but to expensive right now.

Some games are better in the 5 3600X thats a fact.

 

 

Pretty much the same reason why I went with a 9600k. Plus the Mini-ITX boards were quite a bit more expensive here (don't remember exact numbers tho).

 

Anyhow, I'm happy with my Gigabyte board and the system in general. 

120mm AIO is kinda useless, might as well get an air cooler and you might even get better temps. Unless you really like the aesthetics of an AIO.

3000rpm fan is going to be loud.

For the SSD, you could also consider ADATA XPG SX8200 or just go with a SATA SSD. Games do not benefit from NVMe drives very much. I'm not sure if the A2000 is very reliable. Plus it loses a lot of it's speed when writing a lot (pretty much to SATA SSD level).

 

EDIT: I am not sure about the OC capabilities though, did not check which motherboard can OC better (better VRM and power delivery).


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, jj9987 said:

Pretty much the same reason why I went with a 9600k. Plus the Mini-ITX boards were quite a bit more expensive here (don't remember exact numbers tho).

 

Anyhow, I'm happy with my Gigabyte board and the system in general. 

120mm AIO is kinda useless, might as well get an air cooler and you might even get better temps. Unless you really like the aesthetics of an AIO.

3000rpm fan is going to be loud.

For the SSD, you could also consider ADATA XPG SX8200 or just go with a SATA SSD. Games do not benefit from NVMe drives very much. I'm not sure if the A2000 is very reliable. Plus it loses a lot of it's speed when writing a lot (pretty much to SATA SSD level).

 

EDIT: I am not sure about the OC capabilities though, did not check which motherboard can OC better (better VRM and power delivery).

I had the same reason when I did go to a 8600K back then, better  overall for my RTX 2070 back then system. Sold it for  reasons well, stupid to say!

 

Anyways, the AIO was because of  the case, but I can use 2 outtake fans  120mm and a cooler, What cooler u recomend for this case?

Gona only put a stable 4.7GHz  OC on the CPU, dont gona push more then that.

 

And the powersupply, what u  think about that?

Ye I gona consider to change the SSD as u said  to a better one!

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19 hours ago, jaydeltaa said:

And the powersupply, what u  think about that?

I have the TX650M and it's fine. Even slightly overkill, but ehh.

19 hours ago, jaydeltaa said:

Anyways, the AIO was because of  the case, but I can use 2 outtake fans  120mm and a cooler, What cooler u recomend for this case?

Gona only put a stable 4.7GHz  OC on the CPU, dont gona push more then that.

That depends on what size coolers the case supports (height limit). Just look around the benchmarks.

Cryorig, Cooler Master, Noctua and others, they all make great coolers.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, jj9987 said:

I have the TX650M and it's fine. Even slightly overkill, but ehh.

That depends on what size coolers the case supports (height limit). Just look around the benchmarks.

Cryorig, Cooler Master, Noctua and others, they all make great coolers.

Thanks for ur help.

Its always a welcome since in our countrys forum are most ppl just fanboys of something and can´t give any clear answer!

 

The case is gona be the other version Raijintek Ophion Evo instante of the regular one!.

 

BTW is the i7 8700 (non K) over i5 9600K worth it?

Anyways im kinda affraid of the reviews of the AMD side, is it worth over  the RTX 2070 Super?

And last question is Seasonic Modular M12II 620W Evo Edition 80+ Bronze worth it? its almost 35€ less.

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I choose the Corsair Hydro H100x, for a good discount, is it worth? Since the GPU is a Zotac RTX 2070 SUPER Twin Fan 8GB GD6 there is a good space to apply the Corsair and PSU to connect the PCI-e connectores to GPU.

 

What u say? Overall...

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