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Here's what you need to overclock 3rd-gen Ryzen

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Overclocking AMD’s 3rd-gen Ryzen CPUs is pretty different from previous generations – So it’s time for an update to our Ryzen overclocking guide!

 

 

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Do you have a source for the 1.35V recommended Core Voltage, or are you basing it off the around 1.35V you see (or at least I see) on an all core boost?

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Just now, Frezeh said:

Do you have a source for the 1.35V recommended Core Voltage, or are you basing it off the around 1.35V you see (or at least I see) on an all core boost?

I believe The Stilt found that 3rd-gen chips begin to degrade at 1.35V, although stock operating voltages with XFR can pass 1.4V incidentally. With 1.35V configured manually, vdroop means it's really running at 1.28V or something like that when all cores are under load, depending on your load line calibration setting. In any case, setting over 1.35V didn't seem to help stability much in my testing regardless, so for all of those reasons, that's as high as I'd feel comfortable recommending.


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Another great one - deep dive, yet very comprehensive!


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2 minutes ago, GabenJr said:

I believe The Stilt found that 3rd-gen chips begin to degrade at 1.35V, although stock operating voltages with XFR can pass 1.4V incidentally. With 1.35V configured manually, vdroop means it's really running at 1.28V or something like that when all cores are under load, depending on your load line calibration setting. In any case, setting over 1.35V didn't seem to help stability much in my testing regardless, so for all of those reasons, that's as high as I'd feel comfortable recommending.

Stilt's recommendation was actually 1.325V, which I've used on my 3900X for almost a month now for a nice 4.3GHz. Maybe I'll try to increase it to around 1.35V and see If I can get that extra 100Mhz more along with some new B-die memory for awesome gains.

I have to commend you for the hard work you've put up for this great video. I've learned most of these things on my own, but might save countless hours for some of my friends who have concidered new Ryzens!

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Anthony, you really are the man when it comes to technical details. Everything is explained in a nice, easy to understand way and you give enough information to explain without overloading or adding confusion.

 

Some great tips in this video, I've been messing with my 3800X and it seems like it has potential but I just can't get it 109% stable. I'll watch this a few times and try again over the coming weekend.


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37 minutes ago, Frezeh said:

Stilt's recommendation was actually 1.325V, which I've used on my 3900X for almost a month now for a nice 4.3GHz. Maybe I'll try to increase it to around 1.35V and see If I can get that extra 100Mhz more along with some new B-die memory for awesome gains.

I have to commend you for the hard work you've put up for this great video. I've learned most of these things on my own, but might save countless hours for some of my friends who have concidered new Ryzens!

"According to FIT, the safe voltage levels for the silicon are around 1.325V in high-current loads and up to 1.47V in low-current loads (i.e ST)" Right, so based on that, setting 1.35V and having vdroop bring it down to 1.28V or whatever will be within his recommendation, since he's talking about high-current, multi-core loads. So make sure that your high-load voltages don't exceed 1.325V (that is, don't set a too-aggressive voltage target or LLC) and you're fine.


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5 minutes ago, GabenJr said:

"According to FIT, the safe voltage levels for the silicon are around 1.325V in high-current loads and up to 1.47V in low-current loads (i.e ST)" Right, so based on that, setting 1.35V and having vdroop bring it down to 1.28V or whatever will be within his recommendation, since he's talking about high-current, multi-core loads. So make sure that your high-load voltages don't exceed 1.325V (that is, don't set a too-aggressive voltage target or LLC) and you're fine.

So basically what I've been always doing :)

Funny thing about people calling Ryzens "not good overclockers" is that although they might not have as much headroom like the good old Sandy bridge, it's still full of stuff to tweak. The magic of Ryzen seems to be that they run at their top recommended voltages at stock, and "overclocking" at least on my setup gives lower temps and power consuption wtih more performance.

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Anthony,

 

WIll you be releasing a written guide to go along with this?


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I find it very interesting that 7nm has a lower voltage tolerance, 1.35v is down from the common wisdom of 14nm.


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What I would like to know is right now my R7 3700x all i did was enable auto oc up to 200mhz, if I run c20 voltages bouncing between 1.359-1.362 temp according to Ryzen master 73c. Cores bounce between 4.075-4.175ghz. Everything straight out of the box all I did was go to bios under amd overclock pbo and set it to 200mhz and thats it. OC memory from 3000mhz c15 to 3200mhz and adjusted timings. Using Dram Calculator got a good pass (on multiple runs) and scored on C20 4738 pts . Gaming & Streaming temps don't go above 44c I am using a Corsair aio 240mm radiator with 2 120mm Corsair ML fans. While gaming and streaming all cores stay at and I mean stay at 4.3ghz, but my concern is while idling or light loads the cpu voltages bounc up and down but are staying at a average of 1.428. Is that degrading my CPU? Thats all stock settings. Idle Temps jump between 35.9c up to 40c, as well as idle voltages are 1.4-1.423. Any Help or input would be much appreciated.

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Is it normal for Ryzen 3900X to freeze in AIDA64 memory stress test?..I found no matter what I did it always freeze for about 30s at the beginning running.. and if I ran tighter timings after the beginning 30S freeze if freeze for 5s repeatedly.( Just stared at the elapsed time counter)

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16 hours ago, GabenJr said:

Overclocking AMD’s 3rd-gen Ryzen CPUs is pretty different from previous generations – So it’s time for an update to our Ryzen overclocking guide!

I just wanted to commend Anthony on this video...not so much the topic or info...I know NOTHING about overclocking...it's all fairy magic to me....but his presentation. He just came across very confident and comfortable in front of the camera. It's been a real joy watching him improve as an on-screen presenter.


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On 8/14/2019 at 3:26 PM, Master Disaster said:

Anthony, you really are the man when it comes to technical details. Everything is explained in a nice, easy to understand way and you give enough information to explain without overloading or adding confusion.

 

Some great tips in this video, I've been messing with my 3800X and it seems like it has potential but I just can't get it 109% stable. I'll watch this a few times and try again over the coming weekend.

Please report back with your findings! Just picked up a 3800x and the exact same cooler lol.

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2 hours ago, Gavination said:

Please report back with your findings! Just picked up a 3800x and the exact same cooler lol.

Chip seems fine at 4.2 all core but cannot do 4.3 all core, it's mostly stable but Cinebench crashes. Tbh I've settled with an undervolt of -0.1v and leaving the CPU to do its thing. Seems to be the best balance of performance and temperature.


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4 hours ago, Master Disaster said:

Chip seems fine at 4.2 all core but cannot do 4.3 all core, it's mostly stable but Cinebench crashes. Tbh I've settled with an undervolt of -0.1v and leaving the CPU to do its thing. Seems to be the best balance of performance and temperature. 

You are person of the year. Thanks for the update. I hadn't gotten around to OC'ing yet, but I'm amped to give it a go.

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@GabenJr am looking into building a 2U linux/kvm machine with 3700x, x570 and 128GB of ram, but I have been stuck with my online research for CPU cooler (rather silent if possible, my 42U is in my living room) and ram offerings. any insight ?

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So I have my 3900x @1.4v, 4.3 all core, no llc.  At full load in realbench and r20, my processors vcore goes down to 1.319.  Am I safe, or am I stupid?

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