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3900X Video Editing/Some Gaming $3000 Canadian Build Help

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Posted · Original PosterOP

1. Budget & Location

$3000ish in Canada. I get a 3 year interest free loan for $3K, so I can go over a bit if I need too.

2. Aim

I do a lot of 4K 60fps video editing for my small YouTube channel, that will be the main workload of the computer. I do play the odd game but because my current machine is so old I have been buying things for my Xbone instead.

3. Monitors

I will be running at least 2 monitors and maybe 3 depending on how bit I go for one of them.

4. Peripherals

I will need Windows. I have keyboard, mouse, speakers, headset. I will be buying at least 1 better monitor though. I will probably end up buying a multiple monitor arm.

5. Why are you upgrading?

My current machine is a 2500K and I don't remember the graphics card, I built it in 2011 for Battlefield 3. It is a massive pain to edit the 4K footage now. 

6. Extra info

I got the 3900X from Amazon with the price error so figured that would be my starting point. Generally have never tinkered with my machines before and I am not hunting for extra fps for games, so I don't think I will be really doing any overclocking. I do want RGB because I am a noob, but it really won't make or break anything. But I would for example pay $10 more for a component to have it. The monitors I currently have are all pre-display port... so a 4K monitor (maybe as I am not sure if it is worth 4K at sub 30"?) and probably a high refresh rate one will be needed as well. The monitor situation is something I am not super sure about. I have a solid 4K tv close by so I don't necessarily need a 4K monitor on the desk and I will probably just buy 1 new monitor and use my old ones as the secondary/tertiary screens..

 

I don't believe I will ever need PCI4, and I doubt I would buy a second graphics card so I think I could just get a B450? Could anyone give some advice? I know I have to watch the LTT video about timings and everything for RAM but I haven't had the time to actually part pick yet.

 

Hopefully I hit all the points right for this.

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($675.50 @ shopRBC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($224.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($96.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Patriot Burst 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($67.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  ($524.50 @ Vuugo) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB510L ATX Mid Tower Case  ($62.00 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Monitor: LG 32UD89-W 31.5" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor  ($620.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Monitor: LG 32UD89-W 31.5" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor  ($620.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Total: $3033.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I'd suggest an X570 motherboard even though you will be running with stock settings. It will have a longer useful life and more importantly, better power delivery.

 

The cpu cooler included in this build is a bit over the top but it offers motherboard compatible RGB.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
CPU Cooler: Asus ROG Ryujin 240 RGB AIO 121.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($299.64 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($317.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($241.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($253.75 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card  ($682.11 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($209.99 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($113.00 @ Amazon Canada) 
Monitor: LG 27UD68-W 27.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor  ($540.48 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $2788.45
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13 minutes ago, m777y said:


Storage: Patriot Burst 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($67.99 @ Amazon Canada) 

basically the kingston A400 with 3d instead of 2d nand. would definitely pass up...

 

6 minutes ago, brob said:

I'd suggest an X570 motherboard even though you will be running with stock settings. It will have a longer useful life and more importantly, better power delivery.

Source? Because according to cautilus's vrm vcore rating , the b450-a pro/tomahawk/gaming plus are more than capable of handling an overclocked 3900x...

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5 minutes ago, hello_there_123 said:

basically the kingston A400 with 3d instead of 2d nand. would definitely pass up...

 

Source? Because according to cautilus's vrm vcore rating , the b450-a pro/tomahawk/gaming plus are more than capable of handling an overclocked 3900x...

Phison S11 head to head 2Ch3?

 

nice brain

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1 hour ago, hello_there_123 said:

Source? Because according to cautilus's vrm vcore rating , the b450-a pro/tomahawk/gaming plus are more than capable of handling an overclocked 3900x...

 

I did not claim that B450 motherboards could not handle a 3900X, merely that IMO X570 was a better choice; data in the source you referenced suggests this as a general case.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

Would I even need a CPU cooler for this build? The stock AMD one won't be adequate?

 

Also, no way 16GB of memory is going to be enough for 4K video editing...

 

Wouldn't a 120HZ or more monitor at around 30inches be more useful than a 4K one?

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7 minutes ago, HockeyReviews said:

Would I even need a CPU cooler for this build? The stock AMD one won't be adequate?

Suitability of the stock cooler depends in part on loading. Long periods at near full load may result in higher than desired noise and temperature levels. It wouldn't hurt to start with the stock cooler and add a third party cpu cooler if it proved necessary. In a good case upgrading a cpu cooler should not be difficult.

 

7 minutes ago, HockeyReviews said:

Also, no way 16GB of memory is going to be enough for 4K video editing...

Quite true, 32GB would be much better.

 

8 minutes ago, HockeyReviews said:

Wouldn't a 120HZ or more monitor at around 30inches be more useful than a 4K one?

Depends on what is more important. Editing 4K content would be better done with a 4K monitor with color fidelity. OTH if gaming is more important, then a higher refresh rate might be preferable. As to size, 32"+ would be better for 4K, but 27" is pretty good. It comes down to personal preference so I'd suggest visiting a store and checking out options.

 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, brob said:

Suitability of the stock cooler depends in part on loading. Long periods at near full load may result in higher than desired noise and temperature levels. It wouldn't hurt to start with the stock cooler and add a third party cpu cooler if it proved necessary. In a good case upgrading a cpu cooler should not be difficult.

 

Quite true, 32GB would be much better.

 

Depends on what is more important. Editing 4K content would be better done with a 4K monitor with color fidelity. OTH if gaming is more important, then a higher refresh rate might be preferable. As to size, 32"+ would be better for 4K, but 27" is pretty good. It comes down to personal preference so I'd suggest visiting a store and checking out options.

 

Thanks for the advice. I currently do the editing on a 1920x1200 24" that that was purchased when HDMI was a newish thing. I will say my editing is more of just splicing video than any effects so I think going to a gaming focused one might be the best bet.

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($675.50 @ shopRBC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML120R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Memory Express) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($234.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Memory: Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: HP EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($153.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($94.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Twin Fan Video Card  ($639.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($114.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Monitor: LG 32UD89-W 31.5" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor  ($620.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Total: $2965.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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1 hour ago, Blind-X said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($675.50 @ shopRBC) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML120R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Memory Express) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($234.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Memory: Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: HP EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($153.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($94.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Twin Fan Video Card  ($639.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($114.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Monitor: LG 32UD89-W 31.5" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor  ($620.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Total: $2965.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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That cooler is a waste of money. You could get a Noctua D15 for the same price.

 


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3 hours ago, lee32uk said:

That cooler is a waste of money. You could get a Noctua D15 for the same price.

 

Its a pretty decent cooler, definitely better than the stock. Keep the temps cool even under load and is super quite, both the pump and the fan that comes with it. Installation is easy, the build quality is SOLID and the fact that it has some amaizing RGB is the reason this thing is on the part list.

 

Not a waste of money by any means :)

 

Yeah the D15 would do better. But try reading the full thread. He wants his system to be RGB and the D15 can't be considered for aesthetic purposes.

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CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX L240 69.34 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($79.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($264.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: Team T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($207.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: HP EX950 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($177.99 @ Powertop) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($94.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB Twin Fan Video Card  ($639.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Case: Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Full - USB 32/64-bit  ($105.00 @ Amazon Canada) 
Monitor: LG 32UD59-B 32.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor  ($407.99 @ Vuugo) 
Monitor: LG 32UD59-B 32.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor  ($407.99 @ Vuugo) 
Total: $2596.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-14 22:11 EDT-0400


CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700@3.8Ghz Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Zotac GTX 1070ti Mini RAM: Qidian DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: MSI X370 Gaming Plus case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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Just now, hello_there_123 said:

uhm... why not the 550w?

550 will also do but just keeping things on the safer side. also when you have the budget then y not.

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1 minute ago, Blind-X said:

550 will also do but just keeping things on the safer side. also when you have the budget then y not.

I have full confidence , to say that ATX spec will change , voltage regulation will become wack on the rmx before 650W is needed on a regular , price/performance oriented consumer level build. that , more than likely will become 10$ wasted on literally nothing...

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3 minutes ago, hello_there_123 said:

I have full confidence , to say that ATX spec will change , voltage regulation will become wack on the rmx before 650W is needed on a regular , price/performance oriented consumer level build. that , more than likely will become 10$ wasted on literally nothing...

As I said 550 watt will do, but this is not a price/performance oriented build and neither 10 dollars are wasted, might come in handy in future.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

So, I am at this point right now. I am trying to find a 5700XT non-blower but they aren't available at the moment.

 

My question now, I am not sure what to do for NVMe. Do I replace the 480 SSD with 2 NVMe cards? One for the OS and one for files that will be edited? I also am not sure if I need something like this:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/9nhKHx/intel-660p-series-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ssdpeknw010t8x1

or

https://www.amazon.ca/XPG-GAMMIX-NAND-Gen3x4-AGAMMIXS11P-1TT-C/dp/B07KZNTZYB/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_147_t_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=PBXGQHBHG3E1E3AD9BHM

 

or use the intel one for the OS and the XPG for the editing.

 

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18 hours ago, Blind-X said:

Its a pretty decent cooler, definitely better than the stock. Keep the temps cool even under load and is super quite, both the pump and the fan that comes with it. Installation is easy, the build quality is SOLID and the fact that it has some amaizing RGB is the reason this thing is on the part list.

 

Not a waste of money by any means :)

 

Yeah the D15 would do better. But try reading the full thread. He wants his system to be RGB and the D15 can't be considered for aesthetic purposes.

That case can take up to a 360mm AIO. There is no reason to go with a 120mm one. The 240mm version is only $20 more, although out of stock at the moment. 

 

He could always go with the Noctua D15S as that doesn't block any ram slots so the RGB ram would still be on view. The fan on the cooler could then be swapped for one of the Chromax versions or an RGB one etc.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

Here is my latest build of this. Still debating on the MOBO and will be waiting for a 5700 XT non-blower. One of the M.2 will be removed, just waiting to see what is cheapest when I buy a bunch of the parts.

 

Going to wait on a monitor when I find one on sale I really want

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/hockeyreviews/saved/x2KMcf

 

Any suggestions on the mobo?

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26 minutes ago, HockeyReviews said:

Here is my latest build of this. Still debating on the MOBO and will be waiting for a 5700 XT non-blower. One of the M.2 will be removed, just waiting to see what is cheapest when I buy a bunch of the parts.

 

Going to wait on a monitor when I find one on sale I really want

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/hockeyreviews/saved/x2KMcf

 

Any suggestions on the mobo?

 

If the plan is to use the 4TB hdd in a raid array I'd suggest getting models designed for that use. WD Red, Seagate Ironwolf and HGST Deskstar NAS are popular brands.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
14 minutes ago, brob said:

 

If the plan is to use the 4TB hdd in a raid array I'd suggest getting models designed for that use. WD Red, Seagate Ironwolf and HGST Deskstar NAS are popular brands.

If I am just doing a RAID 1 is the Red really worth the price increase? I have 2 blues currently in software RAID for backup purposes.

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4 hours ago, brob said:

 

If the plan is to use the 4TB hdd in a raid array I'd suggest getting models designed for that use. WD Red, Seagate Ironwolf and HGST Deskstar NAS are popular brands.

This is a fairly accurate comment because the kind of drive you choose to buy makes all the difference. A drive’s reliability is found in the right match between the device and what you need it to do...


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