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Need a bit of help with RAM OC

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Ok cpu overclocking was pretty easy to figure out, but RAM oc makes me go cross eyed. Basically I have a 32 gb 8x4 kit of vengeance pro 3200 MHz that the Xmp profile takes right to 3200 but I’d like to see if I can get a bit more. Is there like an idiots guide out there or something fairly easy to read and understand in regards to what values to change and what the timings mean etc?


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2 sticks OC much better than 4, just so you know before going in. You may not get much more than your 3200MHz.

 

To put it simply, all timings can be adjusted, and lower is better. This is a gross oversimplification, but in the situations you're in they hold up.


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3 minutes ago, SenKa said:

2 sticks OC much better than 4, just so you know before going in. You may not get much more than your 3200MHz.

 

To put it simply, all timings can be adjusted, and lower is better. This is a gross oversimplification, but in the situations you're in they hold up.

Ya I knew about the 4 vs 2 but it is what it is. So basically start with 1 timing and lower it by one and try to boot and continue going lower till it fails than move on, would that be correct? Also when it comes to frequency same thing, just go up one step at a time till it fails to boot? And if that’s right, which should be adjusted first, frequency or timings, and what about voltages because I’m assuming they need to be altered as well. As I said I find ram way more complicated but maybe I just over complicate it 


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Just now, Ravendarat said:

Ya I knew about the 4 vs 2 but it is what it is. So basically start with 1 timing and lower it by one and try to boot and continue going lower till it fails than move on, would that be correct? Also when it comes to frequency same thing, just go up one step at a time till it fails to boot? And if that’s right, which should be adjusted first, frequency or timings, and what about voltages because I’m assuming they need to be altered as well. As I said I find ram way more complicated but maybe I just over complicate it 

You want to go with one or the other first, frequency or timings. Here is how I OC RAM, take that as you will. I may do something "wrong", or out of order, but this works for me:

 

  1. Verify RAM is running at correct timings (timings are printed on sticks and can be found on product page. XMP doesn't always get this right)
  2. If the RAM is at the wrong timings fix them
  3. Set voltage to manual, leave voltage default
  4. Re-verify stability (I prefer Prime 95 Large FFT's)
  5. If stable, step down all memory timings by one.
  6. Re-verify
  7. Repeat step 5 and 6 until unstable, then step back one and save your settings.
  8. Timings should be set now
  9. Go to memory frequency, step up 100MHz
  10. Reverify
  11. Repeat steps 9 and 10 until unstable, then step back 100MHz and save your settings.
  12. Reverify total system stability

This is what some people would call "chicken clocking", but there's no shame in it! I call it optimal stability clocking ;)

 

I do timings first as they often have a far larger impact than clock, but really memory OC is just for fun IMO. Even Ryzen doesn't respond too much beyond ~3000 MHz.


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