why you SHOULDN'T buy a Seasonic Focus (Plus) (Gold/Platinum)

[LukeSavenije]

1 hour ago, _DeXTeR_ said:

Have anyone of you ever checked your electricity in houses

this has absolutely no relevance to the topic

[Algebruh]

Do Seasonic fix their fan profile? Some of their psus seem to make horrible grinding noise at low rpm.

[Sycoblackburn]

On 8/12/2019 at 1:19 PM, LukeSavenije said:

(This also counts for focus based PSUs like Antec Earthwatts and Asus Strix, with the exception of the nzxt-e and the new Focus GM, GX, PX and SGX lines (it meets 2.52 atx, which require hardware changes))

 

The Seasonic Focus line has been suffering major criticism on the PSU subforum lately. Why?

 

Old revisions (2017-2018) will shut off on some GPUs (970, 1080 ti, vega 64, Vega VII, 2080 ti). it'll will trigger the overcurrent protection, and will shut down immediately. This is likely due to the high transients the GPUs are known to put out

 

New revisions (2018-2019) have a bigger headroom, but aren't built for it and start to ripple at the loads where the PSU would shut down at with the older revision.

 

If you plan on buying one, either wait for the v2, or choose a different PSUs, for this you can check the PSU tier list, or ask around on the forum.

 

With that is focus known to be quite loud under load, has a staggering 200% opp on the 3.3v rail, but this isn't as concerning as the above mentioned problems.

 

edit: the 2019 based Focus GX/GM/PX have fixed mentioned issues

 

Sources: @PSUGuru, Tomshardware, Guru3d, seasonic, pceva

Well guess who just ordered a focus gx-650 on Amazon.. I bought it for my upcoming RTX 3070 upgrade I've got an i7 9700F that I'll pair it with it. I'm upgrading from a 500w bronze ibuypower power supply. Is it worth it to cancel it, and order something else if I can?

[LukeSavenije]

2 hours ago, Sycoblackburn said:

Well guess who just ordered a focus gx-650

read the edit

[Tech Reprise]

So the Antec EAG Pro 750 I bought is based on the first generation of Focus Gold PSU most probably, the cables don't have any capacitors and the Antec website mentions ATX 2.42 compliant. Will this be an issue, I might add a 2060 super like card in the future

[Sycoblackburn]

42 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

read the edit

Just saw it. I already cancelled and ordered a 650w Corsair RMX 2018 instead

[Tech Reprise]

5 hours ago, RR94IND said:

So the Antec EAG Pro 750 I bought is based on the first generation of Focus Gold PSU most probably, the cables don't have any capacitors and the Antec website mentions ATX 2.42 compliant. Will this be an issue, I might add a 2060 super like card in the future

Just got confirmation from Seasonic that the newer Antec EAG's are based on the Focus GM Platform.

[Yuniel]

i buy 8 days ago this PSU

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W4PLZWH/ref=twister_B08JH24931?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

directly sold by and ship by amazon.com

Style: FOCUS PX ('20) | Pattern Name: Power | Size: 750W |

 

so my question is this PSU is good ? is no the old version ? , when the bog arrived i can see the date of manufactured of the PSU ?

• COMPACT SIZE: 140 MM deep fits ALL ATX systems.
• FULL MODULAR: Use only the cables you need to reduce clutter to maximize airflow for a better ventilated system.
• 80 PLUS PLATINUM: Less energy gets wasted during power conversion; Cut down your electricity usage and be Eco-Friendly.
• PREMIUM HYBRID FAN CONTROL: Unsurpassed silent performance in Fanless Mode. The fan control button at the back of the power supply allows users to customize cooling needs by selecting between Seasonic S2FC (fan control without Fanless Mode) and S3FC (fan control including Fanless Mode).
• 10 YEAR WORRY-FREE WARRANTY: Our commitment to superior quality.
• Model number is Focus PX-750. Safety model name is SSR-750PX

 

this PSU is good beacuse is small and fit perfect for my factral defince C and in order to use the both HDD bay i need small PSU for easy cable management or i can choice the evga G3 is better than the G5 , but the cable of the G3 are meshy and in cable capasitator can be dificulty for cable m. , no to mention the other problem with the power protection carry the g3 me personal i have G3 since 2017 and until now i have zero problem with it 850w , but in my new PC i will put a new PSU all must be new

 

and corsair is out of choice with really bad exp i had before

 

[Juular]

3 hours ago, Yuniel said:

FOCUS PX ('20)

It's renewed version. Regardless, if you don't plan to use it with AMD Vega or nVidia RTX3080/3090 then even old revision is okay.

[Yuniel]

8 minutes ago, Juular said:

It's renewed version. Regardless, if you don't plan to use it with AMD Vega or nVidia RTX3080/3090 then even old revision is okay.

yes i planing for use 3080 rtx , so FOCUS PX ('20) 750w is good ? all the problem are fixed ?

[Yuniel]

and wich one is better SF-750F14RGV2.0      or     SF-750F14RG      without V2.0

https://www.amazon.com/Fanless-Modular-Dynamic-SF-750F14RG-V2-0/dp/B08BJZVDP8/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=SF-750F14RG&qid=1601489931&s=electronics&sr=1-1&th=1

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-argb-sf-750f14rg-750w/p/1HU-024C-00002?Item=9SIARHUC5S8364&quicklink=true

 

one come with cube crystal connector and the other no ?

 

according ro aris the version without V2 is really good PSU , but idk if the only diference is one with cube crystal connector and the other no

any help explaining it ? beacuse accorind to tier list PSU Super Flower | Leadex Gold / Platinum / Titanium / III (pre/post 2020 y.) / III (Pro) ARGB 

POST 2020

 

[Juular]

1 hour ago, Yuniel said:

and wich one is better SF-750F14RGV2.0      or     SF-750F14RG      without V2.0

V2 should be better.

2 hours ago, Yuniel said:

yes i planing for use 3080 rtx , so FOCUS PX ('20) 750w is good ? all the problem are fixed ?

We don't know for sure but there were no reports of new Focus shutting down with RTX3080/3090, only with Prime.

[zapdroid]

I have just received an Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 750W to be used for my upcoming 3080. Based on the serial # it appears to be a 2019 unit. How can I test it with my GPU to definitively know if it has the defects described in the original topic? Just run it at 100% for a half hour and see if it crashes? Is there any risk of damaging components if it is faulty and I continue to use it until I get a new one?

[IgorNg]

On 8/12/2019 at 7:19 PM, LukeSavenije said:

New revisions (2018-2019) have a bigger headroom, but aren't built for it and start to ripple at the loads where the PSU would shut down at with the older revision.

 

If you plan on buying one, either wait for the v2, or choose a different PSUs, for this you can check the PSU tier list, or ask around on the forum.

 

edit: the 2019 based Focus GX/GM/PX have fixed mentioned issues

 

Hello!

You said to wait for v2 of Focus Plus Gold... Is that Focus GX or there is something like Focus Plus Gold v2?

  

[Gigakv]

On 8/12/2019 at 1:19 PM, LukeSavenije said:

New revisions (2018-2019) have a bigger headroom, but aren't built for it and start to ripple at the loads where the PSU would shut down at with the older revision.

 

What does it mean to me as a user? 

Will it damage my components? 

[Gigakv]

Please delete double post 

[Nick Brennan]

I got rid of my GX 750 watt and bought a Corsair 850 RMX. I no longer have black screens with my 2070. Or it could of been my icue software causing black screens.

[Tech Reprise]

On 10/25/2020 at 1:11 PM, NickBrennan said:

I got rid of my GX 750 watt and bought a Corsair 850 RMX. I no longer have black screens with my 2070. Or it could of been my icue software causing black screens.

iCue has some serious issues. On my laptop it prevents the laptop from using the intel hd gpu. As a result laptop always uses the 1060 and heats up. 

 

[MewMew]

Would the FOCUS GX-650 (SSR-650FX) fall in line with the exclusions?

I'm a large dumb dumb. 

[Silversong]

Wow, this topic is huge! (and a bit confusing ;)), so I'll add in my request for advice too. I'm troubleshooting intermittent hangs, freezes and pc shut downs and it was suggested I replace my 500W psu. I have a 1070 Ti and the SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold was recommended to me by a Reddit user (yes, I have been there as well). After reading through many of the posts here, I'm coming to realize that other psu's are more highly recommended at the same price point, notably the Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80 which is currently on a good sale on Amazon.ca. It's a bit bigger than Seasonic (160mm vs 140 or 120 depending on the unit) so I need to check my case to see if it fits. But, and here's the question, is this an alternative unit you would recommend or is there something more recent that's a better option in the same price range? My PC is getting up there, so any psu I buy now will likely be used in a future build, but stlil needs to work in my 2017 HP Omen for now :)

[artuc]

10 hours ago, Silversong said:

After reading through many of the posts here, I'm coming to realize that other psu's are more highly recommended at the same price point, notably the Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80 which is currently on a good sale on Amazon.ca.

The RM/x is considered slightly better due to a better fan and the protection issues previously on the Seasonics. Might be more if anyone chips in.

 

10 hours ago, Silversong said:

But, and here's the question, is this an alternative unit you would recommend or is there something more recent that's a better option in the same price range? My PC is getting up there, so any psu I buy now will likely be used in a future build, but stlil needs to work in my 2017 HP Omen for now

 

Depends on what's available locally, here at that price/performance usually the RM is the most expensive so you need to weigh that up as some may be nearly as good but much better value etc.

 

Typically I recommend as available locally here:

 

Corsair RM/RMx

Seasonic Focus/Focus Plus

NZXT C Series (Seasonic Focus platform)

Fractal ion+

Bitfenix Whisper M

 

It depends a lot on what's available and pricing/specials

 

Does the current Omen PSU have any weird non standard connectors or anything like that ?

 

 

 

[starry]

Well fuck, I just recommended my friend get the Seasonic FOCUS GX-550 (SSR-550FX) to replace his PSU that was causing blue screens. I hope this is one of the okay ones, Im going to feel really bad if he paid $100 and it didnt fix his issue.

[Silversong]

1 hour ago, artuc said:

Typically I recommend as available locally here:

 

Corsair RM/RMx

Seasonic Focus/Focus Plus

NZXT C Series (Seasonic Focus platform)

Fractal ion+

Bitfenix Whisper M

 

It depends a lot on what's available and pricing/specials

 

Does the current Omen PSU have any weird non standard connectors or anything like that

 

Thank you for the recommendations, artuc!

 

Hm, non-standard connections? Don't think so? I have 5 drives (SATA, M.2, SSDs), 2 ram sticks, the gpu, capture card, maxed out the usb slots (which includes a USB hub) and my audio system connected to the PC.

 

But that's a good point. This started way back when I added 1) the gpu, 2) the M.2 and 3) Windows 10 Fall Creators update back in 2017 (6 months after purchase) and has been getting progressively worse. I also noticed yesterday that the leds on my new keyboard are flickering, but not sure if that's related to the PC or the keyboard just yet as I have yet to flash it. 

 

Today I plan on cleaning the components (blowing out the cat hair and dust), checking seating and looking for any bad connections as well as removing two of the hard drives I don't use.  The power cable to the PC has always been very touchy, so will see if I have another laying around and change that out too. 

 

Thank you again!

[seon123]

4 hours ago, starry said:

PSU that was causing blue screens

If it's bluescreens, it likely wasn't due to the PSU

[starry]

1 hour ago, seon123 said:

If it's bluescreens, it likely wasn't due to the PSU

I can think of plenty of situations before where bluescreens were fixed by replacing the PSU.