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why you SHOULDN'T buy a Seasonic Focus (Plus) (Gold/Platinum)

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Bought the first 750W model of Focus Plus Gold´ as soon as it came available.

Edit: It turned off under load instead of not turning on at all.

 


... but I'm no expert

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Posted · Original PosterOP
7 minutes ago, Tadej Danev said:

So what did you do with Seasonic? RMA or got money back?

i don't have one myself, this is all based of digital research


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Ok, now I'm kind of ticked off. I just (last night) ordered a GX-750 (Seasonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750) after extensive consulting of the PSU guide and review reading, all saying it was A-Tier and a great PSU. After a browser update refreshed the PSU guide it referred me to a newer version of the guide, and that guide also says that the GX is A-Tier. Then I see this thread and it tells me the FOCUS Plus Gold is garbage and I just wasted my money... WTF?!?

Is it good or not?! If it's so much junk why is it on the A-Tier list? I could have easily purchased a Corsair RMx unit (I have a RM550x in another machine), but thought I'd go with a Seasonic this time after hearing so many good things. This PSU is supposed to run my new Ryzen box (with a RX5700XT or similar) which I hope to upgrade to a 16-core in the future, so I need a solid one. Do I refuse delivery (can I do that with NE?)? or is the GX ok now?

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2 hours ago, Jammer7373 said:

or is the GX ok now?

for once... fx is not gx. these things are about the fx.

 

for the gx they shouldn't have the problems, but there are officially no third party results out yet


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RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

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HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

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So Im planning to upgrade my GPU to a RX 5700 but that thread made me unsure if my Focus Plus Gold 550W can handle it. I have a Ryzen 5 3600. Should I change my PSU or will it be fine? I bought it around July 2019 from amazon.

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6 minutes ago, kmangod said:

So Im planning to upgrade my GPU to a RX 5700 but that thread made me unsure if my Focus Plus Gold 550W can handle it. I have a Ryzen 5 3600. Should I change my PSU or will it be fine? I bought it around July 2019 from amazon.

shouldn't get to the point the ripple issues happen, so should be fine


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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

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I bought my Seasonic focus plus gold 550W July of 2018 from Newegg along with a Ryzen 5 1600 and a GTX 980, and my monitor loses signal when my computer is under heavy load. Is it the PSU's fault?

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3 hours ago, francis_d132435 said:

I bought my Seasonic focus plus gold 550W July of 2018 from Newegg along with a Ryzen 5 1600 and a GTX 980, and my monitor loses signal when my computer is under heavy load. Is it the PSU's fault?

if the pc immediately shuts down like you would pull out the power, then it might be

 

if this is the case i'd suggest to contact seasonic for RMA


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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

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On 11/19/2019 at 9:37 PM, LukeSavenije said:

if the pc immediately shuts down like you would pull out the power, then it might be

 

if this is the case i'd suggest to contact seasonic for RMA

The fans and leds are still on, but there is no signal. I initially thought it was a GPU problem.

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1 hour ago, francis_d132435 said:

The fans and leds are still on, but there is no signal. I initially thought it was a GPU problem.

then it's unlikely to be the psu

 

if the protection triggers those leds don't burn, as it cuts power completely


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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 hour ago, Tadej Danev said:

even with new Focus GX series? I have 1060 6GB safe?

theoretically not

 

in reality still no reviews


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RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

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HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

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PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

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On 8/12/2019 at 7:19 PM, LukeSavenije said:

Old revisions (2017-2018) will shut off on some GPUs (970, 1080 ti, vega 64, 2080 ti). it'll will trigger the overpower protection, and will shut down immediately.

 

New revisions (2018-2019) have a bigger headroom, but aren't built for it and start to ripple at the loads where the PSU would shut down at with the older revision

something doesn't add up here 

  • the old 750w version had OPP set at 1014.96W (135.3%) and that is considered a very high set point 
  • the new 750w version that Mufasa reviewed experienced out of spec ripple at 900w (120%) which is not that high considering up to 125% is common 

so either the problem existed in the previous model as well and not just exclusive to the new version  , or Mufasa just had faulty equipment or unit .  120% is a very common setpoint for OPP so the problem(if it exists) wont be solved by setting OPP at a lower value as the device wont be able to handle transient spikes of high end GPU's properly 

 

 


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1 minute ago, JackSparrow35 said:

FOCUS PX-750 (SSR-750PX) 2019 have any problems with overpower protection or ripple?

as far as current testing goes, no


PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//ATX Specification//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//How many watts?//PSU Protections

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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

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PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

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DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

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Ordered on February 12, 2019
Seasonic Focus Plus Series SSR-650FX 650W

 

zero issues with a 3700x and 2070 super

 

Edit: I'm using cable mod cables.

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On 2/4/2020 at 12:25 AM, ShoByte said:

Seasonic Focus Plus Series SSR-650FX 650W

 

zero issues with a 3700x and 2070 super

sounds about right, since the 2070 super has mild transients.


I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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I have a Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro Series EA750G Pro 750W.

Want to upgrade from a Vega 56 to 5700XT.

Should I get a different PSU too?

Don't want to be among the many blank screen users. 

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6 minutes ago, AshamedGanache said:

Don't want to be among the many blank screen users. 

if anything, the vega would've caused those easier than a 5700xt

 

since you already have it, keep it


PSU Tier List 4.0//Motherboard Tier List//Community Standards//ATX Specification//Group Regulation//Topologies and Regulations//How many watts?//PSU Protections

Don't forget to quote or mention me

 

Primary PC:

Spoiler

CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

Spoiler

PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

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So the Riotoro Enigma G2 is based off the Season Focus Plus FX platform, has that been modified in some way so the ripple issues don't occur as badly? Just wondering as the Riotoro is still A category in the tier list.

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