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why you SHOULDN'T buy a Seasonic Focus (Plus) (Gold/Platinum)

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10 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

If he can't ship it back w/o penalty is it worth asking Seasonic for the cables with built-in Caps so at least there's less chance an overpower would deliver gross amounts of ripple?  Then at least the issue can be mitigated pretty well and the user can just pretend it's a normal PSU?

I've got it in atm, since I would have to pay a fee. It's working fine, but would SeaSonic send somethin like that to me in AUS?

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1 hour ago, LogicWeasel said:

asking Seasonic for the cables with built-in Caps

I'm not sure how much it'll help actually, because pceva had a focus plus in testing, which already has built-in caps


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On 8/19/2019 at 2:52 PM, LienusLateTips said:

With the OCP being lifted higher, the units would produce absurd amounts of ripple at load. This can lead to instability and long-term component failure. Then, SeaSonic produced ANOTHER "fix", which was just a cable, with a capacitor and extra shielding, that reduced ripple. However, you would have to contact them to get one, and SeaSonic didn't include them in units.

@LukeSavenije  I'm talking about this.

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7 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

@LukeSavenije  I'm talking about this.

I never said that it actually worked. I didn't know about any testing of the caps at the time of writing that.


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3 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

I never said that it actually worked. I didn't know about any testing of the caps at the time of writing that.

Then you phrased it poorly if you're walking that statement back.  To someone reading it verbatim, and I again quote:

"Then, SeaSonic produced ANOTHER "fix", which was just a cable, with a capacitor and extra shielding, that reduced ripple"  You just said the cable-fix reduced ripple, that would imply a "fix". 

 

No where did you put a disclaimer that said "but don't bother to contact them because the fix was junk and I don't think it really reduced ripple enough"

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16 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

@LukeSavenije  I'm talking about this.

well, again... plus already comes with these


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is it posible that focus gold plus 650 will destroy my pc when my gtx 970 get hungry ? or it will only do black screen . I had few times that black screen while playing .

 

I picked focus cause they have 10 years warranty . Nobody have that .

 

Dont know if i trust evga psu or corsair .

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2 minutes ago, Tomino said:

is it posible that focus gold plus 650 will destroy my pc when my gtx 970 get hungry ? or it will only do black screen . I had few times that black screen while playing

when did you buy it?

 

2 minutes ago, Tomino said:

Nobody have that

almost everyone has that

 

2 minutes ago, Tomino said:

Dont know if i trust evga psu or corsair .

both don't make psus, even seasonic outsources a lot


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i buy my focus  probably september 2018 . Can u show me some psu that have 10 years waranty ? its only 5 years waranty for every 100 eur psu .

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3 minutes ago, Tomino said:

i buy my focus  probably september 2018 . Can u show me some psu that have 10 years waranty ? its only 5 years waranty for every 100 eur psu .

g2, rmx, hx, hxi, rmi, hydro ptm and many others i probably forgot

 

whisper has 7, and 5 is sufficient, as long as it's a good psu.

 

i mean... do you still remember pc power and cooling?


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thanx and what do u mean ? "do you still remember pc power and cooling?" i just want safe pc . I never forgot how my unnamed PSU blow up :D smell was bad. 

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8 minutes ago, Tomino said:

thanx and what do u mean ? "do you still remember pc power and cooling?" i just want safe pc . I never forgot how my unnamed PSU blow up :D smell was bad. 

that some well known companies can go away in a short time

 

and that you shouldn't base your choice off warranty, rather of the quality of the unit


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looks like its vga problem not psu . reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/9zd09s/seasonic_updated_statement_after_the/

 

In comments ppl complain about blackscreen and having evga psu .

 

and only seasonic admit it . other brands are silent. 

 

I find this one i prabably buy Corsair RM650x (2018) . 10 years waranty . 100 euro and its in Tier A+ (Ultra High-end) . Hope its good .

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@LukeSavenije I'm surprised to read that my PSU is so bad. I bought mine in May 2018 and it turns 24/7 on my PC data storage without problem. And my PSU is plugged into my UPS (APC Back-UPS Pro 1200).

 

Before, I bought Corsair VS350 PSU in March 2018 but this PSU got a problem to power my 9 HDDs (Sometimes, one to three hard drives shut down due to lack of power...). My PC never loads more than 130W and 85~100W averge for all days (I checked on my UPS display). When I changed from Corsair VS350 to Seasonic Focus Plus 650 Gold for to have more HDD power cables and it powers perfect my 9 HDDs without problem.

 

And now, do I have to change my Seasonic Focus Gold for an other PSU even if mine works well ?


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22 minutes ago, X-System said:

bought mine in May 2018 and it turns 24/7 on my PC data storage without problem.

Personal experiences don't matter with a PSU since PSUs are so inconsistent. Hell, you could probably find someone who says their EVGA N1 has lasted them 3 years under 24/7 use. Doesn't make that unit a good one. Then again, you can also find another person who says their N1 blew up. It's why these kind of statements are irrelevant.

 

24 minutes ago, X-System said:

And now, do I have to change my Seasonic Focus Gold for an other PSU even if mine works well ?

If you already have the focus, there's little sense of buying a new PSU unless you want peace of mind, I guess.


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25 minutes ago, X-System said:

And now, do I have to change my Seasonic Focus Gold for an other PSU even if mine works well ?

as your pc doesn't even come close to the overloading pceva did, no


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Posted · Original PosterOP
8 minutes ago, Tadej Danev said:

new Seasonic Focux GX-series is OK?

we don't really know for sure yet


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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, Tadej Danev said:

they said they fixed some problems old series had?

yes

 

but there's no third party testing out yet, and seasonic in general is a bit skeptical about overloading PSUs


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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

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PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

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Posted · Original PosterOP
33 minutes ago, Tadej Danev said:

Weird no, they're supposed to be great PSU company with 10 and more yrs in warranty hehe.....

warranty says nothing, and honestly half of it is made by RSY. never judge per company or oem, judge per model


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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

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PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

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DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

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1 hour ago, Tadej Danev said:

RSY? Not sure who that is :) Is this problem only for better GPu's?

Shenzhen Ruishengyuan, a chinese psu manufacturer

 

the problem is when you load up the psu to 120% of it's advertised wattage for the second revision problems


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Primary PC:

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CPU: I5-8600k 5.0ghz

GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming

RAM: 2x8 3333 mhz DDR4 Trident Z

MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC

HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint HD103SI

SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB (modified)

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650

 

Consoles:

Spoiler

PS4 Slim Glacier White 500 GB

PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 GB

PS3 Super Slim 500 GB

PS2 OG

Xbox OG

DS Lite White

DS Lite Black/blue

DS Lite Blue

DSI XL Orange

Gameboy Advanced Color

PS Vita v2

Wii

 

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