DayZ will be banned from Australia after it was refused a rating

[matrix07012]

Australia itself is just a big shitpost

[mr moose]

7 minutes ago, Thaldor said:

Leaving psychology behind, that is still a huge rift in scales of Grand Canyon. DayZ isn't even close to be violent game and it gets banned while I haven't heard Australia banning any movies in years. Like I can name a lot of games that are way more violent and harmful than DayZ in seconds but with movies Saws go quite a lot to the top category with gore, there is movies with a lot more gore than in Saws but they start to go silly with their content.

I just would like to imagine IARC meeting about Dayz going like:

"Is there violence?"
"Yes, but it's mostly against zombies and it's not really that bad"

"Anything else?"

"There's mention that there might be cannabis that can be used as medicine"
"BAN THAT SHIT RIGHT NOW!!!  BAN IT!!!"

"It's not really that bad, we gave American Psycho and Saw movies just R18+ rating and they are much worse"
"IT'S A VIDEO GAME! BAN THAT SHIT FROM THIS ISLAND LIKE ISLAND BANS TRAVELING WHEN SOMEONE SNEEZES IN AFRICA!"

 

And apparently that is quite close what really happened... Saló, or the 120 Days of Sodom isn't currently banned in Australia because "extra content on the DVD/BR release gives it context", like what? You literally allow selling pedo-scat-sadistic-porn movie and then ban a game that isn't even in the same realms than that movie (in sense that if I would need to choose between letting my kid play DayZ or watch Saló, I would fucking glue my kid to the PC chair, force feed it RedBull and Doritos and make it the youngest ever to pull out weekender playing only bad games than let him watch Saló because that's how "bad" Saló is). Cannibal Holocaust is also not banned in Australia today, and not really that many movies are banned in Australia today no matter how brutal, offensive, violent or just lewd they are, but games, tsk tsk tsk, better not hit that zombie with an axe, you might get banned.

 

They refused classification because it had the use of illicit drugs as a reward in it. That is basically an automatic refusal of classification.  This is not really a comparison of violence, but the fact it had one of the trigger activities.      As far as I know the board do not look at what other people say or what work has been done on the side, they don't even look at pre release work.  It is all based of whatever the classification seeker presented to them and told them.     I do not understand why there are claims that marijuana isn't in the game but is the reason the the game was refused.    I need more clarification on that.

[Yeroh]

Is DayZ even relevant at all at this point?

 

I mean, I used to love it back in the mod days, but ever since they switched over to the standalone release, it's been a complete joke. They keep implementing weird mechanics no-one ever asked for while still lacking behind the feature set of early versions of the mod.

[EarthWormJM2]

..BUT GTAV is perfectly ok in Australia. smh...

[Fire2box]

Is Farcry 3 and GTA:SA not banned there given both have story missions where you burn down weed farms and get high as a result? 

 

 

[TechyBen]

10 hours ago, Yeroh said:

Is DayZ even relevant at all at this point?

 

I mean, I used to love it back in the mod days, but ever since they switched over to the standalone release, it's been a complete joke. They keep implementing weird mechanics no-one ever asked for while still lacking behind the feature set of early versions of the mod.

Basically 95% of games ever.

[mr moose]

3 hours ago, EarthWormJM2 said:

..BUT GTAV is perfectly ok in Australia. smh...

I think the difference is in GTAV there are no rewards or benefits from the drug use.  

[Neft]

Eh, whatever, its been proven marijuana has a ton of real medical applications/uses be it from smoking it, eating it or even ingesting the oils, in the US everyone is slowly legalizing it for medical use however you dont want a weed farm near your house, its one of the foulest smelling farms possible.

 

if the island of inmates wants to ban DayZ over a potential idea the devs had and never fully implemented let them do it, unless they start monitoring your net history the ban won't work itll just put peoples minds at ease, ever hear the old saying "locks only keep honest people out" ? well same thing with bans, people that are honest wont violate it or will be less likely to violate it due to the fact its banned, however others like myself will sit back laugh and begin the torrent or use a VPN which if im not mistaken most of the island inmates use a VPN anyways because their net is literal trash and or ban policies on other things.

 

that sound about right?

[SpookyCitrus]

On 8/10/2019 at 12:01 AM, Pintend said:

I'd like to point out that DayZ is being banned for something that was referenced in game files 2 years ago and it isn't even added to the game yet (and probably never will be):

 

 

It has actually been added to the game, most modded servers use it as a trade item that you can run back and forth across the map for money. 

[Neft]

11 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

It has actually been added to the game, most modded servers use it as a trade item that you can run back and forth across the map for money. 

being in the files and being added are two different things entirely, if its not there in a UNMODDED BASE GAME SERVER then it was NEVER FULLY ADDED BY THE DEVS, mods can do a lot of things hell i had a mod on one game that had me killing fire breathing ponys instead of dragons.

 

the files for death knight were in hearthstone literally before it fully released but to my knowledge wasnt added untill way after or still hasnt been, idk i dont play HS anymore

[SpookyCitrus]

17 minutes ago, Neft said:

being in the files and being added are two different things entirely, if its not there in a UNMODDED BASE GAME SERVER then it was NEVER FULLY ADDED BY THE DEVS, mods can do a lot of things hell i had a mod on one game that had me killing fire breathing ponys instead of dragons.

 

the files for death knight were in hearthstone literally before it fully released but to my knowledge wasnt added untill way after or still hasnt been, idk i dont play HS anymore

The reason modded servers are able to use it is because it is a completed asset in the game files it's not like it's a modded in model or is not in the game files, it was already completed by the Devs the modded servers just have it in use. I doubt the ratings board played modded servers. DayZ doesn't really have anything that's super bad, I'd say it would be a T or M rated game. There is no nudity, not even a lot blood, minor language in some of the character grunts. Everything that would cause DayZ to be banned or unrated I feel is more with the multiplayer aspect because from personal experience the voice chat and RP Situations get uber fucked. I'm not trying to be that guy because I am a member of the DayZ community but a lot of the bad stuff that happens in DayZ can be contributed to the players. The game itself is a canvas that the players paint their stories on, some are Bob Ross others are Van Gogh. And honestly the Australian ratings board just has a stick up their asses.

[Drak3]

50 minutes ago, Neft said:

its been proven marijuana has a ton of real medical applications/uses be it from smoking it, eating it or even ingesting the oils

Not really. It has *some* medicinal value. Not near as much as people think.

 

And even then, it's not well studied what the negatives are. It has been linked to psychosis though.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/03/19/704948217/daily-marijuana-use-and-highly-potent-weed-linked-to-psychosis

 

[Neft]

16 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

The reason modded servers are able to use it is because it is a completed asset in the game files it's not like it's a modded in model or is not in the game files, it was already completed by the Devs the modded servers just have it in use. I doubt the ratings board played modded servers. DayZ doesn't really have anything that's super bad, I'd say it would be a T or M rated game. There is no nudity, not even a lot blood, minor language in some of the character grunts. Everything that would cause DayZ to be banned or unrated I feel is more with the multiplayer aspect because from personal experience the voice chat and RP Situations get uber fucked. I'm not trying to be that guy because I am a member of the DayZ community but a lot of the bad stuff that happens in DayZ can be contributed to the players. The game itself is a canvas that the players paint their stories on, some are Bob Ross others are Van Gogh. And honestly the Australian ratings board just has a stick up their asses.

 

again can it be found normally without mods? seriously can you find it in a bottle, on a farm, in a bag etc..?

 

lots of times devs will add things, follow through on making it, then decide its a bad idea or its to controversial and never fully add it, then user A finds said file and makes a mod that calls on it since hey its a finished file its just not in use.

 

they dont usually delete things just incase they decide to use it or re-brand it as something else later, on runescape for example theres a hidden recipe that will get you an item thats used in a quest it involves weed, like literal weeds, a pot used for holding flour and a tinderbox if im not mistaken and the animation is a little risky.

 

so if australias going to ban DayZ they should also ban Runescape, GTA V and tons of others for having potential drug references as well, between censorships bans and all sorts of other things people are just getting ridiculous with it.

 

i remember a game i played awhile ago think it was called earthworm jim his catch phrase for a few things was literally "its time to open a can of whoop ass" and it was directed at 10+ iirc or maybe it was the game with the talking lizard idk it was awhile back, my point if that released now itd likely be tagged 17+

[SpookyCitrus]

18 minutes ago, Neft said:

 

again can it be found normally without mods? seriously can you find it in a bottle, on a farm, in a bag etc..?

 

lots of times devs will add things, follow through on making it, then decide its a bad idea or its to controversial and never fully add it, then user A finds said file and makes a mod that calls on it since hey its a finished file its just not in use.

 

they dont usually delete things just incase they decide to use it or re-brand it as something else later, on runescape for example theres a hidden recipe that will get you an item thats used in a quest it involves weed, like literal weeds, a pot used for holding flour and a tinderbox if im not mistaken and the animation is a little risky.

 

so if australias going to ban DayZ they should also ban Runescape, GTA V and tons of others for having potential drug references as well, between censorships bans and all sorts of other things people are just getting ridiculous with it.

 

i remember a game i played awhile ago think it was called earthworm jim his catch phrase for a few things was literally "its time to open a can of whoop ass" and it was directed at 10+ iirc or maybe it was the game with the talking lizard idk it was awhile back, my point if that released now itd likely be tagged 17+

Ok I don't think you got what I said in my first post, I did not say it was why it was banned... I just said that it is in the game on modded servers. I have not once said the game was banned for the cannabis being in the game files. Nor am I arguing with you about it not being in official servers. I know it was implemented by modders and not the devs I only said it was in the game on modded servers in response to the post about it only being in the files.  Maybe I worded it wrong but I'm positive I have not said anything about the devs implementing it or that's why it is being banned, pretty sure I have said the opposite.

[mr moose]

1 hour ago, Neft said:

 

again can it be found normally without mods? seriously can you find it in a bottle, on a farm, in a bag etc..?

 

lots of times devs will add things, follow through on making it, then decide its a bad idea or its to controversial and never fully add it, then user A finds said file and makes a mod that calls on it since hey its a finished file its just not in use.

 

they dont usually delete things just incase they decide to use it or re-brand it as something else later, on runescape for example theres a hidden recipe that will get you an item thats used in a quest it involves weed, like literal weeds, a pot used for holding flour and a tinderbox if im not mistaken and the animation is a little risky.

 

so if australias going to ban DayZ they should also ban Runescape, GTA V and tons of others for having potential drug references as well, between censorships bans and all sorts of other things people are just getting ridiculous with it.

 

i remember a game i played awhile ago think it was called earthworm jim his catch phrase for a few things was literally "its time to open a can of whoop ass" and it was directed at 10+ iirc or maybe it was the game with the talking lizard idk it was awhile back, my point if that released now itd likely be tagged 17+

 

 

It doesn't matter about any of that.  The classification board only classifies that which has been presented to it,  ergo either there is an error or the game they were given for review contained illicit drug use as a reward for game play.  That is an automatic refused classification. 

 

there is also the difference between drug themes and use in general (which are present in a lot of Aussie games), and using drugs to further gameplay.  That is where they draw the line.

 

That is why GTAV, farcry etc are all rated and available. 

[SpookyCitrus]

14 hours ago, mr moose said:

 

 

It doesn't matter about any of that.  The classification board only classifies that which has been presented to it,  ergo either there is an error or the game they were given for review contained illicit drug use as a reward for game play.  That is an automatic refused classification. 

 

there is also the difference between drug themes and use in general (which are present in a lot of Aussie games), and using drugs to further gameplay.  That is where they draw the line.

 

That is why GTAV, farcry etc are all rated and available. 

With the marijuana not actually being usable or even available in the main game, the only other "drugs" are morphine, epinephrine, and the other medical supplies. Could it be possible they considered loading yourself up with morphine in order fix broken limbs or after getting shot illegal drug use to further gameplay?

[mr moose]

4 hours ago, SpookyCitrus said:

With the marijuana not actually being usable or even available in the main game, the only other "drugs" are morphine, epinephrine, and the other medical supplies. Could it be possible they considered loading yourself up with morphine in order fix broken limbs or after getting shot illegal drug use to further gameplay?

 

Not impossible but also not very likely as they have let many other games through on that.    The classification board tend to be right on the fringe with what they let through (let go on a technicality as opposed to what they refuse on a technicality).  That is why GTAV got classified even though it has lots of drugs, taking them doesn't give you any game rewards (never played it, going of what I have read).    Given illicit drug use is the reason they refused dayz, I would like to see what the developer presented for classification. 

 

It is also possible that the board has changed and they are a little more strict, although historically the last board denied southpark and GTA4 requiring them to release a modified version for sale in Australia. So whilst possible also not likely a major factor.