LTT Official Folding Month 2019!!!

[shaz2sxy]

2 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

Just all casual like? Dang.

I was just gonna say that lol 

[TVwazhere]

25 minutes ago, Corrupt_Liberty said:

You aren't the only one.  I'd love to find me another 1080 ti or two.  But the wallet 'tis thin. 

You dont need any more cards

[Gorgon]

16 hours ago, Gerowen said:

Had that same issue today with a work unit.  Only the second one I've encountered so far, but every once in a while it seems to find a work unit that it just doesn't like, but rather than skipping it after X number of failed attempts, it just keeps on trying and failing.

 

Here's the last little bit of the log from the previous failed work unit.  The "clean exit" line at the bottom is from when I manually stopped the service, not from that work unit succeeding.

 

 

It's not the end of the world, the solution seems to be to just stop the service, delete the /var/lib/fahclient/work folder and then restart the service so it's forced to start fresh, but it's still kinda strange that FAH isn't catching these itself.  I've written a script to make "fixing" the issue a little faster; I may poke around and see if there's some way I can automate a detection of a failure like this that launches my cleanup script automatically instead of relying on me to check in on it every now and then and do it manually.

 

Welcome to the fold.

 

Im seeing messages about reducing the CPU cores from 5 to 4. F@H doesn’t like some prime numbers of cores so you might want to manually reduce the cores to 4 though I doubt this is at the root of your issue.

 

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=234707 might solve this

[Stormseeker9]

2 hours ago, GrockleTD said:

Alas, I have been out-funded

I'm only running a single 2070 non super.

Switched CPU folding off. (Noticed that completed WU's are about half of what it was with CPU folding)

[GrockleTD]

17 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

I'm only running a single 2070 non super.

Switched CPU folding off. (Noticed that completed WU's are about half of what it was with CPU folding)

Might try that with my secondary rig then

[Corrupt_Liberty]

1 hour ago, TVwazhere said:

You dont need any more cards

But I have room for more cards.  They wouldn't put the slots there of they didn't want me to use them.  

[Spotty]

2 minutes ago, Corrupt_Liberty said:

But I have room for more cards.  They wouldn't put the slots there of they didn't want me to use them.  

Inb4 graphic card manufacturers start making graphics cards that are just the coolers and RGB lighting without a GPU die on it just to fill the slots like the fake RAM sticks.

[GrockleTD]

3 minutes ago, Corrupt_Liberty said:

But I have room for more cards.  They wouldn't put the slots there of they didn't want me to use them.  

X to doubt

[GrockleTD]

1 minute ago, Spotty said:

Inb4 graphic card manufacturers start making graphics cards that are just the coolers and RGB lighting without a GPU die on it just to fill the slots like the fake RAM sticks.

Ha, stonks.

[Corrupt_Liberty]

2 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Inb4 graphic card manufacturers start making graphics cards that are just the coolers and RGB lighting without a GPU die on it just to fill the slots like the fake RAM sticks.

If they do this without bringing back quad sli I will riot. 

[Gorgon]

31 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

Might try that with my secondary rig then

Most people feel that CPU folding is not worth the extra heat for very little gain compared to GPUs. I tend to use my CPUs for BOINC and my GPUs for folding but you have to have good airflow as you don’t want the heat produced from your CPU increasing your GPU’s temperature causing it to not boost as high.

 

During Folding competitions however, all bets are off, all fans are at full, overclocks maxed and the CPUs are thrown into the fray to eek out the most points possible.

[GrockleTD]

@Gorgon I was more wondering if it would help my GPU PPD enough to offset the very small amount produced by my secondary rigs CPU

[Gorgon]

11 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

@Gorgon I was more wondering if it would help my GPU PPD enough to offset the very small amount produced by my secondary rigs CPU

Likely only if the case is airflow constrained which you’d see GPU temps in the 80s at which point the boost algorithm will start to really down Clock the GPU.

 

Try it both ways and check the GPU temperature and Shader clocks in MSI afterburner, EVGA Precision Boost or HWinfo64.

[shaz2sxy]

Woop Woop

 

Hit 25 Million

 

[Rusted]

I had my GPU fan at 75% and core +100Mhz, that resulted boost clock of little shy of 1900Mhz. Increasing the fan to 85% did drop my temps few degrees but that resulted boost clock of 1949Mhz with the same +100Mhz core settings. Current GPU temp is around 65C, Nvidia doesn't report the hot spot temp so some part of the GPU might be now cool enough for higher boost clock. Weird thing this GPU boost 3.0.

 

[Stormseeker9]

3 hours ago, Gorgon said:

Most people feel that CPU folding is not worth the extra heat for very little gain compared to GPUs. I tend to use my CPUs for BOINC and my GPUs for folding but you have to have good airflow as you don’t want the heat produced from your CPU increasing your GPU’s temperature causing it to not boost as high.

 

During Folding competitions however, all bets are off, all fans are at full, overclocks maxed and the CPUs are thrown into the fray to eek out the most points possible.

Nevermind. Completely off topic

[Stormseeker9]

That trend line tho  (yes, it’s hand drawn, not perfect)

Go team LTT 

[Zando_]

4 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

That trend line tho  (yes, it’s hand drawn, not perfect)

Go team LTT 

Awwww hell yeah bois!

@LinusTech extreme folding rig with the largest amount of 1660 Tis or 2060s (best PPD/$ and very good if not the best PPD/power consumption) you can attach to a single mobo without bottlenecking them due to lack of PCIe lanes when? 

[LavenderPhantom78139]

Just ordered a computer with a 1660 and an r7 3700x for less than 800 with a good mobo 32gb of ram and a whole bunch of other goodies. I should get it before folding month. Ill be running that a 980 a 1060 3gb and a 1050ti and ill probably fold on 14 threads of my 3700x. I wont use my i5 3570 cpus though. Horrible ppw

[LavenderPhantom78139]

If anyone wants an extra 650ti to fold on message me. Ill only charge postage. Id run it but i dont have enough pcie slots. Shouldnt be more than 7 dollars if shipped in the us. 

[Favebook]

Does anyone know what the performance difference is for x1, x4, x8 and x16 lanes? I know that on x1(usually with PCIe Risers) it is not worth folding, but what about x8 and x4? I plan on building folding rig(s) but I do not know if I should go for few systems or one high-end system with 3-4 GPU's. Does anyone have a perfect solution for me? 

Also, I'd like to know what you guys(@catawalks, @Cbwgoose, @miker07, @GOTSpectrum, @Den-Fi, @Gorgon) are using(full setups: GPU/Mobo/CPU).

 

 

1 hour ago, LavenderPhantom78139 said:

If anyone wants an extra 650ti to fold on message me. Ill only charge postage. Id run it but i dont have enough pcie slots. Shouldnt be more than 7 dollars if shipped in the us. 

I'd use it for folding since I have a few PCIe slots and lanes open but I do not think it is worth for you to send it to Serbia. 

[LavenderPhantom78139]

1 hour ago, Favebook said:

 

I'd use it for folding since I have a few PCIe slots and lanes open but I do not think it is worth for you to send it to Serbia. 

probably not lol. Its only about a 45k ppd card i think and it uses damn near 100 watts. Its worse than ryzen third gen cpu folding ppw

[GOTSpectrum]

3 hours ago, Favebook said:

Does anyone know what the performance difference is for x1, x4, x8 and x16 lanes? I know that on x1(usually with PCIe Risers) it is not worth folding, but what about x8 and x4? I plan on building folding rig(s) but I do not know if I should go for few systems or one high-end system with 3-4 GPU's. Does anyone have a perfect solution for me? 

Also, I'd like to know what you guys(@catawalks, @Cbwgoose, @miker07, @GOTSpectrum, @Den-Fi, @Gorgon) are using(full setups: GPU/Mobo/CPU).

 

 

I'd use it for folding since I have a few PCIe slots and lanes open but I do not think it is worth for you to send it to Serbia. 

Check out my sig for my main.

 

Secondary system:

 

5960x

ROG rampage V Extreme

4x4gb (quad channel) data ddr3 2666mhz

Gtx 1080 FE (Won last folding month)

Gtx 980 ti palit super Jetstream

Gtx 980 FE

 

[Gorgon]

3 hours ago, Favebook said:

Does anyone know what the performance difference is for x1, x4, x8 and x16 lanes? I know that on x1(usually with PCIe Risers) it is not worth folding, but what about x8 and x4? I plan on building folding rig(s) but I do not know if I should go for few systems or one high-end system with 3-4 GPU's. Does anyone have a perfect solution for me? 

Also, I'd like to know what you guys(@catawalks, @Cbwgoose, @miker07, @GOTSpectrum, @Den-Fi, @Gorgon) are using(full setups: GPU/Mobo/CPU).

 

 

I'd use it for folding since I have a few PCIe slots and lanes open but I do not think it is worth for you to send it to Serbia. 

HEDT (x299 etc) are just not worth it. The boards and CPUs are more expensive and you start getting into expensive power supplies and having to fart around with esoteric eATX cases and PCIe riser cables.

 

The least expensive sli-capable x370, x470, z170, z370 or z390 motherboard. This gives you two PCIe x16 at x8/x8.

A 650W Gold power supply as they’re not much more than a Bronze at this price point and 650W lets you run up to 2 RTX 2070s with a bit to spare.

a 2c/4t processor with 16 PCIe3 lanes off the CPU (i.e not AMD with APU) Intel Pentium Gold 5400 or 5500 or AMD 1200, 1600, 1700, whatever is cheapest and at least 1.9GHz

a single stick of DDR4-2400 you don’t need lots of memory or memory bandwidth.

2 NVidia 1660Ti or RTX 2060 (Supers) (Best bang for the buck in Canada currently)

a M.2 SATA Disk so no cable clutter

Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Desktop

A box to put it in or a piece of plywood

110 or 140mm fans

 

Recently I’ve been getting 2700 and 2700x CPUs and running BOINC on the unused threads as these are found deeply discounted.

 

If money were no object I’d get a x299 with 4 PCIe slots and 3 M.2, a mining chassis, a 2920x, couple of 1000W power supplies and 3 x Powered M.2 to PCIe3 x4 adapters and 4 PCIe extenders and 7 cards, 4 x 2070 or 2080 Supers and 3 x 2060 Supers. PCIe3 x4 under Linux is sufficient to drive a 2080Ti with little to no loss in performance.

[sazrocks]

The 1920x is actually 199 on amazon right now, so it looks like a pretty good choice for anyone looking for a lot of pcie lanes for (relatively) cheap.