LTT Official Folding Month 2019!!!

[GOTSpectrum]

1 hour ago, Rusted said:

There might be those too, but some might have registered to the event and only folded couple WUs and now wait for the event. I think that these users are still counted as active at stats.

 

Also if you go with GPU folding only getting 10WUs might take some time even if you fold 24/7. I have got some fun WUs that take over 5 hours with gtx 1070, so if you get these at start it will take some time.

 

And I know from last event that there are some serious folding power to be expected as top spot on the list is at stake

 

To anybody wondering if they should upgrade:

It's ok, you can click that buy button for that card. But wait you can get two or more with same shipping cost.

The Linus techtips forum way of thinking 

I'm hopeful that I will have my rtx 2060 here before the start of the event, but I'm not expecting much of an increase in PPD as it's more of an efficiency upgrades. 

 

Plus the 1070ti system I have folding atm will need to go back to the owner at some point.

 

It's going to be fun to see though to say the least.

[mattheginger]

1 hour ago, yaboistar said:

lmao i know how the finish button works, i mean that i want to specify a certain time that the machine hits finish on, and i want the ability for the machine to auto-shutdown when all wu's are finished and sent

Yeah I've always thought for some people with hot running laptops, or people who are super concious of their power bill, an 'off timer' type thing would be great.

 

I.e. you could just tell it to fold for 2-4 hours then stop (so you don't need to remember to stop it yourself).

[GOTSpectrum]

4 minutes ago, mattheginger said:

Yeah I've always thought for some people with hot running laptops, or people who are super concious of their power bill, an 'off timer' type thing would be great.

 

I.e. you could just tell it to fold for 2-4 hours then stop (so you don't need to remember to stop it yourself).

I'm sure you can tell the client to finish with a script of some form..

 

@leadeater any input here?

[Rusted]

12 minutes ago, mattheginger said:

Yeah I've always thought for some people with hot running laptops, or people who are super concious of their power bill, an 'off timer' type thing would be great.

 

I.e. you could just tell it to fold for 2-4 hours then stop (so you don't need to remember to stop it yourself).

Shutdown after completing WU, it would be nice feature. If this kind of feature ever gets added it would be nice if it would also has a timer to let your pc to cool down.

[Spakes]

1 hour ago, Rusted said:

Shutdown after completing WU, it would be nice feature. If this kind of feature ever gets added it would be nice if it would also has a timer to let your pc to cool down.

Or monitor temps to know when to back off a bit and not hit CPU and GPU so hard with tasks.

[Rusted]

1 hour ago, Spakes said:

Or monitor temps to know when to back off a bit and not hit CPU and GPU so hard with tasks.

I think there is tmax setting that will stop folding on nvidia gpu, if it gets above set temp. Then there's a setting for a time to wait it to cool, but I haven't used them can't tell if it works.

 

But in general I have understood that cpu and gpus try to do their power management themselves. But with FAH workloads they might struggling as most cases the systems we use aren't designed to be at 100% load 24/7. So it may be necessary to manually adjust clocks and voltages.

[Spakes]

1 minute ago, Rusted said:

I think there is tmax setting that will stop folding on nvidia gpu, if it gets above set temp. Then there's a setting for a time to wait it to cool, but I haven't used them can't tell if it works.

 

But in general I have understood that cpu and gpus try to do their power management themselves. But with FAH workloads they might struggling as most cases the systems we use aren't designed to be at 100% load 24/7. So it may be necessary to manually adjust clocks and voltages.

Which I described as the methods to do folding on laptops 24/7. Windows still has some control over P-states, you know... But it will be like... 75-80% from their full potentian, tbh.

[Gorgon]

11 hours ago, yaboistar said:

there are some options i'd like, such as shutting down after WU's finish and finishing after a certain time

There are command-line options to finish after X number of Work Units as well which might be useful for people who want to fold overnight.

 

Try running “FAHClient /?” from a command prompt.

 

Using the Windows Scheduler and the command line switches should give you lots of knobs to tweak.

[Gorgon]

2 hours ago, Spakes said:

Which I described as the methods to do folding on laptops 24/7. Windows still has some control over P-states, you know... But it will be like... 75-80% from their full potentian, tbh.

I haven’t had a laptop with a decent GPU to play with but I have seen posts where people have raised the bottom rear of the laptop to improve airflow or even run it opened 45 degrees upside down in an “A” configuration as well as the usual methods of changing the Power Plan to “Performance” etc.

 

My “hottest” rig is a Fractal Core 1100 mid tower chassis with a GTX 1060 6GB short board with a Noctua 120mm iPPC 2000rpm front intake, a 3200 rpm 92mm rear exhaust and a slim 15mm 120mm side exhaust with a Noctua NF-A1 fan controller and a Noctua LNA connected to the front intake to quiet it down a bit. This system will just barely run at full power on the GPU keeping the GPU in the mid 70s.

 

In most single GPU rigs the GPU Boost algorithms do an adequate job of controlling the temperature but in a chassis with poor airflow sometimes removing the side panel will help when folding full-tilt.

 

With two GPUs I’ve found manually increasing the fan speed an extra 10% or so on the lower GPU will help the upper GPU from getting too hot and boosting down as much.

 

I’ve gotten in the habit of removing all the slot covers at the rear of rigs to try and force more hot air out the rear by the GPUs.

[Gorgon]

6 hours ago, GOTSpectrum said:

I'm hopeful that I will have my rtx 2060 here before the start of the event, but I'm not expecting much of an increase in PPD as it's more of an efficiency upgrades. ...

Nice.

[Spakes]

Gotta love that 666 figure...

[Spakes]

6 hours ago, Gorgon said:

I haven’t had a laptop with a decent GPU to play with but I have seen posts where people have raised the bottom rear of the laptop to improve airflow or even run it opened 45 degrees upside down in an “A” configuration as well as the usual methods of changing the Power Plan to “Performance” etc.

 

My “hottest” rig is a Fractal Core 1100 mid tower chassis with a GTX 1060 6GB short board with a Noctua 120mm iPPC 2000rpm front intake, a 3200 rpm 92mm rear exhaust and a slim 15mm 120mm side exhaust with a Noctua NF-A1 fan controller and a Noctua LNA connected to the front intake to quiet it down a bit. This system will just barely run at full power on the GPU keeping the GPU in the mid 70s.

 

In most single GPU rigs the GPU Boost algorithms do an adequate job of controlling the temperature but in a chassis with poor airflow sometimes removing the side panel will help when folding full-tilt.

 

With two GPUs I’ve found manually increasing the fan speed an extra 10% or so on the lower GPU will help the upper GPU from getting too hot and boosting down as much.

 

I’ve gotten in the habit of removing all the slot covers at the rear of rigs to try and force more hot air out the rear by the GPUs.

You don't want "Perfomance" power plan on laptop, trust me... Miners even on PC hardware undervolt and downclock their GPUs...

[Spakes]

Hey, 70 billion points... How about that?

[Erudito]

This is weird. My processor was 2 hours away from completing a work unit much like the graphics card. I had to pause it for a bit a little over two hours ago. Ten minutes after pausing it I unpaused and it still showed the same estimate. 10 minutes after that, I check on the progress and the processor goes to 12 HOURS on its estimate, and is gaining percentage at a much slower rate. Even the CPU percentage on Task Manager which would normally be over 90% while folding as I watch videos and study is now at 24%. Even the Ryzen Master monitoring utility is showing less core use. And no, I didn't change it from Medium to Light. The settings have been on medium the whole time.

 

When my graphics card is done with its work unit, I will try restarting my computer. Tried changing it from Medium to Full and back to see if a setting change would undo the issue but no go.

 

 

 

[Erudito]

Welp, nevermind. The problem just sort of went away on its own.

[Erudito]

And nevermind that nevermind. I think this recurring problem needs to be addressed.

It did stop after 3 minutes and is showing the regular ETA now, but that is aggravating.

[McAztec]

10 minutes ago, Erudito said:

And nevermind that nevermind. I think this recurring problem needs to be addressed.

It did stop after 3 minutes and is showing the regular ETA now, but that is aggravating.

As many mentioned, I'd also reccomend using the Advanced Control, you can open it by going to your hidden incons (in taskbar, by the network symbol usually) then finding the folding client logo in the menu that opens, right click and advanced control, or search for it in the Start Menu as others suggested. There are plenty of details you won't need in there, granted, so the GUI is a bit more crowded, but it gives you more control. I too had this issue you described, but only on my laptop, which is quite odd, but at least it solved itself.

[Erudito]

4 minutes ago, McAztec said:

As many mentioned, I'd also reccomend using the Advanced Control, you can open it by going to your hidden incons (in taskbar, by the network symbol usually) then finding the folding client logo in the menu that opens, right click and advanced control, or search for it in the Start Menu as others suggested. There are plenty of details you won't need in there, granted, so the GUI is a bit more crowded, but it gives you more control. I too had this issue you described, but only on my laptop, which is quite odd, but at least it solved itself.

I don't know where to find the setting in advanced control that stops this from happening.

[leadeater]

1 hour ago, Erudito said:

I don't know where to find the setting in advanced control that stops this from happening.

Just don't use the web client for performance reporting, it's just completely terrible for it. Same goes for the advanced client for that matter. Just use those and Task Manager to make sure jobs are actually running and using system resources then use EOC website to track your actual performance, that you can rely on to be accurate. Your profile page on the Folding at Home website can be used to, just don't use the local web control client or advance client for that.

 

Above is what you should look at (on EOC)

[Rusted]

1 hour ago, Erudito said:

I don't know where to find the setting in advanced control that stops this from happening.

It's called FAHcontrol, try the search in start menu. 

 

Like @leadeater pointed out EOC website is a good place to see your stats.

[BleakMaker]

Spoiler

Well @johnsdre It was a battle I was going to loose I even tried to get my friends to fold but they decided to fold under their own name.

Congrats to my only threat!

[GOTSpectrum]

So the usual update guys, 

 

the number of active folders for team LTT has decreased to 1,034,

 

but production is up to 138M PPD over the last 24 hours. 

 

We have 1,205 signed up for the event so far. 

 

Happy folding everyone!!!

 

[FMAranda]

Hi! How do I make sure I'm signed up?

[GOTSpectrum]

4 minutes ago, FMAranda said:

Hi! How do I make sure I'm signed up?

If you message me your folding and forum name I can check the datasheet and let you know. 

[GOTSpectrum]

Have to say guys, I'm not liking this heatwave we have at all...

 

35C we have had today, which for you guys in hotter countries may not see mall that hot, you have to remember AC isnt really a thing here ,and our houses are built to keep heat in, not out.