LTT Official Folding Month 2019!!!

[shaz2sxy]

10 minutes ago, Nathans nonsense said:

does anyone know how to get a finished WU to upload, my internet got cut out and now there's a finished one just sitting around

i just quit the client and start it again

[shaz2sxy]

only 1,576,882 points today due to loss of internet last night

 

hopefully can still stick in top 30

[Beowulff83]

50 minutes ago, Gorgon said:

BAM! - well someone named mackerel made over 346 million points yesterday

                                          Holy             

[GOTSpectrum]

Time for some ranky-doodles!

 

 

[mattheginger]

 

@shaz2sxy, I intend to claw your imminent points lead back off you at some time in the future... 

 

[azmariadei]

8 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

I've ran SLI, OCed 1080s and an OCed 8600K off a 650W PSU (EVGA G3) just fine. Unless they have a really hungry CPU, a 2060 and 590 should be fine on that PSU. Though like you said, depends on the model. 

here's where I flex that I may or may not be an idiot but anyways I'm running an EVGA 1600W T2 in my folding rig so defo on the better quality end of EVGA PSUs

I also have a G3, but it only has 3 PCI-E headers. Also, my 8086K running at 5.2GHz is quite hungry, topping out at what's reported as 158W, but commonly using 35-45W while folding. Living out in the country where we have all sorts of power issues though, I'm worried about my UPS as well. I tried folding with both my GPU and with my 2600K (running embedded graphics and linux) in my server and it said NOPE NOT TODAY and shut off so now my server just does its thing and holds my data and syncs it to the cloud for me.

 

I might have to figure out a way to get it into my HTPC soon - it'll do a lot of good with my 2400G.

[Ithanul]

Oh yeah, three days off this weekend.  And, weather is staying below 90F lately (still mid to high 80Fs).  So, 2nd rig will be brought up this weekend.

 

So glad I got my Switch and Xbox One X to play games in the mean time.  Almost done with Link's Awakening at this rate.

[Zando_]

9 minutes ago, azmariadei said:

I also have a G3, but it only has 3 PCI-E headers. Also, my 8086K running at 5.2GHz is quite hungry, topping out at what's reported as 158W, but commonly using 35-45W while folding.

How much hungrier is the 8086K than the 8600K? I ran an 8600K at 5Ghz with those SLI 1080s, IIRC I pushed it up to 5.1 at 1.4v, but that voltage was too high for 24/7 IMO, don't remember if I had both cards in at the time. 
 

10 minutes ago, azmariadei said:

 Living out in the country where we have all sorts of power issues though, I'm worried about my UPS as well. I tried folding with both my GPU and with my 2600K (running embedded graphics and linux) in my server and it said NOPE NOT TODAY and shut off so now my server just does its thing and holds my data and syncs it to the cloud for me.

 I've been blessed to live where there's good power, even stuff like the Vega Frontier Edition (just a Vega 64 with 16GB VRAM) I ran for a bit never caused issues. I don't know if I've ever had hungrier hardware than that, if I get my SR-2 up and running I may though (it'll let me OC two 6c/12t Westmere-EP chips and at 1.4-1.45v those bois can eat a good bit of power). 

[azmariadei]

8 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

How much hungrier is the 8086K than the 8600K? I ran an 8600K at 5Ghz with those SLI 1080s, IIRC I pushed it up to 5.1 at 1.4v, but that voltage was too high for 24/7 IMO, don't remember if I had both cards in at the time. 

It regularly hits 1.515V and soaks it up like a day at the spa but spends most of the time around 1.46V With my AIO it ranges from 28-86C, topping out at around 78C with most loads and only going higher with stress tests. Right now, folding, it's using 1.46V and sitting at ~50C and 48W. I start up Chrome... Oh goodness...

[Zando_]

3 minutes ago, azmariadei said:

It regularly hits 1.515V and soaks it up like a day at the spa but spends most of the time around 1.46V With my AIO it ranges from 28-86C, topping out at around 78C with most loads and only going higher with stress tests. Right now, folding, it's using 1.46V and sitting at ~50C and 48W. I start up Chrome... Oh goodness...

Y-yikes that's a little high, IIRC the safe max for 8000 series is 1.4v, 1.45v if you're brave (for 24/7, bench runs at higher voltages are fine). Though it is an 8086K so even if it degrades slightly at that voltage you'll probs still be able to hit an even 5Ghz on a safe voltage. 

I don't usually push over 1.45v even on my Westmere-EP chips. Those can take like 1.6v for bench runs, I've had some people claim they ran that 24/7 but I've seen others who I trust more say they degrade pretty rapidly at that voltage so I avoid it. 

[Erudito]

Processor is no longer showing Ready and a non-functional download. Been getting a few lower point WUs...

[azmariadei]

5 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Y-yikes that's a little high, IIRC the safe max for 8000 series is 1.4v, 1.45v if you're brave (for 24/7, bench runs at higher voltages are fine). Though it is an 8086K so even if it degrades slightly at that voltage you'll probs still be able to hit an even 5Ghz on a safe voltage. 

I don't usually push over 1.45v even on my Westmere-EP chips. Those can take like 1.6v for bench runs, I've had some people claim they ran that 24/7 but I've seen others who I trust more say they degrade pretty rapidly at that voltage so I avoid it. 

i did very basic overclocking on it... the voltages are set automatically and i just let it take what it wants. If it's the IA Voltage you mean, that's a stable 1.382V but the individual core voltages float.

 

Sorry, I went to school and learned on computers last millenium so trying to relate the modern computers to the old 486 and pentium 200 systems of yore isn't always the easiest. I do my best to read everything and keep up, but technology changes so fast and there's so much to miss these days. If you need me to rebuild an MFM or IDE hard drive, I'm your woman... Delid a CPU? maybe not...

 

That being said, am I being an idiot about my voltages? Or does this look normal?

[Zando_]

6 minutes ago, azmariadei said:

hat being said, am I being an idiot about my voltages? Or does this look normal?

 

1.5v - if it's on the core (I never got really deep into it so IDK what's safe on the other voltages) - is definitely too high from everything I've seen, you should be able to hit 5.1-5.2 at like 1.4v or so, probably less since 8086K's are a binned 8700K. Manual OCs let you fine tune the voltage, the mobo's auto voltage will usually overcompensate to make sure there's no chance of it being unstable. If you have the time to manually tweak it (it takes a lot of reboots lol), I recommend you find a good video or ask around on the proper section here and fix those voltages. 
 

[sazrocks]

28 minutes ago, azmariadei said:

i did very basic overclocking on it... the voltages are set automatically and i just let it take what it wants. If it's the IA Voltage you mean, that's a stable 1.382V but the individual core voltages float.

 

Sorry, I went to school and learned on computers last millenium so trying to relate the modern computers to the old 486 and pentium 200 systems of yore isn't always the easiest. I do my best to read everything and keep up, but technology changes so fast and there's so much to miss these days. If you need me to rebuild an MFM or IDE hard drive, I'm your woman... Delid a CPU? maybe not...

 

That being said, am I being an idiot about my voltages? Or does this look normal?

I would try to keep voltages below 1.45v, and even then I wouldn’t run something like p95 for fear of insane current draw degrading things. For FAH I would honestly keep it to 1.42v ish, but for normal loads 1.45-1.46 can be doable (This is what I ran my 6700k for a long time)

[Nathans nonsense]

none of my WU's are showing up...i've done 7 in the last 10 hours but they're not here

 

[leadeater]

1 minute ago, Nathans nonsense said:

none of my WU's are showing up...i've done 7 in the last 10 hours but they're not here

Re-setup your identity and team information or uninstall FAH and reinstall it. I've had the client startup running default Anon for unknown reason before, can also check logs and look at the start of it for ID and team info.

[Nathans nonsense]

1 minute ago, leadeater said:

Re-setup your identity and team information or uninstall FAH and reinstall it. I've had the client startup running default Anon for unknown reason before, can also check logs and look at the start of it for ID and team info.

is this right?

[GOTSpectrum]

Well guys, I haven't had a wink of sleep with the baby starting to teeth, but, were so God damn close!

 

497,711,129 over the last 24 hours. Just that tiny bit more people! Let's get that half billion day!!!

[Rusted]

Regarding AMD Navi GPUs and folding

 

It looks like we have to wait for FAHCore_22 to get support for these cards.

 

https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=31710&sid=f43632ba95f787e73cff7ad08c4d7913&start=75#p309220

[Rusted]

43 minutes ago, Nathans nonsense said:

is this right?

Wrong team: https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/223522

 

 LinusTechTips_Team: https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/223518

[azmariadei]

1 hour ago, sazrocks said:

I would try to keep voltages below 1.45v, and even then I wouldn’t run something like p95 for fear of insane current draw degrading things. For FAH I would honestly keep it to 1.42v ish, but for normal loads 1.45-1.46 can be doable (This is what I ran my 6700k for a long time)

Well that was an interesting journey of discovery. Setting the voltage manually makes the system unstable and I can no longer see the VID voltages reported for some reason... And now under full load back in auto the VIDs are topping out at 1.400V and 1.502 at low to medium load and 0.757V at no load.

 

This makes me wish for the comm gear I worked on in the military. You tuned it to specific voltages and frequencies and it stayed where you freaking put it. Then you ran it 24/7 for years until it died and replaced it with the same thing tuned to identical specifications.

 

EDIT - I'm also not doing CPU folding so the load on the CPU is only like 30% tops.

Edited October 12, 2019 by azmariadei
forgot a small detail

[catawalks]

2 minutes ago, Rusted said:

Wrong team: https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/223522

 

 LinusTechTips_Team: https://stats.foldingathome.org/team/223518

Yup, that'll do it for sure.

[catawalks]

@leadeater I'm gonna need you to slow down on the points production, I was getting comfortable in my spot on the daily production leaderboard. Or is it the leadeaterboard?

[sazrocks]

9 minutes ago, azmariadei said:

Well that was an interesting journey of discovery. Setting the voltage manually makes the system unstable and I can no longer see the VID voltages reported for some reason... And now under full load back in auto the VIDs are topping out at 1.400V and 1.502 at low to medium load and 0.757V at no load.

 

This makes me wish for the comm gear I worked on in the military. You tuned it to specific voltages and frequencies and it stayed where you freaking put it. Then you ran it 24/7 for years until it died and replaced it with the same thing tuned to identical specifications.

 

EDIT - I'm also not doing CPU folding so the load on the CPU is only like 30% tops.

IIRC VID is just the voltage that the processor requests. Use Vcore for measuring actual voltage. This is also why it doesn't show when you manually set voltage, as the processor's request is just thrown out. 

 

As for the instability, did you apply LLC? You can get a decent about of Vdroop when stability testing, so you might want mediumish LLC

[azmariadei]

2 minutes ago, sazrocks said:

IIRC VID is just the voltage that the processor requests. Use Vcore for measuring actual voltage. This is also why it doesn't show when you manually set voltage, as the processor's request is just thrown out. 

 

As for the instability, did you apply LLC? You can get a decent about of Vdroop when stability testing, so you might want mediumish LLC

LLC is all set to auto. VID is still coming up at 1.382V and holding stable. Everything has been running fine and stable for over a year now and made it just fine through not only this month's folding so far but last year's as well, but on air at these settings as well so I'm going to at least let it ride through to the end of the month for now. There are points to be had and i've seen far too many BSODs tonight for my liking.