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Team Group: Watercooled M.2 SSD - Cardea Liquid

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Posted · Original PosterOP

https://www.computerbase.de/2019-07/team-group-m.2-ssd-cardea-liquid-marktstart/

sorry for the german source. im sure youll find somthing in english if you look it up

 

so apparently team group is releasing a watercooled M.2 SSD

Team Group: Marktstart für wassergekühlte M.2‑SSD Cardea Liquid

 

some online retailers have started announcing availability.

itll come in 3 size variants:

256 GB -?

512 GB - 88 €

1 TB - 148 €

theyll be M.2 2280 cards using 4x PCIe lanes

up to 3400 MB/s reads

depending on variant 1000, 2000, and 3000 MB/s writes

but those write speeds are only for tranfering from slc cache, the size of which isnt announced yet

 

aluminium "block"

transparent top

slider plate allows access to the fill port

aparantly 10°C lower compared to using no heatsink at all

No external loop options, its apparently a close system of sort theres no way to integrate into your custom loop

83,9 × 24,3 × 14,1 mm

 

these are the rough notes from that article

if you ask me its snake oil

i was actually kinda intrigued by the headline but its a poseidong type thing of sea hawk or whatever other manufacturers have called their hybrid coolers. no this is closed. i mean i was kinda wondering how the hell you gon fit fittings on a tiny m.2 block. but then again we did it with ram so i thought maybe...

but they didnt. they just made litlle reserboir with no outlets. so it just sits there. also 10° compared to no heatsink at all seems to support that this isnt really doing anything. if you unscrew the top plate and ony use the alu bottom i would assume youd get the same result.

the price aint all that bad though. i thougt they would have put an extra on there for all that fancyness but then again the performance isnt anything special anymore either so....idk just thought it was interesting


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10°C lower temps compared to no heatsink. I'm failry certain a well designed aluminium heatsink would provide same cooling capacity.

 

This seems the same gimmick as "WATER COOLING" in smartphones. When you open it, it's just a heatpipe we had in PC's for almost 2 decades...

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, Tedny said:

you know, that thing is bad for ssd preferments, right?! 

preferments? i have no idea what you are talking about could you explain?


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Feels kind of pointless.


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4 minutes ago, Tedny said:

nand-flash don't like temps lower 40C, it's became slower 

you referring specifically to m.2?


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https://www.anandtech.com/show/14675/team-groups-tforce-cardea-liquid-a-liquidcooled-m2-ssd

 

I like the looks of it, so it would be a consideration just for that in the same way RGB is just for looks. The premium they're asking, I'm not so sure about.


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Aquacomputer made an M.2 pcie slot waterblock already years ago.  It's unneeded unless you're absolutely thrashing the shit out of the drive which no one is doing in a home environment.


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Too low temperature shortens the NAND life-time (number of erase-program cycles). A better solution would be to isolate the Flash chips from the water block and only make thermal contact with the controller, since it's the controller that gets really hot during intensive I/O work.

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Goes to show that Team Group isn't doing their R&D properly... Hmmm... We'll see if they pull the product.

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