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Team Group: Watercooled M.2 SSD - Cardea Liquid

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https://www.computerbase.de/2019-07/team-group-m.2-ssd-cardea-liquid-marktstart/

sorry for the german source. im sure youll find somthing in english if you look it up

 

so apparently team group is releasing a watercooled M.2 SSD

Team Group: Marktstart für wassergekühlte M.2‑SSD Cardea Liquid

 

some online retailers have started announcing availability.

itll come in 3 size variants:

256 GB -?

512 GB - 88 €

1 TB - 148 €

theyll be M.2 2280 cards using 4x PCIe lanes

up to 3400 MB/s reads

depending on variant 1000, 2000, and 3000 MB/s writes

but those write speeds are only for tranfering from slc cache, the size of which isnt announced yet

 

aluminium "block"

transparent top

slider plate allows access to the fill port

aparantly 10°C lower compared to using no heatsink at all

No external loop options, its apparently a close system of sort theres no way to integrate into your custom loop

83,9 × 24,3 × 14,1 mm

 

these are the rough notes from that article

if you ask me its snake oil

i was actually kinda intrigued by the headline but its a poseidong type thing of sea hawk or whatever other manufacturers have called their hybrid coolers. no this is closed. i mean i was kinda wondering how the hell you gon fit fittings on a tiny m.2 block. but then again we did it with ram so i thought maybe...

but they didnt. they just made litlle reserboir with no outlets. so it just sits there. also 10° compared to no heatsink at all seems to support that this isnt really doing anything. if you unscrew the top plate and ony use the alu bottom i would assume youd get the same result.

the price aint all that bad though. i thougt they would have put an extra on there for all that fancyness but then again the performance isnt anything special anymore either so....idk just thought it was interesting

"You know it'll clock down as soon as it hits 40°C, right?" - "Yeah ... but it doesnt hit 40°C ... ever  😄"

 

GPU: MSI GTX1080 Ti Aero @ 2 GHz (watercooled) CPU: Ryzen 5600X (watercooled) RAM: 32GB 3600Mhz Corsair LPX MB: Gigabyte B550i PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Hyte Revolt 3

 

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10°C lower temps compared to no heatsink. I'm failry certain a well designed aluminium heatsink would provide same cooling capacity.

 

This seems the same gimmick as "WATER COOLING" in smartphones. When you open it, it's just a heatpipe we had in PC's for almost 2 decades...

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2 minutes ago, Tedny said:

you know, that thing is bad for ssd preferments, right?! 

preferments? i have no idea what you are talking about could you explain?

"You know it'll clock down as soon as it hits 40°C, right?" - "Yeah ... but it doesnt hit 40°C ... ever  😄"

 

GPU: MSI GTX1080 Ti Aero @ 2 GHz (watercooled) CPU: Ryzen 5600X (watercooled) RAM: 32GB 3600Mhz Corsair LPX MB: Gigabyte B550i PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Hyte Revolt 3

 

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Feels kind of pointless.

Specs: Motherboard: Asus X470-PLUS TUF gaming (Yes I know it's poor but I wasn't informed) RAM: Corsair VENGEANCE® LPX DDR4 3200Mhz CL16-18-18-36 2x8GB

            CPU: Ryzen 9 5900X          Case: Antec P8     PSU: Corsair RM850x                        Cooler: Antec K240 with two Noctura Industrial PPC 3000 PWM

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https://www.anandtech.com/show/14675/team-groups-tforce-cardea-liquid-a-liquidcooled-m2-ssd

 

I like the looks of it, so it would be a consideration just for that in the same way RGB is just for looks. The premium they're asking, I'm not so sure about.

Main system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, Corsair Vengeance Pro 3200 3x 16GB 2R, RTX 3070, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut
Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible

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Aquacomputer made an M.2 pcie slot waterblock already years ago.  It's unneeded unless you're absolutely thrashing the shit out of the drive which no one is doing in a home environment.

Workstation:  13700k @ 5.5Ghz || Gigabyte Z790 Ultra || MSI Gaming Trio 4090 Shunt || TeamGroup DDR5-7800 @ 7000 || Corsair AX1500i@240V || whole-house loop.

LANRig/GuestGamingBox: 9900nonK || Gigabyte Z390 Master || ASUS TUF 3090 650W shunt || Corsair SF600 || CPU+GPU watercooled 280 rad pull only || whole-house loop.

Server Router (Untangle): 13600k @ Stock || ASRock Z690 ITX || All 10Gbe || 2x8GB 3200 || PicoPSU 150W 24pin + AX1200i on CPU|| whole-house loop

Server Compute/Storage: 10850K @ 5.1Ghz || Gigabyte Z490 Ultra || EVGA FTW3 3090 1000W || LSI 9280i-24 port || 4TB Samsung 860 Evo, 5x10TB Seagate Enterprise Raid 6, 4x8TB Seagate Archive Backup ||  whole-house loop.

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Too low temperature shortens the NAND life-time (number of erase-program cycles). A better solution would be to isolate the Flash chips from the water block and only make thermal contact with the controller, since it's the controller that gets really hot during intensive I/O work.

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Goes to show that Team Group isn't doing their R&D properly... Hmmm... We'll see if they pull the product.

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I'd say this product is pointless except it's worse than that as it's actually harmful.

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