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Threadripper 1920X worth buying in 2-3 months?

@Jurrunio yeah, 3700x have much more resonable, and it will be about same price vs 1920x + used x399. So unity performance will be much better on 3700x u say? 

 

7 hours ago, RollinLower said:

this. if you get a first gen TR4 chip now you have one hell of an upgrade path!

X399 boards are very expensive though. and i doubt you'll be off cheaper in X399, even if you get a secondhand board.

That is what i was thinking of, that in future i have super solid upgrade path. Mobo prices are killing, so used might be an option.

 

@NunoLava1998 i porbably will after this post go for 3700X

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Like the question in the title. In 2 to 3 month im planning to build new pc, and thinking about Threadripper 1920X vs ryzen 2700x because of massive price drops. And because 1920x is started beeing smimilary priced as 2700x im thinking in favour of threadripper. I'm game developer and blender artist, tought TR might be a good idea. Also i game (lol, that's kinda obvius i think) but i can sacrafice some gaming performance in favour of better unity/ unreal and blender performance. I'm looking for an opinion because I don't watch over tech scene as closely as i was watching, and yes, i know about ZEN 2, but the reason im looking for older gen ryzen, is price drop connected to zen 2 premiere. 

 


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has 3rd gen Ryzen not invaded Poland yet? I mean 3rd gen Ryzen's 6 core is matching the 2nd gen 8 core, varying between different workloads. I'm not saying older CPUs aren't an option, but the 1920x + board better be cheaper than 3700x + board (not even necessarily X570) to make up for its single core and memory latency disadvantage which hurts a lot in benchmarks that prefers Intel, same for 2700x or 2700 versus 3600.


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CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

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4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

has 3rd gen Ryzen not invaded Poland yet?

It probably has. just like the ussr has


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CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($72.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($168.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($62.99 @ NCIX US) 
Memory: Samsung 32GB (1 x 32GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($256.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar He8 8TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($479.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($179.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Lian-Li PC-V2130WX ATX Full Tower Case  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1745.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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@JurrunioInsanely expansive. We have really high margin, in case of 3800x it is from 100 usd to 150 usd higher pirce. Was thinking about sniping this cpu on  black friaday deals on amazon. So in a nutshell, fuck it and go zen 2?


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3 minutes ago, Gawron10001 said:

@JurrunioInsanely expansive. We have really high margin, in case of 3800x it is from 100 usd to 150 usd higher pirce. Was thinking about sniping this cpu on  black friaday deals on amazon. So in a nutshell, fuck it and go zen 2?

Go for a 3700X. Also Zen 2 is obviously more expensive than their Zen+ and Zen counterparts


Ryzen 5 1500X === ASRock B450 Gaming ITX/AC === 24GB DDR4 === Sapphire RX 570 4GB === Optane 800P 58GB === Patriot Burst 240GB === Toshiba Q300 240GB === beQuiet SFX Power 2 400W === Silverstone ML08B

Spoiler

OK, i'm not even gonna build this, but is this a good workstation?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($72.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($168.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($62.99 @ NCIX US) 
Memory: Samsung 32GB (1 x 32GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($256.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar He8 8TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($479.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($179.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Lian-Li PC-V2130WX ATX Full Tower Case  ($499.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1745.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-09 12:48 EST-0500

 

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Just now, Gawron10001 said:

@JurrunioInsanely expansive. We have really high margin, in case of 3800x it is from 100 usd to 150 usd. Was thinking about sniping this cpu on  black friaday deals on amazon. So in a nutshell, fuck it and go zen 2?

not 3800x for sure, it's only 2-3% better than 3700x while the better cooler is easily beaten by cheap air coolers you can buy separately. $100-150 more from 2700x is worth it since unlike Blender, unity/unreal cares about Zen's weakness (latency) which has seen improvements from Zen+ to Zen 2

 

but 1920X + X399 still $100-150 cheaper than 3700x + say, b450? You have to count the board, otherwise it's not fair. If it is tho, then maybe it's a good choice for X399. With this much gains over each generation finding used older TR in the future at a good price shouldn't be hard.


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

With this much gains over each generation finding used older TR in the future at a good price shouldn't be hard.

this. if you get a first gen TR4 chip now you have one hell of an upgrade path!

X399 boards are very expensive though. and i doubt you'll be off cheaper in X399, even if you get a secondhand board.


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Posted · Original PosterOP · Best Answer

@Jurrunio yeah, 3700x have much more resonable, and it will be about same price vs 1920x + used x399. So unity performance will be much better on 3700x u say? 

 

7 hours ago, RollinLower said:

this. if you get a first gen TR4 chip now you have one hell of an upgrade path!

X399 boards are very expensive though. and i doubt you'll be off cheaper in X399, even if you get a secondhand board.

That is what i was thinking of, that in future i have super solid upgrade path. Mobo prices are killing, so used might be an option.

 

@NunoLava1998 i porbably will after this post go for 3700X

 

Thanks guys!


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