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HELP!!! MY 3700X IS WIERD

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Posted · Original PosterOP

So Im currently struggling with this new built pc. 3700x, x570 master mobo, ripjaw v 3200 c16

Everything works fine at stock as far as I can tell but when I try to put a manual oc of 4.3ghz, it cant seem to do it. Even at 1.4v, it would restart 2 secs into cinebench. According to what ive collected online so far. 4.3 should be ez to reach for 3700x and 1.4 is really high for it.

Could my cpu or mobo faulty? I have a couple days left to return it.

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The only thing wrong is your expectations

 

Ryzen 3000 has little to no overclocking headroom. 

 

4.3 is more like the wall, not the norm.


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So they way they advertised the processers is a bit different then normal. basicly what ti advertises is more or less the best the average consume has a CHANCE of getting.

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Zen 2 changed how boost is advertised in a disingenuous way. Are you actually hitting 4.3 for more than a second or 2 at all?


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Posted · Original PosterOP
7 minutes ago, SenKa said:

Zen 2 changed how boost is advertised in a disingenuous way. Are you actually hitting 4.3 for more than a second or 2 at all?

the moment I start any heavy load, it crashes. Cinebench r15 single thread runs fine tho

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Sounds about right from what I have been seeing on youtube. 4.3 is about the limit for these things without doing some crazy stuff, and then you have to go pretty high with voltages and other settings. The ones I have seen trying messing with overclocks on them suggested sticking with 4.2 since you can do it at much lower voltages and performance is pretty much the same.

 

Try doing it on a 3600 lol. I hit 4.275 on mine but I had to use like 1.45 volts and it was drawing at about 110 watts and 83c for temps with a water cooler. And it wasn't completely stable. And I gained all of like 30 points in R15 over an easy 4.2 clock. Using PBO didn't do much for it either except with single core stuff. For multi core it only boosted to like 4.1, but in single core it was hitting 4.4. And it benchmarked about the same in single core as a 4.25 all core manaul clock did.

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1 hour ago, RandomName 69 said:

So Im currently struggling with this new built pc. 3700x, x570 master mobo, ripjaw v 3200 c16

Everything works fine at stock as far as I can tell but when I try to put a manual oc of 4.3ghz, it cant seem to do it. Even at 1.4v, it would restart 2 secs into cinebench. According to what ive collected online so far. 4.3 should be ez to reach for 3700x and 1.4 is really high for it.

Could my cpu or mobo faulty? I have a couple days left to return it.

Amd kinda screwed the pooch with advertizment with how boost clocks work, how the explained it is that the max boost I.e. 4.4 is obtainable by no more then a few cores at best during certain workloads. NOW in the case of overclocking 4.3 has been obtainable iv managed this on my 3700x at 1.36-37 volts BUT its all based on cpu by cpu basis the normal going number is 4.2 all core. I may have just gotten lucky with an early pick


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