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I'm building a PC for my best friend who's looking to do some work with Autocad and Solidworks and game on his spare time. He has a budget of around 1000 USD. I tried my best in PC parts picker. 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $144.99 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill - Sniper X 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $156.99 @ Newegg
Storage Kingston - A400 240 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $29.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $43.71 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card $344.99 @ Newegg
Case Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case $39.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $69.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1054.64
  Mail-in rebates -$25.00
  Total $1029.64
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-19 15:05 EDT-0400  

My only worries are the GPU, I'm not really certain on the best gaming and work station card there is. LTT suggested an Rx 580 in the previous video on Solidworks, however I'm hoping maybe someone has some insight into whether or not CUDA performance and the tensor cores on RTX would meaningfully help. Also yes I know X570 may be a waste of money but we are tinkerers after all and some of it has to do with trying new high end hardware. If anyone would have any ideas on parts to change maybe to lower the cost or up the performance without spending more. I'm open to discussion.

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Definately go Nvidia for Solidworks, they work closely. 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $74.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $129.99 @ Newegg
Storage Patriot - Burst 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $47.99 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card $509.99 @ B&H
Case Deepcool - DSHIELD-V2 ATX Mid Tower Case $29.99 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1071.84
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1051.84
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-19 15:41 EDT-0400  

 

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I'd do this:

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $144.99 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $124.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $59.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card $409.99 @ B&H
Case DIYPC - Alnitak-BK ATX Mid Tower Case $29.98 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $40.50 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1019.44
  Mail-in rebates -$10.00
  Total $1009.44
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-19 15:45 EDT-0400  

 

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17 hours ago, jerubedo said:

I'd do this:

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $144.99 @ Newegg
Memory Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $124.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $59.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card $409.99 @ B&H
Case DIYPC - Alnitak-BK ATX Mid Tower Case $29.98 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $40.50 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1019.44
  Mail-in rebates -$10.00
  Total $1009.44
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-19 15:45 EDT-0400  

 

I really don't think that PSU would even be enough, especially since I'm gonna overclock most likely. Plus according to testing 3600 speed memory is where you want to be for Ryzen performance, which is why I had that kit to begin with. Also no 1tb hard drive? He's gonna need a backup drive for older files and games a 512gb ssd won't nearly be enough. Really we can leave the storage case and PSU alone on my build, Really the only issue would be what GPU and memory kit to go with.

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17 hours ago, Daniel Z. said:

Definately go Nvidia for Solidworks, they work closely. 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $74.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $129.99 @ Newegg
Storage Patriot - Burst 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $47.99 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card $509.99 @ B&H
Case Deepcool - DSHIELD-V2 ATX Mid Tower Case $29.99 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1071.84
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1051.84
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-19 15:41 EDT-0400  

 

I'm liking this build a lot more than the other one. Suitable PSU, the SSD is okay I guess but same as last one, no hard drive. He's really gonna need at least a 1tb hard drive for his mass storage of games and other stuff. That case should do well, but were back to B450, we wanted to go X570 because of PCI-e 4.0, we are considering high speed PCI-e based storage later on and would like PCI-e 4.0 capability.

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2 hours ago, JacobeeGames said:

I'm liking this build a lot more than the other one. Suitable PSU, the SSD is okay I guess but same as last one, no hard drive. He's really gonna need at least a 1tb hard drive for his mass storage of games and other stuff. That case should do well, but were back to B450, we wanted to go X570 because of PCI-e 4.0, we are considering high speed PCI-e based storage later on and would like PCI-e 4.0 capability.

Very fast SSDs are almost completely useless unless you do very large file transfers on a regular basis. Load time differences are negligible when comparing normal SATA SSDs and even the fastest NVMe drives.

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6 hours ago, JacobeeGames said:

I'm liking this build a lot more than the other one. Suitable PSU, the SSD is okay I guess but same as last one, no hard drive. He's really gonna need at least a 1tb hard drive for his mass storage of games and other stuff. That case should do well, but were back to B450, we wanted to go X570 because of PCI-e 4.0, we are considering high speed PCI-e based storage later on and would like PCI-e 4.0 capability.

The PSU you have is a tier C, which is pretty bad. This one is a tier B, and 450w is more than enough for this build even with a moderate overclock. The base system draw is about 350w at 100% load, with an overclocked draw of no more than 400w at 100% load. You can go with the 550w CX model for $10 more if you are that concerned, however. Just don't go with the PSU you have in your original build. As for storage, you can add an extra HDD in there if you want. I just gave you the bare-bones system with the best possible CPU/RAM/Mobo/GPU within the price range you requested, and an adequate SSD, PSU, and tower.

 

3600 RAM is certainly not the sweet spot. It's the most expensive spot with marginal gains over 3200. I agree that 3000 is no longer the best option, and I'd say 3200 is the sweet spot as the prices for 3200 aren't bad where the 3600 is still a premium. Steve at Gamers Nexus said that as well, by the way.

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with all taken into consideration, this is what i would suggest.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Hitachi - Deskstar 7K2000 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($38.88 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card  ($414.99 @ B&H) 
Case: *Deepcool - MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1032.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-20 16:32 EDT-0400

 

X570 mobo

32GB of ram, imo 3200MHz is not worth the $$ yet, you can easily OC the 3000Mhz kit to 3200MHz.

a 1TB HDD is NOT enough for Game Library + other storage and backups. My game library is already over 1TB, and i have like 20% of my games installed.

Decentish PSU (dont cheap out that is what will set your house on fire)

Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 9 3950X Processor (Stock, -0.1V offset)  /// Motherboard: Asus Pro WS X570-Ace /// CPU Cooler: Deepcool GamerStorm Castle 360 RGB V2 /// GPU: Gigabyte AORUS GeForce® RTX 2080 SUPER™ 8G /// RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V 128GB (4x32GB) 3200Mhz CL16 /// Chassis: Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C Blackout TG /// PSU: Corsair RM850i /// Storage: 500GB Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe (boot) + 1TB WD Black SN750 NVMe (Working Drive) + 2x 1TB Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" SATA SSD RAID0 (Game Library) + 2TB Seagate BarraCuda (Backup) /// OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Peripherals (Main Rig): Mouse: Logitech MX Master 3 + Logitech G903 Lightspeed /// Keyboard: Keychron Q1 ANSI - JWK Lavender Linear Switches (TX Switch Film, Krytox 205g0), Durock V2 Stabilisers, Polycarbonate Plate, Tape Mod, GMK Blue Samurai + Keychron K4 V2 Hotswap RGB Aluminum Frame - Gateron Milky Black (Deskeys Switch Film, Krytox 205g0), Foam Mod, Tape Mod, GMK Rainy Day PBT Clones /// Tablet: Wacom Intuos M BT /// Monitor: 4x LG 27UL500-W (4K IPS Freesync) /// DAC: Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 /// Speakers: Logitech Z625 /// Mic: Focusrite CM25 MkII /// Headphones: Audio-Technica ATH-M50x, ATH-LS70iS IEMs /// Racing Wheel: Logitech G920 Driving Force with Shifter /// Eye Tracker: Steelseries Sentry  /// External Drives: 500GB Samsung T5 SSD (Working Drive)

 

Home Server - NASty: CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 7 2700x Processor /// Motherboard: Asus PRIME X470-Pro  /// CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 /// GPU: Gigabyte GeForce® GT 1030 OC 2G /// RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ RGB 64GB (4x16GB) 3200Mhz CL16 /// Chassis: Fractal Design Define R5 Window /// PSU: Corsair RM750x /// Storage: LSI SAS 9211-8i (IT Mode) + 10x 4TB Seagate Exos Enterprise Drive /// OS: UNRaid

 

Tester Rig: CPU: AMD Athlon™ 200GE Processor /// Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero WIFI  /// CPU Cooler: AMD Wraith Prism RGB /// GPU: Palit GeForce® GTX 1050 2GB StromX /// RAM: Klevv Bolt 8GB (1x8GB) 3000Mhz CL15 /// Chassis: The AMAZING $30 "Computer Case"! /// PSU: Seasonic Focus GX-750 /// Storage: 1TB Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SATA SSD + 240GB Transcend SSD220S 2.5" SATA SSD /// OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Laptop (Asus UX430UN): CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-8550U Processor  /// GPU: NVIDIA GeForce MX150 /// RAM: 16GB 2133Mhz /// Storage: 512GB SanDisk SD8SN8U512G1002 (boot) /// OS: Windows 10 Home

 

Other Tech: Console: Xbox One S 1TB, Apple TV 4K /// Printer: Canon imageCLASS MF635Cx /// Phone: Apple iPhone 12 Pro Max 256GB Graphite (Daily Driver)  /// Tablet: Apple iPad 9.7-inch Wi-Fi (2018) 32GB + Apple Pencil (1st Generation) /// Headphones: Apple Airpods Pro, Sony WF-1000XM3, Sony WH-1000XM3 /// Smartwatch: Apple Watch Series 6 GPS Space Grey

 

Cameras: Bodies: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II, Canon EOS 5D Mark IV,  Sony A6000 /// Lenses: Canon EF 24-70mm F/2.8L USM, Canon EF 16-35mm F/2.8L II USM, Canon EF 70-200mm F/2.8L IS II USM, Tamron SP 150-600mm F/5-6.3 Di VC USD G2 (Canon), Sony SEL-P1650 E 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 PZ OSS /// Lighting: 2x Godox SL60-W Continuous LED, 2x Canon Speedlite 580EXII /// Tripods: Leofoto LS-324C Carbon Fiber Tripod + Leofoto LH-40 Ballhead, Leofoto MC-80 Multipurpose Clamp, Triopo DG-3 Gimbal Head /// Yes, I am a Canon Fanboy, deal with it

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1 hour ago, berwynhan said:

with all taken into consideration, this is what i would suggest.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Hitachi - Deskstar 7K2000 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($38.88 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card  ($414.99 @ B&H) 
Case: *Deepcool - MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1032.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-20 16:32 EDT-0400

 

X570 mobo

32GB of ram, imo 3200MHz is not worth the $$ yet, you can easily OC the 3000Mhz kit to 3200MHz.

a 1TB HDD is NOT enough for Game Library + other storage and backups. My game library is already over 1TB, and i have like 20% of my games installed.

Decentish PSU (dont cheap out that is what will set your house on fire)

I agree, except one thing: that motherboard won't fit in that tower.

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9 hours ago, jerubedo said:

I agree, except one thing: that motherboard won't fit in that tower.

He has a point.

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2 hours ago, Catchears said:

He has a point.

right, thats a mistake on my part.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($198.90 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($154.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Hitachi - Deskstar 7K2000 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($38.88 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card  ($414.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1062.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-21 06:13 EDT-0400

 

It will fit in this case

Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 9 3950X Processor (Stock, -0.1V offset)  /// Motherboard: Asus Pro WS X570-Ace /// CPU Cooler: Deepcool GamerStorm Castle 360 RGB V2 /// GPU: Gigabyte AORUS GeForce® RTX 2080 SUPER™ 8G /// RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws V 128GB (4x32GB) 3200Mhz CL16 /// Chassis: Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C Blackout TG /// PSU: Corsair RM850i /// Storage: 500GB Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe (boot) + 1TB WD Black SN750 NVMe (Working Drive) + 2x 1TB Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" SATA SSD RAID0 (Game Library) + 2TB Seagate BarraCuda (Backup) /// OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Peripherals (Main Rig): Mouse: Logitech MX Master 3 + Logitech G903 Lightspeed /// Keyboard: Keychron Q1 ANSI - JWK Lavender Linear Switches (TX Switch Film, Krytox 205g0), Durock V2 Stabilisers, Polycarbonate Plate, Tape Mod, GMK Blue Samurai + Keychron K4 V2 Hotswap RGB Aluminum Frame - Gateron Milky Black (Deskeys Switch Film, Krytox 205g0), Foam Mod, Tape Mod, GMK Rainy Day PBT Clones /// Tablet: Wacom Intuos M BT /// Monitor: 4x LG 27UL500-W (4K IPS Freesync) /// DAC: Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 /// Speakers: Logitech Z625 /// Mic: Focusrite CM25 MkII /// Headphones: Audio-Technica ATH-M50x, ATH-LS70iS IEMs /// Racing Wheel: Logitech G920 Driving Force with Shifter /// Eye Tracker: Steelseries Sentry  /// External Drives: 500GB Samsung T5 SSD (Working Drive)

 

Home Server - NASty: CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 7 2700x Processor /// Motherboard: Asus PRIME X470-Pro  /// CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 /// GPU: Gigabyte GeForce® GT 1030 OC 2G /// RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ RGB 64GB (4x16GB) 3200Mhz CL16 /// Chassis: Fractal Design Define R5 Window /// PSU: Corsair RM750x /// Storage: LSI SAS 9211-8i (IT Mode) + 10x 4TB Seagate Exos Enterprise Drive /// OS: UNRaid

 

Tester Rig: CPU: AMD Athlon™ 200GE Processor /// Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero WIFI  /// CPU Cooler: AMD Wraith Prism RGB /// GPU: Palit GeForce® GTX 1050 2GB StromX /// RAM: Klevv Bolt 8GB (1x8GB) 3000Mhz CL15 /// Chassis: The AMAZING $30 "Computer Case"! /// PSU: Seasonic Focus GX-750 /// Storage: 1TB Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SATA SSD + 240GB Transcend SSD220S 2.5" SATA SSD /// OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Laptop (Asus UX430UN): CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-8550U Processor  /// GPU: NVIDIA GeForce MX150 /// RAM: 16GB 2133Mhz /// Storage: 512GB SanDisk SD8SN8U512G1002 (boot) /// OS: Windows 10 Home

 

Other Tech: Console: Xbox One S 1TB, Apple TV 4K /// Printer: Canon imageCLASS MF635Cx /// Phone: Apple iPhone 12 Pro Max 256GB Graphite (Daily Driver)  /// Tablet: Apple iPad 9.7-inch Wi-Fi (2018) 32GB + Apple Pencil (1st Generation) /// Headphones: Apple Airpods Pro, Sony WF-1000XM3, Sony WH-1000XM3 /// Smartwatch: Apple Watch Series 6 GPS Space Grey

 

Cameras: Bodies: Canon EOS-1D X Mark II, Canon EOS 5D Mark IV,  Sony A6000 /// Lenses: Canon EF 24-70mm F/2.8L USM, Canon EF 16-35mm F/2.8L II USM, Canon EF 70-200mm F/2.8L IS II USM, Tamron SP 150-600mm F/5-6.3 Di VC USD G2 (Canon), Sony SEL-P1650 E 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 PZ OSS /// Lighting: 2x Godox SL60-W Continuous LED, 2x Canon Speedlite 580EXII /// Tripods: Leofoto LS-324C Carbon Fiber Tripod + Leofoto LH-40 Ballhead, Leofoto MC-80 Multipurpose Clamp, Triopo DG-3 Gimbal Head /// Yes, I am a Canon Fanboy, deal with it

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