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Cadd/Gaming PC for a thousand. Any advice?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I'm building a PC for my best friend who's looking to do some work with Autocad and Solidworks and game on his spare time. He has a budget of around 1000 USD. I tried my best in PC parts picker. 

My only worries are the GPU, I'm not really certain on the best gaming and work station card there is. LTT suggested an Rx 580 in the previous video on Solidworks, however I'm hoping maybe someone has some insight into whether or not CUDA performance and the tensor cores on RTX would meaningfully help. Also yes I know X570 may be a waste of money but we are tinkerers after all and some of it has to do with trying new high end hardware. If anyone would have any ideas on parts to change maybe to lower the cost or up the performance without spending more. I'm open to discussion.

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Definately go Nvidia for Solidworks, they work closely. 

 

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17 hours ago, jerubedo said:

I really don't think that PSU would even be enough, especially since I'm gonna overclock most likely. Plus according to testing 3600 speed memory is where you want to be for Ryzen performance, which is why I had that kit to begin with. Also no 1tb hard drive? He's gonna need a backup drive for older files and games a 512gb ssd won't nearly be enough. Really we can leave the storage case and PSU alone on my build, Really the only issue would be what GPU and memory kit to go with.

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17 hours ago, Daniel Z. said:

Definately go Nvidia for Solidworks, they work closely. 

 

I'm liking this build a lot more than the other one. Suitable PSU, the SSD is okay I guess but same as last one, no hard drive. He's really gonna need at least a 1tb hard drive for his mass storage of games and other stuff. That case should do well, but were back to B450, we wanted to go X570 because of PCI-e 4.0, we are considering high speed PCI-e based storage later on and would like PCI-e 4.0 capability.

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2 hours ago, JacobeeGames said:

I'm liking this build a lot more than the other one. Suitable PSU, the SSD is okay I guess but same as last one, no hard drive. He's really gonna need at least a 1tb hard drive for his mass storage of games and other stuff. That case should do well, but were back to B450, we wanted to go X570 because of PCI-e 4.0, we are considering high speed PCI-e based storage later on and would like PCI-e 4.0 capability.

Very fast SSDs are almost completely useless unless you do very large file transfers on a regular basis. Load time differences are negligible when comparing normal SATA SSDs and even the fastest NVMe drives.

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6 hours ago, JacobeeGames said:

I'm liking this build a lot more than the other one. Suitable PSU, the SSD is okay I guess but same as last one, no hard drive. He's really gonna need at least a 1tb hard drive for his mass storage of games and other stuff. That case should do well, but were back to B450, we wanted to go X570 because of PCI-e 4.0, we are considering high speed PCI-e based storage later on and would like PCI-e 4.0 capability.

The PSU you have is a tier C, which is pretty bad. This one is a tier B, and 450w is more than enough for this build even with a moderate overclock. The base system draw is about 350w at 100% load, with an overclocked draw of no more than 400w at 100% load. You can go with the 550w CX model for $10 more if you are that concerned, however. Just don't go with the PSU you have in your original build. As for storage, you can add an extra HDD in there if you want. I just gave you the bare-bones system with the best possible CPU/RAM/Mobo/GPU within the price range you requested, and an adequate SSD, PSU, and tower.

 

3600 RAM is certainly not the sweet spot. It's the most expensive spot with marginal gains over 3200. I agree that 3000 is no longer the best option, and I'd say 3200 is the sweet spot as the prices for 3200 aren't bad where the 3600 is still a premium. Steve at Gamers Nexus said that as well, by the way.

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with all taken into consideration, this is what i would suggest.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Hitachi - Deskstar 7K2000 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($38.88 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card  ($414.99 @ B&H) 
Case: *Deepcool - MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1032.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-20 16:32 EDT-0400

 

X570 mobo

32GB of ram, imo 3200MHz is not worth the $$ yet, you can easily OC the 3000Mhz kit to 3200MHz.

a 1TB HDD is NOT enough for Game Library + other storage and backups. My game library is already over 1TB, and i have like 20% of my games installed.

Decentish PSU (dont cheap out that is what will set your house on fire)


Main Rig: CPU: Intel® Core™ i9-9900K Processor  /// Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra /// CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i PRO RGB /// GPU: Gigabyte GTX1080 8G G1 Gaming /// RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32GB (4x8GB) 3000Mhz /// Chassis: Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C Blackout TG /// PSU: Corsair RM850x /// Storage: 500GB Samsung 860 EVO M.2 (boot) + 512GB WD SN520 NVMe (Working Drive) + Seagate BarraCuda 2TB (Game Library) + Seagate BarraCuda 3TB (Mass Storage) /// OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Peripherals (Main Rig): Mice: Logitech G603 Lightspeed /// Keyboard: Logitech G613 Wireless Mechanical Gaming Keyboard /// Tablet: Wacom Intuos M BT /// Monitor: 2x LG 27UL500-W (4K IPS Freesync) + Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM /// DAC: Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 /// Speakers: Logitech Z625 /// Mic: Focusrite CM25 MkII /// Headphones: Audio-Technica ATH-M50x /// Racing Wheel: Logitech G920 Driving Force with Shifter + Playseat® Revolution /// Printer: Canon imageCLASS MF635Cx /// External Drives: 500GB Samsung T5 SSD (Working Drive) + 1TB Seagate Backup Plus (Small Backups) + 500GB Seagate FreeAgent® GoFlexTM (Just for the GoFlex Sata adapter tbh)

 

HTPC: CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-4590S Processor  /// Motherboard: Asus H97M Plus /// CPU Cooler: Intel Stock Cooler /// GPU: Asus GTX 960 2G STRIX /// RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4GB) 1600Mhz /// Chassis: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L /// PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G+ /// Storage: 120GB SK Hynix SH920 SSD (boot) + Seagate BarraCuda 1TB (Game Library)  /// OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Peripherals (HTPC): Mice: Logitech G603 Lightspeed /// Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Touch Keyboard K400 Plus /// Monitor: Philips 42PFL4208 (42" 1080p TV) /// Speakers: Sonos Beam (Black)

 

Laptop (Asus UX430UN): CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-8550U Processor  /// Motherboard: Asus UX430UN /// CPU Cooler: Asus UX430UN /// GPU: NVIDIA GeForce MX150 /// RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) 2133Mhz /// Chassis: Asus UX430UN /// PSU: Asus ADP-65GD B AC Adapter /// Storage: 512GB SanDisk SD8SN8U512G1002 (boot) /// OS: Windows 10 Home

 

Peripherals I carry to school everyday because I cant take crappy membrane keyboards: Mice: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum /// Keyboard: CoolerMaster MasterKeys Pro L RGB - MX Blue

 

Other Tech: Console: Xbox One S 1TB /// Phone: Samsung Galaxy Note 9 128GB Midnight Black (Daily Driver) + Apple iPhone 8 Plus 64GB Space Grey /// Tablet: Apple iPad 9.7-inch Wi-Fi (2018) 32GB + Apple Pencil (1st Generation) /// Headphones: Jaybird RUN XT (Daily Driver), Klipsch R6i (When I forget to charge my Jaybirds), Samsung-AKG OEM IEMs (When I can't find my other IEMs)

 

Cameras: Bodies: Canon EOS R, Canon EOS-1D X, Canon EOS 5D Mark III, Sony A6000 /// Lenses: Canon EF 24-70mm F/4L IS USM, Canon EF 16-35mm F/2.8L II USM, Canon EF 70-200mm F/2.8L IS II USM, Sony SEL-P1650 E 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 PZ OSS /// Flashes: 2x Canon Speedlite 580EXII /// Tripods: Leofoto LS-324C Carbon Fiber Tripod + Leofoto LH-40 Ballhead, Leofoto MC-80 Multipurpose Clamp /// Yes, I am a Canon Fanboy, deal with it

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1 hour ago, berwynhan said:

with all taken into consideration, this is what i would suggest.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Hitachi - Deskstar 7K2000 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($38.88 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card  ($414.99 @ B&H) 
Case: *Deepcool - MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1032.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-20 16:32 EDT-0400

 

X570 mobo

32GB of ram, imo 3200MHz is not worth the $$ yet, you can easily OC the 3000Mhz kit to 3200MHz.

a 1TB HDD is NOT enough for Game Library + other storage and backups. My game library is already over 1TB, and i have like 20% of my games installed.

Decentish PSU (dont cheap out that is what will set your house on fire)

I agree, except one thing: that motherboard won't fit in that tower.

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9 hours ago, jerubedo said:

I agree, except one thing: that motherboard won't fit in that tower.

He has a point.


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Specs:

 

CPU: Dual Core Ultra Low Power Intel i5 @ 1.7GHz

GPU: Intel HD Graphics 4000

Memory: 8GB 1600MHz DDR3

Case: it's a laptop

FPS in minecraft with lowest settings possible: about 10

 

 

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2 hours ago, Catchears said:

He has a point.

right, thats a mistake on my part.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($198.90 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($154.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Hitachi - Deskstar 7K2000 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($38.88 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card  ($414.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1062.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-21 06:13 EDT-0400

 

It will fit in this case


Main Rig: CPU: Intel® Core™ i9-9900K Processor  /// Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra /// CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i PRO RGB /// GPU: Gigabyte GTX1080 8G G1 Gaming /// RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB 32GB (4x8GB) 3000Mhz /// Chassis: Fractal Design Define R6 USB-C Blackout TG /// PSU: Corsair RM850x /// Storage: 500GB Samsung 860 EVO M.2 (boot) + 512GB WD SN520 NVMe (Working Drive) + Seagate BarraCuda 2TB (Game Library) + Seagate BarraCuda 3TB (Mass Storage) /// OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Peripherals (Main Rig): Mice: Logitech G603 Lightspeed /// Keyboard: Logitech G613 Wireless Mechanical Gaming Keyboard /// Tablet: Wacom Intuos M BT /// Monitor: 2x LG 27UL500-W (4K IPS Freesync) + Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM /// DAC: Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 /// Speakers: Logitech Z625 /// Mic: Focusrite CM25 MkII /// Headphones: Audio-Technica ATH-M50x /// Racing Wheel: Logitech G920 Driving Force with Shifter + Playseat® Revolution /// Printer: Canon imageCLASS MF635Cx /// External Drives: 500GB Samsung T5 SSD (Working Drive) + 1TB Seagate Backup Plus (Small Backups) + 500GB Seagate FreeAgent® GoFlexTM (Just for the GoFlex Sata adapter tbh)

 

HTPC: CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-4590S Processor  /// Motherboard: Asus H97M Plus /// CPU Cooler: Intel Stock Cooler /// GPU: Asus GTX 960 2G STRIX /// RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4GB) 1600Mhz /// Chassis: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L /// PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G+ /// Storage: 120GB SK Hynix SH920 SSD (boot) + Seagate BarraCuda 1TB (Game Library)  /// OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Peripherals (HTPC): Mice: Logitech G603 Lightspeed /// Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Touch Keyboard K400 Plus /// Monitor: Philips 42PFL4208 (42" 1080p TV) /// Speakers: Sonos Beam (Black)

 

Laptop (Asus UX430UN): CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-8550U Processor  /// Motherboard: Asus UX430UN /// CPU Cooler: Asus UX430UN /// GPU: NVIDIA GeForce MX150 /// RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) 2133Mhz /// Chassis: Asus UX430UN /// PSU: Asus ADP-65GD B AC Adapter /// Storage: 512GB SanDisk SD8SN8U512G1002 (boot) /// OS: Windows 10 Home

 

Peripherals I carry to school everyday because I cant take crappy membrane keyboards: Mice: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum /// Keyboard: CoolerMaster MasterKeys Pro L RGB - MX Blue

 

Other Tech: Console: Xbox One S 1TB /// Phone: Samsung Galaxy Note 9 128GB Midnight Black (Daily Driver) + Apple iPhone 8 Plus 64GB Space Grey /// Tablet: Apple iPad 9.7-inch Wi-Fi (2018) 32GB + Apple Pencil (1st Generation) /// Headphones: Jaybird RUN XT (Daily Driver), Klipsch R6i (When I forget to charge my Jaybirds), Samsung-AKG OEM IEMs (When I can't find my other IEMs)

 

Cameras: Bodies: Canon EOS R, Canon EOS-1D X, Canon EOS 5D Mark III, Sony A6000 /// Lenses: Canon EF 24-70mm F/4L IS USM, Canon EF 16-35mm F/2.8L II USM, Canon EF 70-200mm F/2.8L IS II USM, Sony SEL-P1650 E 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 PZ OSS /// Flashes: 2x Canon Speedlite 580EXII /// Tripods: Leofoto LS-324C Carbon Fiber Tripod + Leofoto LH-40 Ballhead, Leofoto MC-80 Multipurpose Clamp /// Yes, I am a Canon Fanboy, deal with it

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