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Samsung begins mass production of 12Gb (gigabit) LPDDR5 DRAM

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https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-begins-mass-production-of-industrys-first-12gb-lpddr5-mobile-dram-for-premium-smartphones

 

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Samsung Electronics, the world leader in advanced memory technology, today announced that it has begun mass producing the industry’s first 12-gigabit (Gb) LPDDR5 mobile DRAM, which has been optimized for enabling 5G and AI features in future smartphones. The new mobile memory comes just five months after announcing mass production of the 12GB LPDDR4X, further reinforcing the company’s premium memory lineup. Samsung also plans to start mass producing 12-gigabyte (GB) LPDDR5 packages later this month, each combining eight of the 12Gb chips, in line with growing demand for higher smartphone performance and capacity from premium smartphone manufacturers.

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At a data rate of 5,500 megabits per second (Mb/s), the 12Gb LPDDR5 is approximately 1.3 times faster than previous mobile memory (LPDDR4X, 4266Mb/s) that is found in today’s high-end smartphones. When made into a 12GB package, the LPDDR5 is able to transfer 44GB of data, or about 12 full-HD (3.7GB-sized) movies, in only a second. The new chip also uses up to 30 percent less power than its predecessor by integrating a new circuit design with enhanced clocking, training and low-power feature that ensures stable performance even when operating at a blazingly fast speed.

 

In order to manage production capacity with more flexibility, Samsung is considering transferring its 12Gb LPDDR5 production to its Pyeongtaek (Korea) campus starting next year, depending on demand from global customers. Following its introduction of the 12Gb LPDDR5 mobile DRAM, Samsung expects to also develop a 16Gb LPDDR5 next year, to solidify its competitive edge in the global memory market.

 

https://www.phonearena.com/news/Note-10-release-Samsungs-12GB-16GB-DDR5-memory_id117553

 

Apparently Samsung phones might get LPDDR5. 

 

It's kind of nice to see DDR5 actually happen after years of waiting. Although it's also sad that my computer ram is now 2 whole generations behind a bloody smartphone lol.

 

I really can't wait to actually have DDR5 PC RAM, but it probably won't happen for a year or so.

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now will ddr3 laptop ram finally get replaced?


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37 minutes ago, will4623 said:

now will ddr3 laptop ram finally get replaced?

unlikely, as its still lower power consumption and most laptops do not need the extra performance offered by ddr4/ddr5

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This will be a very good improvement for new 5G flagships. I'll probably get a new phone once this and Android 10 phones get released. 


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Just now, COTG said:

unlikely, as its still lower power consumption and most laptops do not need the extra performance offered by ddr4/ddr5

well that will be the only not outdated thing in my laptop then.


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54 minutes ago, will4623 said:

now will ddr3 laptop ram finally get replaced?

It has already been completely replaced by DDR4 in laptops.

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2 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

It has already been completely replaced by DDR4 in laptops.

yes but not in most. Most laptops run ddr3 because it consumes less power.


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1 minute ago, will4623 said:

yes but not in most. Most laptops run ddr3 because it consumes less power.

DDR4 requires 1.2V while DDR3L requires 1.35V. DDR4 is more power efficient than DDR3.


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Just now, Bouzoo said:

DDR4 requires 1.2V while DDR3L requires 1.35V. DDR4 is more power efficient than DDR3.

wait I thought linus said ddr3 takes less power?


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Just now, Bouzoo said:

Funny but even Kingston uses LTT video for DDR4 efficiency.

 

https://www.kingston.com/en/community/ArticleDetail/ArticleID/665

Guess I am just an idiot.


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At a data rate of 5,500 megabits per second (Mb/s), the 12Gb LPDDR5 is approximately 1.3 times faster than previous mobile memory (LPDDR4X, 4266Mb/s)

Shouldn’t this be 1.3 times as fast, or simply 30% faster? 1.3 times faster would be 9,811Mb/s.


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26 minutes ago, will4623 said:

yes but not in most. Most laptops run ddr3 because it consumes less power.

 

New laptops pretty much exclusively use DDR4, which draws less power than DDR3.

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2 hours ago, realpetertdm said:

https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-begins-mass-production-of-industrys-first-12gb-lpddr5-mobile-dram-for-premium-smartphones

 

 

https://www.phonearena.com/news/Note-10-release-Samsungs-12GB-16GB-DDR5-memory_id117553

 

Apparently Samsung phones might get LPDDR5. 

 

It's kind of nice to see DDR5 actually happen after years of waiting. Although it's also sad that my computer ram is now 2 whole generations behind a bloody smartphone lol.

 

I really can't wait to actually have DDR5 PC RAM, but it probably won't happen for a year or so.

LPDDR5 has the same amount of bandwidth as DDR4.

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4 hours ago, sazrocks said:

Shouldn’t this be 1.3 times as fast, or simply 30% faster? 1.3 times faster would be 9,811Mb/s.

4266Mb/s times 1.3 is 5545.8Mb/s. Meaning it is 1.3 times faster than the 4266Mb/s. 30% faster is the .3 in the multiplication. They had an increase of speed of 1.3 times, or 30%. It's the same just a different way to show for it.

 

For example if I have $5,000 in a Certificate of Deposit and I ended up with $7500. I had an increase of 1.5 times or 50%.

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5 hours ago, sazrocks said:

Shouldn’t this be 1.3 times as fast, or simply 30% faster? 1.3 times faster would be 9,811Mb/s.

 

48 minutes ago, Dylanc1500 said:

4266Mb/s times 1.3 is 5545.8Mb/s. Meaning it is 1.3 times faster than the 4266Mb/s. 30% faster is the .3 in the multiplication. They had an increase of speed of 1.3 times, or 30%. It's the same just a different way to show for it.

 

For example if I have $5,000 in a Certificate of Deposit and I ended up with $7500. I had an increase of 1.5 times or 50%.

To add to this, @sazrocks, you're thinking of a 130% increase, which would be 2.3 times as fast.


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I don't know what low bitrate HD movies they watch, but mine take up 30-40GB each...


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20 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

I don't know what low bitrate HD movies they watch, but mine take up 30-40GB each...

 

I assume they're talking about legal sources like Apple Store, Prime Video or Netflix offline features for watching later. 

Not your torrented 40GB Remux of the bluray BDMV to MKV.

 

Those offered by the streaming services are typically around 4-7GB h.265 encoded (hevc) which offer much more density for storage, and stream well over HTML5 for the huge number of their customers who don't have 100Mbit+ or unlimited bandwidth. 


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4 minutes ago, Jarsky said:

 

I assume they're talking about legal sources like Apple Store, Prime Video or Netflix offline features for watching later. 

Not your torrented 40GB Remux of the bluray BDMV to MKV.

 

Those offered by the streaming services are typically around 4-7GB h.265 encoded (hevc) which offer much more density for storage, and stream well over HTML5 for the huge number of their customers who don't have 100Mbit+ or unlimited bandwidth. 

Make MKV negates the need for torrenting 😀


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8 hours ago, will4623 said:

now will ddr3 laptop ram finally get replaced?

Already has been. Lots of new laptops are using DDR4 now.


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Why in the world does 5G need LPDDR5 RAM? 4.2 Gb/s of LPDDR4X is more than enough for the idealistic 1 Gb/s 5G speeds (or am I missing something?)

 

Cool speed and efficiency improvements and all but does everyone really have to integrate the 5G and AI buzzword into everything?

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11 hours ago, The Benjamins said:

Can't wait for xXxLPDDR69xXx ram

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Next year phones are set to surpass my PC RAM wise. There's only one solution. Increase my PC to 32GB of RAM.

Seriously though, this is great news. While it might not be totally useful for everyone, it's always nice to have the option for those that can use it.

The Note is looking to be more and more tempting...


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