Faster CPU but FPS stayed the same? GTX 1080 bottleneck?

[Battletoad08]

I switched out my Ryzen 1700x for a new Ryzen 3700x, I did not change any other thing in my pc.

I did a bunch of benchmarks and saved the results to test them again with the new cpu in.

The tests are within 4-5 frames of the old CPU.

My GPU is always 98-99% in all the tests and my cpu is around 20%

Ive always been stuck at 2933 on the ram, if I try to put it at 3200 it wont post even with the new cpu.

 

All the new benchmarks that came out it seemed like I would have got anywhere from 10 to 30 FPS increase yet I got essentially nothing extra.

 

Specs:

Ryzen 3700x
GTX 1080

16bg Ripjaws DDR 3200
Asus x370 prime pro

Samsung M.2 main drive.

[Fasauceome]

performance target?

[Battletoad08]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

performance target?

performance target? I just wanted to gain some frames and got nothing basically. I expected to see some nice gains in FPS in games. I understand that GPU's give the biggest bump but I didnt expect to see no gain at all.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Battletoad08 said:

performance target? I just wanted to gain some frames and got nothing basically. I expected to see some nice gains in FPS in games. I understand that GPU's give the biggest bump but I didnt expect to see no gain at all.

like you said your GPU is at 100% already, maybe there's no more work the CPU can do? Are you going for 4k or something?

[Spotty]

8 minutes ago, Battletoad08 said:

My GPU is always 98-99% in all the tests and my cpu is around 20%

If your graphics card is at 99% then that means it's performing at its limits. It can't push any more frames.
CPU is just chilling and relaxing only giving 20% effort.

 

What resolution are you playing at, what games are you playing, and what graphical settings are you using?

[TheKDub]

6 minutes ago, Battletoad08 said:

My GPU is always 98-99% in all the tests and my cpu is around 20%

Sounds like a GPU bottleneck to me.

 

If your GPU is already hitting its limit, making other things faster won't change the fact that your GPU is hitting its limit.

[Battletoad08]

GPU's are almost always near 100% in game or they are being utilized correctly. The new CPU should have removed a little of the work the GPU does and raise the FPS some, but it didnt. I would be more concerned if the CPU said close to 100%.

[Battletoad08]

I agree it could be a GPU bottleneck but in nearly almost all games a GPU runs near its max to put out the most frames possible.

 

All the tests I did were at 2560x1080 all the highest graphics settings the games would go. Rise of the tomb raider, Resident Evil 2, Wildlands, GTA5, BF5, HellBlade...

[Brooksie359]

4 minutes ago, Battletoad08 said:

GPU's are almost always near 100% in game or they are being utilized correctly. The new CPU should have removed a little of the work the GPU does and raise the FPS some, but it didnt. I would be more concerned if the CPU said close to 100%.

That's not how that works at all. If you had a GPU working at 100% because it was running at a high resolution and settings getting a better CPU will literally do nothing. The only time you will be able to get an increase in performance is if your GPU had more headroom meaning it wasn't running at 100%. Yeah having your GPU at 100 usage is an ideal situation because means you dont have CPU bottleneck but that also means there is no reason to get a better CPU. 

[Spotty]

4 minutes ago, Battletoad08 said:

All the tests I did were at 2560x1080 all the highest graphics settings the games would go. Rise of the tomb raider, Resident Evil 2, Wildlands, GTA5, BF5, HellBlade...

What FPS did you get in those games/benchmarks? 2560x1080 isn't particularly graphically demanding, not for a GTX1080 at least.

If you want you can upload the gta5 benchmark results text file (Documents > Rockstar Games > GTA V > Benchmarks) and I can have a look at it. Just drag and drop the text file in to your post and it will upload it as an attachment.

[KarathKasun]

16 minutes ago, Battletoad08 said:

GPU's are almost always near 100% in game or they are being utilized correctly. The new CPU should have removed a little of the work the GPU does and raise the FPS some, but it didnt. I would be more concerned if the CPU said close to 100%.

No.  It does not work this way.  If GPU is at max load already, CPU upgrade will not change performance.

[Battletoad08]

Every game I own it puts nearly a 100% load on the GPU. I just tested borderlands 2 which is 7 years old and my GPU was at 95%.... at 2560x1080.

[Battletoad08]

In Rise of the Tomb Raider it averaged 76 FPS Wildlands Averaged about 52 FPS, GTA 5 I would have to guess would be around 90 FPS. All in ultra at 2560x1080.

[Turtle Rig]

40 minutes ago, Battletoad08 said:

I switched out my Ryzen 1700x for a new Ryzen 3700x, I did not change any other thing in my pc.

I did a bunch of benchmarks and saved the results to test them again with the new cpu in.

The tests are within 4-5 frames of the old CPU.

My GPU is always 98-99% in all the tests and my cpu is around 20%

Ive always been stuck at 2933 on the ram, if I try to put it at 3200 it wont post even with the new cpu.

 

All the new benchmarks that came out it seemed like I would have got anywhere from 10 to 30 FPS increase yet I got essentially nothing extra.

 

Specs:

Ryzen 3700x
GTX 1080

16bg Ripjaws DDR 3200
Asus x370 prime pro

Samsung M.2 main drive.

For your RAM loosten the timings a bit.  Or don't do that and raise her voltage a bit and you should get to your 3200+ and what not.

[Battletoad08]

What this is telling me since I never seen my 1700x get over 30% usage in games that it would never be a bottleneck in this system... When I see intel CPU's during gaming they are up near 90%

[Mister Woof]

23 minutes ago, Battletoad08 said:

What this is telling me since I never seen my 1700x get over 30% usage in games that it would never be a bottleneck in this system... When I see intel CPU's during gaming they are up near 90%

probably comparing them to 4/4 i5's or 4/8 i7's.

 

in those cases, their resources are being maxed out.

 

you can still have a CPU bottleneck on your 1700x at 30% - not all games are able to utilize all of your cores, but the cores they do use are getting hammered.

 

My 8700k rarely sees over 30% usage either in gaming, and yet even so, it can absolutely be a bottleneck in some games even at 25%.

[lawliot]

What game are you playing?

[Mick Naughty]

Don’t see an issue. Oc the card if you want frame increase. Or run a smaller resolution. 

[Madgemade]

GTX 1080 is over 3 years old and you are pairing it will a brand new CPU? You need a new faster GPU, RTX 2070 or better, before you will see any FPS improvement. Especially at resolutions over 1080p.

[RejZoR]

Question no one is asking, what CPU were you running prior 3700X ?

[Mick Naughty]

1 minute ago, RejZoR said:

Question no one is asking, what CPU were you running prior 3700X ?

That isn’t a question. They clearly mentioned that already. 

[Minidak]

Try a more CPU intensive load. Like CS:GO

[RejZoR]

1 hour ago, Mick Naughty said:

That isn’t a question. They clearly mentioned that already. 

I'm pretty sure when  read it first it just said he bough 3700X. I don't remember 1700X mention. Anyway, both 1700X and 3700X are fairly similar so there isn't much difference as expected. Same reason I'm questioning upgrade from 5820K to anything never coz it's just that fast in overclocked state that only 9900K at 5Ghz would make a difference that I could even notice. He's kinda experiencing the same thing...

[Battletoad08]

3 hours ago, RejZoR said:

I'm pretty sure when  read it first it just said he bough 3700X. I don't remember 1700X mention. Anyway, both 1700X and 3700X are fairly similar so there isn't much difference as expected. Same reason I'm questioning upgrade from 5820K to anything never coz it's just that fast in overclocked state that only 9900K at 5Ghz would make a difference that I could even notice. He's kinda experiencing the same thing...

Actually the 3700x is way faster than my 1700x was, the whole pc just fly's now. Single core and multi core is massively faster. I was hoping it would raise the frames some, but my gtx 1080 is out dated I guess lol. What I am gather I could put the fastest gaming CPU in the world in my setup and the frames would stay exactly the same at the same settings because the GPU is maxed.....

[RejZoR]

3 minutes ago, Battletoad08 said:

Actually the 3700x is way faster than my 1700x was, the whole pc just fly's now. Single core and multi core is massively faster. I was hoping it would raise the frames some, but my gtx 1080 is out dated I guess lol. What I am gather I could put the fastest gaming CPU in the world in my setup and the frames would stay exactly the same at the same settings because the GPU is maxed.....

Nah it's not outdated. It's still RTX 2070 and RX 5700XT performance level which are far from outdated.