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Posted · Original PosterOP

What are entry level CPUs? I thought entry level CPUs are low profile low end CPUs but after Hardware Unboxed said Quad cores are now entry level when they actually have a mid-range performance, Can you tell me what are entry level CPUs today? And how many years will it get you by on 1080p above 30 FPS after they are made? And is it fine to buy a Quad core in 2019?

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It's generally to do with price. 

 

With Intel, i3s are generally entry level, with i5s being mid level and i7s being high end.

 

Newer Intel i3s are now quad cores, hence quad core entry level. AMD's offerings in the similar price/performance bracket are also quad core or above. 

 

It's difficult to comment on how long it will last. Lots of factors come in to play. And whether you're fine with a quad core really depends on what you're doing.

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4 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

It's generally to do with price. 

 

With Intel, i3s are generally entry level, with i5s being mid level and i7s being high end.

 

Newer Intel i3s are now quad cores, hence quad core entry level. AMD's offerings in the similar price/performance bracket are also quad core or above. 

 

It's difficult to comment on how long it will last. Lots of factors come in to play. And whether you're fine with a quad core really depends on what you're doing.

I like playing open world triple A games, and how are quad cores exactly called entry level when a quad core i7 7700(k) considered high end? I own an i5 4590, is it now considered entry level? And entry level is made for heavy gaming for 2 or 3 years, Right?

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11 minutes ago, InfinityVive said:

I like playing open world triple A games, and how are quad cores exactly called entry level when a quad core i7 7700(k) considered high end? I own an i5 4590, is it now considered entry level? And entry level is made for heavy gaming for 2 or 3 years, Right?

"entry level" doesn't mean heavy gaming for 2-3 years anymore, i'd say 1080p low with amd apus would be entry level, mid range would be a 3600x+whatever gpu for said resolution, high end would just be any 144hz gaming rig.

 

I don't know where the 7700k fits in exactly, but let's just call it bad. it's worse than a 3600x and doesnt have competent dedicated gfx compared to an apu.


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27 minutes ago, xg32 said:

"entry level" doesn't mean heavy gaming for 2-3 years anymore, i'd say 1080p low with amd apus would be entry level, mid range would be a 3600x+whatever gpu for said resolution, high end would just be any 144hz gaming rig.

 

I don't know where the 7700k fits in exactly, but let's just call it bad. it's worse than a 3600x and doesnt have competent dedicated gfx compared to an apu.

Its only a 8 thread and not a beast.  Meant for e-mail and browsing and office apps and modded DOS terminal apps.  If you don't overclock that chip to at least 4.4Ghz then your gonna get bottleneck depending on which video card you choose and game you play.  It is a nice system for CS:GO and imo that's about it.  But most AAA games should have a sustained 60fps with no real drop except special occasions.


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9 hours ago, xg32 said:

"entry level" doesn't mean heavy gaming for 2-3 years anymore, i'd say 1080p low with amd apus would be entry level, mid range would be a 3600x+whatever gpu for said resolution, high end would just be any 144hz gaming rig.

 

I don't know where the 7700k fits in exactly, but let's just call it bad. it's worse than a 3600x and doesnt have competent dedicated gfx compared to an apu.

 

Humm so how many years will my i5 4590 carry me around? Also you will be able to hit medium settings if you put an rx 570 or gtx 1660, right? Because these integrated gpus are definitely bottleneck.

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9 hours ago, Turtle Rig said:

Its only a 8 thread and not a beast.  Meant for e-mail and browsing and office apps and modded DOS terminal apps.  If you don't overclock that chip to at least 4.4Ghz then your gonna get bottleneck depending on which video card you choose and game you play.  It is a nice system for CS:GO and imo that's about it.  But most AAA games should have a sustained 60fps with no real drop except special occasions.

It is on par with i7 8700k, so stop calling it "bad"

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5 minutes ago, InfinityVive said:

It is on par with i7 8700k, so stop calling it "bad"

Actually the i7 7700K os more on pair with the i5 8400


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3 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Actually the i7 7700K os more on pair with the i5 8400

So it is not bad, It is mid-range, so are some quad cores now mid range and others entry level? I wish I could raise my CPU to mid-range but it's overclcok option is locked very tight IDK what to do, you know any good LGA 1150 CPUs? So I can upgrade CPU without having to upgrade the whole system.

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1 minute ago, InfinityVive said:

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I mean the best CPU you can use with your ddr3 and motherboard is the i7 4790K or the rare i7 5775C

 

Both are still fine CPU for gaming but they will lack behind the latest alternatives.

 

The thing about quadcores being entry level now is simply because the core count has increased in every tier, i7's have the double of physical cores nowadays and mid range has become hexacores.


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29 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

I mean the best CPU you can use with your ddr3 and motherboard is the i7 4790K or the rare i7 5775C

 

Both are still fine CPU for gaming but they will lack behind the latest alternatives.

 

The thing about quadcores being entry level now is simply because the core count has increased in every tier, i7's have the double of physical cores nowadays and mid range has become hexacores.

Hmm, Okay, but how much entry level CPUs survive after they be made if you pair them with a decent GPU? Also what about athlon 220g, is it now entry level?

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Just now, InfinityVive said:

Hmm, Okay, but how much entry level CPUs survive after they be made if you pair them with a decent GPU?

That's really not how you should think, what GPU and what display settings are you thinking on?


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47 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

That's really not how you should think, what GPU and what display settings are you thinking on?

I use i5 4590, 16 GB RAM, Radeon rx 570 8 GB, 1080p, that is pretty much enough at least today, right? I mean I spent 200 dollars for that new i5 4590, I don't want to be disappointed.

 

 

Edit: why no one replied yet.

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1 hour ago, InfinityVive said:

use i5 4590, 16 GB RAM, Radeon rx 570 8 GB, 1080p, that is pretty much enough at least today, right? I mean I spent 200 dollars for that new i5 4590, I don't want

I mean... It's you who should tell us if it's enough, is this computer able to play your games satisfactory? If yes then it's 'enough' right?

 

But 200 dollars on an i5 4690 is a terrible value purchase when the Ryzen 5 3600 easily outperforms it and is priced the same 200 bucks brand new.


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3 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

I mean... It's you who should tell us if it's enough, is this computer able to play your games satisfactory? If yes then it's 'enough' right?

 

But 200 dollars on an i5 4690 is a terrible value purchase when the Ryzen 5 3600 easily outperforms it and is priced the same 200 bucks brand new.

It was the only available in the Local Market, So I had no other choice : / at-least it is better than i3 8100, Or similar to it.

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What are entry level CPUs? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Something you should generally avoid, unless you like wasting money. Save up a little longer, and get a mid-range CPU.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 hours ago, Plutosaurus said:

What are entry level CPUs? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Something you should generally avoid, unless you like wasting money. Save up a little longer, and get a mid-range CPU.

Not really if that CPU is the only thing available in Local Market, you just still don't know how it feels to be limited by local market.

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1 hour ago, InfinityVive said:

Not really if that CPU is the only thing available in Local Market, you just still don't know how it feels to be limited by local market.

Ebay, Amazon, Alibaba, non of those ship to your country?

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18 minutes ago, Johnny Who said:

Ebay, Amazon, Alibaba, non of those ship to your country?

Yes, RIP me, But Souq.com (sometimes) does but the Shipping price costs me Twice the item I ordered does lol.

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