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1-2 Switch Switch - Nintendo Releases reasonably priced Nintendo Switch Lite

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2 hours ago, kaiju_wars said:

All in all, it's a cheaper Switch.  That's fine.

We can have a lesser product as a result, that's also fine.
But we shouldn't accept what, in my opinion, is too much of a lesser product, for lack of a better term.

The thing that really gets to me about this is that to hit a lower price point, they basically removed most of what made a Switch......a Switch.

 

Maybe that’s what some people want but given that a standard Switch with the dock and all the Switch features can be had for not much more, the value proposition of the Lite is less rosy to me. The Switch itself is rather underpowered but people got them due to its game library and unique form factor. Take the latter and you still have the game library, but you’re also left with “just another handheld gaming device”. 


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2 hours ago, TheSLSAMG said:

That would be more interesting to see. You could have a more traditional console experience (and maybe you can even target slightly better performance through higher clocks and beefier active cooling.) 

Yep. The mobility of the switch is nice, but I only undock it when I'm in the comfort of my own home. Even if it was the same specs, I would buy...though I wouldn't turn down a free upgrade either 😎

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4 hours ago, Nowak said:

Been reading that it does have gyro.

 

3 hours ago, Crossbred said:

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I would find it strange that it would have no gyro if they advertise it alongside BoTW... I played the game mostly off the dock solely because the tilt controls felt better for arrows. 

Similar to the "no hd rumble", it doesn't mean no rumble but it does mean it's gonna be inferior *if it's there.

 

Ends up I was incorrect on lack of motion controls, I updated my post already.A0BB1FE9-BA9B-4297-9D3A-A568D0FDB80A.jpeg.3c57141dca80af4a92bea84e0e11877b.jpeg


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1 hour ago, D13H4RD said:

The thing that really gets to me about this is that to hit a lower price point, they basically removed most of what made a Switch......a Switch.

 

Maybe that’s what some people want but given that a standard Switch with the dock and all the Switch features can be had for not much more, the value proposition of the Lite is less rosy to me. The Switch itself is rather underpowered but people got them due to its game library and unique form factor. Take the latter and you still have the game library, but you’re also left with “just another handheld gaming device”. 

Honestly, I was expecting a cut down Switch... I wasn’t expecting it to be this cut down.  I think defending it at this point isn’t right.  But that’s my personal opinion on the matter.


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4 minutes ago, kaiju_wars said:

Ends up I was incorrect on lack of motion controls, I updated my post already.

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Yeah, I figured. They wouldn't advertise gyro-heavy games if it didn't have gyro.

 

Apparently the lack of HD Rumble and smaller screen allows for the slightly better battery life? So some tradeoffs were necessary to make it a better portable experience.

 

I myself will pass as I already own a Switch but I wonder if my sister would be interested. She's still on the 3DS and Wii. Zelda and Pokémon, mostly.


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1 minute ago, Nowak said:

Yeah, I figured. They wouldn't advertise gyro-heavy games if it didn't have gyro.

 

Apparently the lack of HD Rumble and smaller screen allows for the slightly better battery life? So some tradeoffs were necessary to make it a better portable experience.

 

I myself will pass as I already own a Switch but I wonder if my sister would be interested. She's still on the 3DS and Wii. Zelda and Pokémon, mostly.

Eh, for not much more you can get the full switch.  I’d honestly say hard pass on the Lite


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Just now, kaiju_wars said:

Eh, for not much more you can get the full switch.  I’d honestly say hard pass on the Lite

idk I think my sister would prefer a dedicated handheld. There definitely is a market for the Lite.


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I think that it's clearly designed for those people who only wants a handheld console but, actually Switch is already a handheld.

For me, the biggest problwm with this Lite is the screen, some games like Monster Hunter and probably (I hadn't bought it yet) Dark Souls should be a bit "hard" (I don't find the word i'm looking for xD) to play.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Donki Knog said:

I think that it's clearly designed for those people who only wants a handheld console but, actually Switch is already a handheld.

For me, the biggest problwm with this Lite is the screen, some games like Monster Hunter and probably (I hadn't bought it yet) Dark Souls should be a bit "hard" (I don't find the word i'm looking for xD) to play.

 

 

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Basically to me it seems like a fine device for a lot of people, but the pricing is wayyyyy off in the UK. You can get a OG Switch in near brand new condition for the same price. And price is kinda the only advantage of the switch lite, i dont really see why anyone would buy it if it was more expensive (which it kinda is in the UK if you look on ebay/etc) than the OG switch.

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On 7/10/2019 at 1:35 PM, rcmaehl said:

Nintendo has announced the Nintendo Switch lite at only $199. A full 1/3 off the base model price. 

Hey not bad, it'll make for a nice birthday/Christmas present if anybody I know wants a Switch but doesn't need the joycon modularity.


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14 hours ago, Drak3 said:

That means that there is a design flaw and third party companies are trying to fix it because Nintendo won't.

 

The common user shouldn't have to fix bad design. Especially for a "kid's console."

If it came with a different controller you would be ITT complaining about it too. I have no issues with the ergonomics of the Joycons. I would argue that hundred of thousands of people don't and that a similar amount do. The company can't produce something that everybody likes, stop acting like they could. 

 

They allow third party controller support and that is all we can ask for. How is it bad that you have the option to use a different controller? Just because some people find the stock controller un-ergonomic doesn't just make it bad.

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I will buy this. Don't have a switch yet, and was looking for a cheaper option. There were never any pricedrops or good deals to be found.

 

I would have used the switch exclusively handheld most likely anyway, so this is perfect for me.

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Well, first off: 2/3 of the price.

Second, I'm actually pretty interested of the internals. The device is quite a bit smaller than the standard Nerdtender Snitch, but the battery life (notably in BOTW) is longer by 30 minutes to an hour. I wonder if they switched to the Pascal architecture and/or did a die shrink. I'm thinking probably the latter, since there might be compatibility issues with some games on a newer architecture.


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I slept on this thread, and now I'm conflicted.

 

My 3DS is gathering dust on a shelf because I'm always playing consoles or PC games. I never really want to come home, sit down, crane my neck over, and play a handheld game. Clearly I'm not the audience for this.

 

On the other hand, though, if this means they release a TV-only switch...

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I'm interested (I was not so much before). I wonder what the screen/graphical quality is like at 720p?


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On 7/10/2019 at 6:55 AM, Drak3 said:

And?

 

Again, and?

 

The Switch itself is an inferior offering as a home console, physical design is worse than a stock Vita. Nintendo made too many compromises, and the only up side to this piece of shit is that it's portable.

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God I really hope they don't do some super cool designs like they did with the 3DS, because I have no reason to own two Nintendo Switches.

 

Somebody tweeted this and I would buy it in a heartbeat.

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This actually looks really fucking cool. I might consider getting one considering I love a lot of Nintendo games (most stuff in the Mario franchise like Mario Kart and SMB, never really played Pokemon or anything else lol).

 

 

This is more of a general Switch question, but what kind of backwards compatibility does the Switch have? Any chance it can play Wii games? :P


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I'm surprised so many people have a problem with this - it's fully 1/3rd cheaper than the full Switch, and has the same performance capabilities. This is what people wanted. A portable Switch that was cheaper.

 

Want all the features the Switch has? Then buy the full blown Switch.

 

I would also like Nintendo to make a non-undockable "Console Only" Switch too - to cater to those who never use handheld. The perfect lineup to me would be:

1. Handheld only Switch Lite ($199)

2. Regular Switch ($299)

3. Console only Switch ($349)

 

But even with just options 1 and 2? Still a great hardware lineup. For those who are saying $100 isn't enough of a discount? Really? It's only a $300 base price. $100 off is one third the price. That's damn good. For those who can afford the extra $100, just buy the full Switch.


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1 hour ago, dalekphalm said:

I'm surprised so many people have a problem with this - it's fully 1/3rd cheaper than the full Switch, and has the same performance capabilities. This is what people wanted. A portable Switch that was cheaper.

 

Want all the features the Switch has? Then buy the full blown Switch.

 

I would also like Nintendo to make a non-undockable "Console Only" Switch too - to cater to those who never use handheld. The perfect lineup to me would be:

1. Handheld only Switch Lite ($199)

2. Regular Switch ($299)

3. Console only Switch ($349)

 

But even with just options 1 and 2? Still a great hardware lineup. For those who are saying $100 isn't enough of a discount? Really? It's only a $300 base price. $100 off is one third the price. That's damn good. For those who can afford the extra $100, just buy the full Switch.

I have to disagree.  

It's 1/3rd cheaper than a regular switch, for more than 1/3 less features.  Personally I think the best price would be... $180 at most.  

I like the Lite, mostly.  (Hell, I love the design, a lot!).  (You can read my hottake on the last page).  But I think it would have been perfect if it had the ability to be docked.

Not come with a dock, mind you.  Just have the ability to dock.

While the smaller screen is perfect for portability, which I also like that decision... you can also use other controllers (such as other joycons as Nintendo has said).  That's fine and cool, except, you're stuck with a screen smaller than a lot of phones now (my phone has a bigger screen, for example), and there's no kickstand to prop it up in those instances.
I think they should have included a kickstand, or made it dockable in this case.


The advertising shows it being used a lot in multiplayer, which I think is cool.  A group of friends hanging out is even shown.  So since it's portable and you're expected to bring it everywhere with you (obvious exaggeration, but still).  What if you bring it to your friend's house?  That would be cool if you could quickly slap it in your friend's dock to play a quick game of Mario Kart on your save file, or want to show him a new game?  Now you have to hunch over each other's shoulders.  


It's a portable switch, but the regular switch is too.  The Switch line also means how it switches from home, to portable.  It's not a Switch now except for (most) software support.  (there are some software that won't work on the Lite.)  It's basically GameBoy Advance 2.0, IMO.

And with the used and refurbished market.  (Hell, you can get a refurbished Switch from Nintendo for $260) the value proposition really starts dropping in my eyes.

 

I think if they just included the ability to be docked.  They'd have knocked it out of the park.  Buying everything separate that comes with a regular Switch is more than $100 altogether, but it would have made value for both the regular Switch and the Lite.  The Lite could have been the perfect starter console.  Could get a dock later down the road, maybe a pro controller or wired controller.  


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