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Do NVMe SSDs really need a heat sink?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

After a bit of research and consulting my motherboard's manual, to my dismay the M.2 slot that actually supported  NVMe 1.3 speeds was the one covered by a heatsink screwed to the mobo. As I was installing the SSD I wondered if it even made a difference; the only reason I put the heat sink back on is the motherboard looks nicer with it on. I mean to be fair the slot is right below the CPU and right above where my gpu is, so I supposed it's subjected to a fair amount of heat but still...


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Yes and no. When the Samsung 950 Pro came out, it was found you could cause it to thermal throttle, but it would only get to that condition if you were constantly working it. I wouldn't put it past subsequent high performance NVMe SSDs to have a similar issue.

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Not necessarily required (on models I’ve seen) but it does prevent a lot of heat from collecting in/on the drive itself. Basic rule with computers is that less heat equals longer life for hardware.

 

Also, thermal throttling is something to consider.

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Definitely recommended, especially if you actually use it like it's meant to be used.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
15 minutes ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

Yes and no. When the Samsung 950 Pro came out, it was found you could cause it to thermal throttle, but it would only get to that condition if you were constantly working it. I wouldn't put it past subsequent high performance NVMe SSDs to have a similar issue.

I just browse the web, game, edit photos in Photoshop and write /compile code on my PC, I'd imagine none of those are intensive applications regarding storage. 


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Just now, ScootsMcgoots said:

I just browse the web, game, edit photos in Photoshop and write /compile code on my PC, I'd imagine none of those are intensive applications regarding storage. 

Yeah, you're not in the use case that would really hammer an NVMe drive to the point of needing thermal management.

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2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Definitely recommended, especially if you actually use it like it's meant to be used.

idk if I'm using it as "intended" lol, I just got it since 1tb for 140 USD (and being an actually nvme drive) wasn't bad at all, plus at my college we've found tensor flow projects run significant faster on better storage, which I would benefit from.


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2 minutes ago, ScootsMcgoots said:

idk if I'm using it as "intended" lol, I just got it since 1tb for 140 USD (and being an actually nvme drive) wasn't bad at all, plus at my college we've found tensor flow projects run significant faster on better storage, which I would benefit from.

Well if you're using the drive at its full speed for more than a few minutes at a time, you should definitely put heatsinks on it.


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Mine doesn’t, it’s in a good airflow spot and I don’t think it works too hard. It sits under 60.

 

Its my boot drive but not much else on it.


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1 minute ago, Enderman said:

Well if you're using the drive at its full speed for more than a few minutes at a time, you should definitely put heatsinks on it.

Now that you mention it I've never measured what the drive actually reads/writes at when I'm running machine learning stuff praying I'm training it right lol. As I mentioned I put the heatsink back on as it looked more aesthetically pleasing. Also I swear heavy IDEs like Android studio or eclipse boot up and also load up workspaces wayyy faster, maybe cause of the superior random read/write speeds?


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5 minutes ago, ScootsMcgoots said:

Also I swear heavy IDEs like Android studio or eclipse boot up and also load up workspaces wayyy faster, maybe cause of the superior random read/write speeds?

Yes, that's one of the benefits of NVME ssds.

Optane is even better than anything samsung makes.


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Something to consider, if the ambiance temp is kinda low.....

Nvme drives works better at a little worm temp 30~40c 


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So I heard that the NAND chips benefit from heat, however the controller will throttle if it's too hot, does anybody have some numbers on that matter? I think even one of the recent LTT videos mentioned this.

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On 7/10/2019 at 1:59 AM, Enderman said:

Yes, that's one of the benefits of NVME ssds.

Optane is even better than anything samsung makes.

Funny thing I noticed; while playing games where the CPU and GPU radiate a ton of heat, according to crystaldisk info the NVMe ssd is the coolest of all of my drives (the rest are SATA), about 5-6 c cooler than the rest. Either the SSD cooler is a pretty decent heat dissipater, or a decent heat shield lol.


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2 minutes ago, ScootsMcgoots said:

Funny thing I noticed; while playing games where the CPU and GPU radiate a ton of heat, according to crystaldisk info the NVMe ssd is the coolest of all of my drives (the rest are SATA), about 5-6 c cooler than the rest. Either the SSD cooler is a pretty decent heat dissipater, or a decent heat shield lol.

Playing games barely uses an NVME SSD.

 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Playing games barely uses an NVME SSD.

 

I'm not attributing the heat to any drive's usage; the C drive (the nvme ssd) would've been literally the only drive getting used at that moment. The SSD that was significantly hotter is empty with no files on it whatsoever.  I was just saying the heat sink might shield it from the heat being outputted by the CPU and GPU. 


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