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Posted · Original PosterOP

I'm a pretty big amateur when it comes to PC's but from what I'm seeing online my specs should provide much higher FPS than I'm getting.

 

Specs:

 

  • CPU - AMD Athlon II X4 860K
  • GPU - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960
  • RAM - Kingston 9905584-032.A 2x4GB
  • Drive - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB

 

My Monitor is ASUS VS228 (60Hz) but I don't think that is the reason why I'm getting between 40-60 FPS for most games like CSGO & Overwatch when I'm running them at Medium to low graphics (sometimes even lower FPS!)

 

I also have an issue where when I'm playing overwatch it says I have run out of memory and the game will crash even though I am only running Overwatch and the Blizzard.net app. This isn't constant and happens every now and again but recently it has become a bit more often.

 

All of my drivers are up to date as far as I'm aware and I recently did a benchmark test - 

 

UserBenchmarks: Game 34%, Desk 39%, Work 26%
CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 860K - 49.4%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 960 - 39.5%
HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - 98.4%
RAM: Kingston 9905584-032.A 2x4GB - 36.8%
MBD: Gigabyte GA-F2A78M-HD2

 

 

If anyone has any help or advice on what I can do to improve my FPS & Memory issues then it would be much appreciated! Thanks.

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your first problem is the cpu, yesterday i moved from that same cpu to a ryzen, ix4 860k is a cheap and weak cpu, will not push to the limits that gtx gpu

 

the out of ram sounds like a vram setting you need to reconfigure, perhaps lower textures on the game or lower filtering so vram is enough, for that gpu is better to use textures to medium so it doesnt hit the 2gbs of vram limit

 

cs:go prefers new ryzen or intel cpus, your cpu is the limit there, you will not get more because game depends on single core performace and that cpu doesnt have much single core performace

 

consider moving to a better cpu, a ryzen or a i5, it will require new motherboard and new ram

 

the gpu i would replace it soon too, the vram limit is really annoying and is a problem on most new games, old multiplayer games like cs go dont have problems with that really but newer games will want to have 4gbs of vram

 

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
8 hours ago, goto10 said:

your first problem is the cpu, yesterday i moved from that same cpu to a ryzen, ix4 860k is a cheap and weak cpu, will not push to the limits that gtx gpu

 

the out of ram sounds like a vram setting you need to reconfigure, perhaps lower textures on the game or lower filtering so vram is enough, for that gpu is better to use textures to medium so it doesnt hit the 2gbs of vram limit

 

cs:go prefers new ryzen or intel cpus, your cpu is the limit there, you will not get more because game depends on single core performace and that cpu doesnt have much single core performace

 

consider moving to a better cpu, a ryzen or a i5, it will require new motherboard and new ram

 

the gpu i would replace it soon too, the vram limit is really annoying and is a problem on most new games, old multiplayer games like cs go dont have problems with that really but newer games will want to have 4gbs of vram

 

 

Any recommendations that are within a budget? 

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2 hours ago, Varn said:

Any recommendations that are within a budget? 

whats your budget?


Gaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600x     Cooler: Corsair H60     RAM: G.Skill Tridentz RGB 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Asus B450-F Gaming

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 580 8gb     Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark TG     PSU: Corsair RM850x     

Storage: 250gb Samsung 960 EVO, 2TB Seagate Barracuda

 

Streaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600     Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a     RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi ITX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4gb     Case: Fractal Design Node 202     PSU: Corsair SF600    

Storage: 120gb Kingston A400, 500gb Samsung 860 EVO

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Posted · Original PosterOP
10 hours ago, driftz240 said:

whats your budget?

I'd say between 300 & 400 GBP. Could possibly go a bit beyond that if it's absolutely necessary. I don't want to spend loads on these upgrades but I understand I need some kind of noticeable upgrade

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3 hours ago, Varn said:

I'd say between 300 & 400 GBP. Could possibly go a bit beyond that if it's absolutely necessary. I don't want to spend loads on these upgrades but I understand I need some kind of noticeable upgrade

I would say its about time for a new system since the 960 is starting to show its age and if you wanted to upgrade your cpu then you'd need a new motherboard, ram, and possibly psu. Unless your absolutely set on upgrading instead of starting fresh, id just save up and sell your previous system and gpu.


Gaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600x     Cooler: Corsair H60     RAM: G.Skill Tridentz RGB 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Asus B450-F Gaming

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 580 8gb     Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark TG     PSU: Corsair RM850x     

Storage: 250gb Samsung 960 EVO, 2TB Seagate Barracuda

 

Streaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600     Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a     RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi ITX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4gb     Case: Fractal Design Node 202     PSU: Corsair SF600    

Storage: 120gb Kingston A400, 500gb Samsung 860 EVO

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Posted · Original PosterOP
10 hours ago, driftz240 said:

I would say its about time for a new system since the 960 is starting to show its age and if you wanted to upgrade your cpu then you'd need a new motherboard, ram, and possibly psu. Unless your absolutely set on upgrading instead of starting fresh, id just save up and sell your previous system and gpu.

Ahh, wish you wasn't going to say that haha. Thanks for your advice anyway.

 

Just a quickie, what would you recommend? 

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2 minutes ago, Varn said:

Ahh, wish you wasn't going to say that haha. Thanks for your advice anyway.

 

Just a quickie, what would you recommend? 

A B450 motherboard with a Ryzen 5 3600 and at least 8GB of memory in 2x4GB configuration although 16gb in 2x8gb configuration would be the most optimal setup, you should be able to afford it with 400GBP.

 

Might wanna consider a new PSU as well if yours low end and old, you don't want brand new hardware getting fried up due to outdated PSU.


Workstation Rig:
CPU:  Intel Core i9 9900K @4.7ghz  |~| Cooling: Noctua NH-U12P |~|  MOBO: Asus Z390M ROG Maximus XI GENE |~| RAM: 32gb 3200mhz CL16 G.Skill Trident Z RGB |~| GPU: nVidia TITAN V  |~| PSU: Corsair RM850X 80Plus Gold |~| Boot: WD Black M.2 2280 500GB NVMe |~| Storage: 2X4TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Iron Wolf + 2X2TB SSD SanDisk Ultra |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display: ASUS ROG Swift PG348Q 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
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CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk SSD Plus G26 480gb |~| Case: Cooler Master Case Pro 3 |~| Display Setup: Acer X34 3440x1440p100hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.
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1 hour ago, Varn said:

Just a quickie, what would you recommend? 

 

1 hour ago, Princess Luna said:

A B450 motherboard with a Ryzen 5 3600 and at least 8GB of memory in 2x4GB configuration although 16gb in 2x8gb configuration would be the most optimal setup, you should be able to afford it with 400GBP.

 

Might wanna consider a new PSU as well if yours low end and old, you don't want brand new hardware getting fried up due to outdated PSU.

You could also get a 2600 instead for pretty cheap now (at least in the us, dont know about in the uk) since 3rd gen ryzen came out.


Gaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600x     Cooler: Corsair H60     RAM: G.Skill Tridentz RGB 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Asus B450-F Gaming

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 580 8gb     Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark TG     PSU: Corsair RM850x     

Storage: 250gb Samsung 960 EVO, 2TB Seagate Barracuda

 

Streaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600     Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a     RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi ITX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4gb     Case: Fractal Design Node 202     PSU: Corsair SF600    

Storage: 120gb Kingston A400, 500gb Samsung 860 EVO

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Posted (edited) · Original PosterOP
8 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

A B450 motherboard with a Ryzen 5 3600 and at least 8GB of memory in 2x4GB configuration although 16gb in 2x8gb configuration would be the most optimal setup, you should be able to afford it with 400GBP.

 

Might wanna consider a new PSU as well if yours low end and old, you don't want brand new hardware getting fried up due to outdated PSU.

 

Gigabyte B450M DS3HAMD Ryzen 5 3600 Processor (6C/12T, 35MB Cache, 4.2 GHz Max Boost)Corsair CMK8GX4M2C3000C16 Vengeance LPX 8GB Kit (2 x 4GB) DDR4 3000MHz

 

Are they okay? Just want to make sure before I spend any money lol

 

Thanks for your help though!

 

P.S - What PSU would you recommend with those specs?

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Posted · Original PosterOP
7 hours ago, driftz240 said:

 

You could also get a 2600 instead for pretty cheap now (at least in the us, dont know about in the uk) since 3rd gen ryzen came out.

Is there any significant difference between 2600 and 3600? Like would I be able to tell one is moderately cheaper than the other when playing average games and doing misc stuff on my pc?

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10 minutes ago, Varn said:

Is there any significant difference between 2600 and 3600? Like would I be able to tell one is moderately cheaper than the other when playing average games and doing misc stuff on my pc?

The 3600 is actually quite a bit better than the 2600.


Main Desktop: Cpu - I7-8700k @5ghz | Mobo - Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E | Gpu - Evga GTX 1080ti FTW3 Ram - Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3000mhz | Aio - H100i Pro RGB | Psu - Evga 850 GQ | Case - Fractal Design Meshify C White | Storage - Samsung 970 Pro M.2 NVME SSD 1x 1TB 1x 512GB / 1x Seagate Ironwolf Pro 4TB HDD |

 

TV Streaming PC: Intel Nuc CPU - i7 8th Gen | RAM - 16GB DDR4 2666mhz | Storage - 256GB WD Black M.2 NVME SSD |

 

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5 hours ago, Varn said:

Is there any significant difference between 2600 and 3600? Like would I be able to tell one is moderately cheaper than the other when playing average games and doing misc stuff on my pc?

 

5 hours ago, SpookyCitrus said:

The 3600 is actually quite a bit better than the 2600.

In day to day tasks, no. In gaming and multithreaded workloads, sort of. While the 3600 is better than the 2600, the 2600 can be had for about 130 usd vs the 200usd of the 3600 in the US.


Gaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600x     Cooler: Corsair H60     RAM: G.Skill Tridentz RGB 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Asus B450-F Gaming

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 580 8gb     Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark TG     PSU: Corsair RM850x     

Storage: 250gb Samsung 960 EVO, 2TB Seagate Barracuda

 

Streaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600     Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a     RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi ITX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4gb     Case: Fractal Design Node 202     PSU: Corsair SF600    

Storage: 120gb Kingston A400, 500gb Samsung 860 EVO

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i bougth that same motherboard this week, it came with a old bios, so it wouldnt run ryzen 3000 cpus, be sure to buy one that already comes with the latest bios, seller can confirm you that, otherwise dont buy it, cpu wont work

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3 hours ago, goto10 said:

i bougth that same motherboard this week, it came with a old bios, so it wouldnt run ryzen 3000 cpus, be sure to buy one that already comes with the latest bios, seller can confirm you that, otherwise dont buy it, cpu wont work

Some places will update the bios for you if you ask and sometimes even for free.


Gaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600x     Cooler: Corsair H60     RAM: G.Skill Tridentz RGB 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Asus B450-F Gaming

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Devil RX 580 8gb     Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark TG     PSU: Corsair RM850x     

Storage: 250gb Samsung 960 EVO, 2TB Seagate Barracuda

 

Streaming Rig:

CPU: Ryzen 5 1600     Cooler: Noctua NH-L9a     RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16gb 3200mhz     Mobo: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro Wifi ITX

Graphics Card: Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4gb     Case: Fractal Design Node 202     PSU: Corsair SF600    

Storage: 120gb Kingston A400, 500gb Samsung 860 EVO

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