X570 and Thunderbolt 3

[benjaminduk]

I've been looking through the new AMD X570 motherboards and it seems that only the Asrock Motherboards support Thunderbolt 3 either directly or through an expansion card. I know that Thunderbolt is an Intel system, which means it needs to be licensed, but I find it kind of strange that only Asrock is supporting Thunderbolt 3 and not the other main manufacturers like Asus, MSI, Gigabyte. 

 

Unless I'm missing something of course.

 

[DrMacintosh]

Thunderbolt 4 is going to be what you want. Though idk what you could really want TB for in a desktop system if you haven't run out of PCIe slots. 

[benjaminduk]

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Thunderbolt 4 is going to be what you want. Though idk what you could really want TB for in a desktop system if you haven't run out of PCIe slots. 

I do Music Composing and most high end Audio Interfaces use Thunderbolt like Universal Audio Apollos.

[wheza]

Yo! I have a Focusrite Clarett 2pre and need a thunderbolt port too.. I've just sent in a customer query to asrock asking when their x570 Creator board with the 2 thunderbolt ports will be available. Unsure why only asrock picked up on this market. It's niche but it's for people like us! Pre-ordered my 3900x too and looking to get Albeton Live and Pro Tools next.

[Reedith]

Hey guys I share your frustration for lack of thunderbolt 3. it's the thing that's kept me away from AMD I'm currently using the Asus prime x299 deluxe II motherboard with a 10 core Intel processor that motherboard has 2 thunderbolt 3 slots supported natively on the chipset

For those of you wondering why we still want thunderbolt 3 people in the audio industry or film industry or just creative industry all of the high-end external devices hard drives memory card readers etc use thunderbolt 3 because that's the fastest way to connect something to your computer right now


I'm also looking to use thunderbolt 3 to connect my computer to my keyboard mouse and monitor on the other side of the room by using Cornings optical cable just like Linus did with Thunderbolt 2. but corning hasn't released their thunderbolt 3 optical cables yet and won't respond to my emails asking them about it but Linus did say on a recent wan they are supposed to send him one soon so- hopefully soon


What's up with Asus not supporting thunderbolt 3 on x570 !!?? They have a thunderbolt breakout card and support it on a lot of their old motherboards !!

Thunderbolt is one of those things that's not documented very well it's very hard to find out what motherboards support it and which don't !!

[Koxicain]

19 hours ago, benjaminduk said:

I've been looking through the new AMD X570 motherboards and it seems that only the Asrock Motherboards support Thunderbolt 3 either directly or through an expansion card. I know that Thunderbolt is an Intel system, which means it needs to be licensed, but I find it kind of strange that only Asrock is supporting Thunderbolt 3 and not the other main manufacturers like Asus, MSI, Gigabyte. 

 

Unless I'm missing something of course.

 

x570 Aorus Master has a TB3 header

[Reedith]

tb header is great but supporting it natively on the chipset would be even better 

[benjaminduk]

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x570 Aorus Master has a TB3 header 

Wow this is not even in the specifications on the official webpage. I saw it in a video where it's hidden. Not sure why this is not mentioned.

 

Are there any other Gigabyte boards that will have this header?

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10#sp

[Koxicain]

5 minutes ago, benjaminduk said:

Wow this is not even in the specifications on the official webpage. I saw it in a video where it's hidden. Not sure why this is not mentioned.

 

Are there any other Gigabyte boards that will have this header?

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-10#sp

Yeah idk either. But its there

[benjaminduk]

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Yeah idk either. But its there 

Hey thanks for pointing this out. I would never have seen it since they don't even document it. I'm assuming you can just use the Gigabyte thunderbolt add-on card for it?

[Koxicain]

45 minutes ago, benjaminduk said:

Hey thanks for pointing this out. I would never have seen it since they don't even document it. I'm assuming you can just use the Gigabyte thunderbolt add-on card for it?

I would think so yeah but tbh i have no idea how that stuff works

[Reedith]

1 hour ago, benjaminduk said:

Hey thanks for pointing this out. I would never have seen it since they don't even document it. I'm assuming you can just use the Gigabyte thunderbolt add-on card for it?

i think the latest one is titan ridge? i got one of those to try to use with thread ripper but never tried it out 

[benjaminduk]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the "Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO" also has a Thunderbolt header.

[Reedith]

20 hours ago, benjaminduk said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the "Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO" also has a Thunderbolt header.

idk the TPM header ? is that what you mean?

[Leanora]

20 hours ago, benjaminduk said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the "Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO" also has a Thunderbolt header.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-rev-10#sp

 

thunderbolt aint listed.

 

 

Anyway for thunderbolt 3 on AMD you most likely need to wait for USB 4.0 which will hopefully come out on X670, next year together with Ryzen 2 refresh.

 

If asrock supports it, sure go with that one. I personally am surprised that there is a company supporting it on x570 boards.

 

 

[benjaminduk]

 

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https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-rev-10#sp

 

thunderbolt aint listed.

 

Don't look at the Spec listing. It doesn't list the Thunderbolt header. If you look at pics and watch the videos where people go through the board you will see there are Thunderbolt headers on some of the boards called "THB-C".  

[TexasNightOwl]

This is from a seller on Amazon:
"Traditionally the Aorus Master doesn't support Thunderbolt. The Aorus Extreme is the only model in the Aorus series lineup that supports that feature. However, I don't believe Gigabyte kept that enabled for even the Extreme models this time around.
A lot of reviewers used pre-revision 1.0 models where it seemed Givabyte was going to use the feature pre-launch. However after launch all 1.0 revisions do not have the connector and there are only 4 contacts on the pcb where the port would have gone. "

 

I have looked at the rev 1.0 pictures on their web site and it is blank space where the header was in the pre-release boards.  Sorry, looks like ASRock is it.

[DISTRESS0R]

Hello there first time posting. It appears there are still no new thunderbolt motherboard options on the market yet for x570. An AMD 3900x offers such incredible performance, and would be great to pair with a protools system and Thunderbolt interface. Fingers crossed some new options get announced in the near future

[Bront]

On 7/8/2019 at 8:01 AM, DrMacintosh said:

Thunderbolt 4 is going to be what you want. Though idk what you could really want TB for in a desktop system if you haven't run out of PCIe slots. 

I can help out here - ever tried moving around video and/or lots of photos for editing - it makes sense then.
Have a TB3 external PCIe enclosure and have several 2.5" 1.94TB SSDs (bought used from a friend who works with servers,  so relatively cheap)  on NVMe PCIe cards for it for more very fast storage that is sort of portable (especially when compared to the desktop)
Also easier to swap between SSD's without having to access the inside of and restart the desktop.
Don't really care if the TB3 is on the rear IO or via a motherboard header with a PCIe card (no motherboard header = no TB3), but having access to either would definitely help speed things up. :-)
Other people might find other uses, but that is what I want it for.

Not to sure about TB4 after reading articles saying things like - "Details are scarce, but Intel says its four times faster than USB 3.1 (10Gbps), meaning it tops out at 40Gbps – the same speed as v3."
Maybe USB 4 might be a better option - "Note that the upcoming USB 4 is based on Thunderbolt 3 and can reach the same speeds. Also, it’s royalty-free, so it should gain wider adoption than Thunderbolt " 
I wonder if there is an adaptor between TB3 and USB 4??
 

[phyco88]

I know this is an old thread, But doing some digging around the internet and you DO NOT need a TB3 header on an x570 motherboard if the BIOS supports TB3. all you need to do is jump pins 3 and 5 on the TB header cable! tested on my x570 aorus elite with titan ridge 2.0

[Nik Mik]

That being said, would I be able to use my Apollo Twin X through a Thunderbolt 3 option card with my AMD 5950x CPU? Or do I need to use an Intel CPU?

 

Sorry I'm building my first PC and I NEED to be able to use my apollo, just curious how that's gonna work.