Navi/Ryzen 3000 launch Megathread

[S w a t s o n]

Am I missing something here? It seems like all the chips are hitting socket power/heat density limits. Why the fuck does x570 have so many insanely high end overclocking boards?

Honestly I'm going to have to see if threadrippers much much higher socket power limits mean a real overclock can be achieved

[realpetertdm]

R9 3900X is MATCHING the i9 9900K in CSGO.

 

What the fuck.

 

Just take my fucking money Lisa Su

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, S w a t s o n said:

Am I missing something here? It seems like all the chips are hitting socket power/heat density limits. Why the fuck does x570 have so many insanely high end overclocking boards?

Honestly I'm going to have to see if threadrippers much much higher socket power limits mean a real overclock can be achieved

Because RGB eats up a lot of power.

[dfsdfgfkjsefoiqzemnd]

@LukeSavenije  Level1 also dropped their video.  Almost 4 minutes of it is intro sketch though ...

 

EDIT : scratch that, skip to 6:45

 

 

[RobFRaschke]

Just now, realpetertdm said:

R9 3900X is MATCHING the i9 9900K.

 

What the fuck.

 

Just take my fucking money Lisa Su

In single-core it is, are you looking at these productivity scores though. WOOOOOO. Finally.

[xtroria]

Both 3600 and 3600x are available in australia to order, seems like you can actually pick them up tomorrow (basically 9-10 hours after i posted this)

 

3900X on the other hand are still on pre-order

[greenhorn]

I just watched Bitwit's review after the LTT video. It looks like Kyle has results which seem to look a bit more favorable for Intel.

Things I would like to know that I have not seen in any video I have watched so far: 1.  Comparison of R7/R9 3000 series vs Threadripper 2000 series, 2. Can PCIe Gen4 lanes somehow be converted into double the amount of PCIe Gen3 lanes to have a larger number of devices well connected to the PCIe bus?

[Lathlaer]

Nice, I am very satisfied with what I see.

 

I am not upgrading yet, I think I will wait for Intel's shrinked process release and their next HEDT offer and then I will make my decision but this here makes me glad that we can expect great things next year or so.

[NumLock21]

According to anand. More power hungry chipset tdp means more pcie lanes. 

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, greenhorn said:

an PCIe Gen4 lanes somehow be converted into double the amount of PCIe Gen3 lanes to have a larger number of devices well connected to the PCIe bus?

no, that's not how pcie works

 

it works backwards, but will still use as many lanes

[RobFRaschke]

Just now, greenhorn said:

I just watched Bitwit's review after the LTT video. It looks like Kyle has results which seem to look a bit more favorable for Intel.

Things I would like to know that I have not seen in any video I have watched so far: 1.  Comparison of R7/R9 3000 series vs Threadripper 2000 series, 2. Can PCIe Gen4 lanes somehow be converted into double the amount of PCIe Gen3 lanes to have a larger number of devices well connected to the PCIe bus?

That would only be possible via a PLX chip which would increase the cost dramatically. And with how PLX chips work, it wouldn't much matter if they output PCIe3 or PCIe4 except in complexity of trace design.

[Lathlaer]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

no, that's not how pcie works

 

it works backwards, but will still use as many lanes

Yeah, it's like comparing two 16-lanes highways with one with considerable better surface. It will allow the cars to go much faster but you can still fit 16 cars next to each other

[TheNaitsyrk]

It's safe to say I'm getting the 16 core.

 

Time to sell my 970 Evo Plus 1TB and 500GB one also.

 

My binned 9900K needs to go to along with Z390 Aorus Master.

 

RAM possibly too as sweetspot changed to 3733.....

 

AORUS Master X570 is £395.... God damn.

[imreloadin]

14 minutes ago, S w a t s o n said:

Am I missing something here? It seems like all the chips are hitting socket power/heat density limits. Why the fuck does x570 have so many insanely high end overclocking boards?

Honestly I'm going to have to see if threadrippers much much higher socket power limits mean a real overclock can be achieved

Because you've just gotta have an excuse for these not hitting 5 Ghz like all your previous claims said they would right

[S w a t s o n]

Just now, imreloadin said:

Because you've just gotta have an excuse for these not hitting 5 Ghz like all your previous claims said they would right

>The socket literally will not deliver more power
>Excuse

Yes, yes that's how that works. It's definitely my bad that AMD set the socket power limit to 140W on AM4....

[Giganthrax]

So when are we going to know for sure if Ryzen 3000 is going to work fine on X370 boards? Can't seem to find any concrete info.

[imreloadin]

2 minutes ago, S w a t s o n said:

>The socket literally will not deliver more power
>Excuse

Yes, yes that's how that works. It's definitely my bad that AMD set the socket power limit to 140W on AM4....

What's your excuse going to be then when it's the same with TR?

[Ravendarat]

I love what I am seeing but hate that it seems like the supply wont be there. Its a real pity when manufactures dont have the product available for launch when customers are literally standing there with money in hand wanting to give it to them and the companies put themselves in a situation where they cant take it. I looked all over the internet starting at midnight last night and couldnt find a 3900x to come to Canada anywhere. Gave up at about 2:30 and checked again this morning after embargo lifted. No dice so I just did a order request at my local MemX store and will just have to wait longer to get my rig back up and running. At least I managed to find my x570 MEG Ace board

 

3 hours ago, Giganthrax said:

So when are we going to know for sure if Ryzen 3000 is going to work fine on X370 boards? Can't seem to find any concrete info.

In Jayz video he confirmed it

[S w a t s o n]

Just now, imreloadin said:

What's your excuse going to be then when it's the same with TR?

Well considering the TR4 socket supports a TDP 250W CPU and can draw more than 250W, I expect clocks to be much better. The chips are literally being power constrained, more power = more clocks

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Giganthrax said:

So when are we going to know for sure if Ryzen 3000 is going to work fine on X370 boards? Can't seem to find any concrete info.

currently only beta bios updates can do that from what i can see

 

amd leaves it up to the manifacturers

[INABLITY]

Asus X370-f will be support ryzen 3000 ?

I don't see new bios for ryzen 3gen at ASUS ROG STRIX X370-F GAMING, any news about it?

[imreloadin]

1 minute ago, S w a t s o n said:

Well considering the TR4 socket supports a TDP 250W CPU and can draw more than 250W, I expect clocks to be much better. The chips are literally being power constrained, more power = more clocks

Because that's how it worked with previous TR versions right

[Taf the Ghost]

4 minutes ago, Giganthrax said:

So when are we going to know for sure if Ryzen 3000 is going to work fine on X370 boards? Can't seem to find any concrete info.

Whenever your motherboard has a compatible BIOS. 

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, INABLITY said:

Asus X370-f will be support ryzen 3000 ?

I don't see new bios for ryzen 3gen at ASUS ROG STRIX X370-F GAMING, any news about it?

maybe, i've only seen beta bios's from some so far

 

it's up to the manifacturer if they do or not

[ybriK]

Fast and furious.