UK Price Gouging Begins on Navi Cards

[Anomnomnomaly]

Just found the first RX5700 up for sale on Amazon this morning

 

 

Only £506.17 for the NON XT model

 

 

In US that's about  $655

 

Fuck these price gouging scumbags

[porina]

Might be a placeholder until they have stock. Let's see when they're really available.

[MimigaKing]

My bad, took wrong card. nvm

 

[Spotty]

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Does not meet the Tech News guidelines. Complaining about the price of an item on Amazon is not Tech News.

 

They're listed as unavailable/out of stock. Could just be placeholder prices. Wait until it's actually available for sale, and if you still don't like the price then don't buy it. Keep in mind UK will pay 20% VAT on top of the MSRP.

[Anomnomnomaly]

1 hour ago, Spotty said:

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Does not meet the Tech News guidelines. Complaining about the price of an item on Amazon is not Tech News.

 

They're listed as unavailable/out of stock. Could just be placeholder prices. Wait until it's actually available for sale, and if you still don't like the price then don't buy it. Keep in mind UK will pay 20% VAT on top of the MSRP.

 

It's not the VAT that's the problem, it's that if something retails for $350 US then it's pretty certain that it will retail for about £350 UK or much, much higher... No matter how good the exchange rate is. It's always been like this... So much so that in the past I've had friends ship me stuff from the US/Canada and even after import duties and VAT... they've still ended up being much cheaper.

 

I remember when I used to buy Region 1 DVD's from a Canadian company called DVDsoon and you could get 2 movies imported for less than the price of 1 movie in the UK.

[Spotty]

@Anomnomnomaly Product has just been launched. RX 5700 and RX 5700 XT have now been listed on UK retailer websites.

Looking at around 330 pounds ($415 USD) for the RX 5700 and 390 pounds ($490 USD) for the RX 5700 XT. Considering the MSRP is USD$349 and USD$399 before tax, when you factor in the 20% VAT in UK the prices are in line with US pricing.

 

https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/gpu-amd/2941/2942

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/graphics-cards/amd/amd-rx-5700-series

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/graphics-cards/amd/radeon-rx-5700-xt-series

[Anomnomnomaly]

23 minutes ago, Spotty said:

@Anomnomnomaly Product has just been launched. RX 5700 and RX 5700 XT have now been listed on UK retailer websites.

Looking at around 330 pounds ($415 USD) for the RX 5700 and 390 pounds ($490 USD) for the RX 5700 XT. Considering the MSRP is USD$349 and USD$399 before tax, when you factor in the 20% VAT in UK the prices are in line with US pricing.

 

https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/gpu-amd/2941/2942

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/graphics-cards/amd/amd-rx-5700-series

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/graphics-cards/amd/radeon-rx-5700-xt-series

The sites I hadn't yet checked... Scan & Overclockers... not even listed on aria and ebuyer... and Scan doesn't work if you use a VPN because they demand you complete capatcha. So they kinda lose my custom for crap like that.

[Spotty]

Just now, Anomnomnomaly said:

The sites I hadn't yet checked... Scan & Overclockers... not even listed on aria and ebuyer... and Scan doesn't work if you use a VPN because they demand you complete capatcha. So they kinda lose my custom for crap like that.

Amazon.co.uk has listed available products now that the embargo has lifted. 340 pounds for the RX5700 and 390 pounds for the RX5700 XT.

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-Radeon-5700-3xDP-HDMI/dp/B07T81CGFY

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-Radeon-GDDR6-TRIPLE-Graphics/dp/B07TFRMJXH

https://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-Radeon-5700-3xDP-HDMI/dp/B07TB5FBV6/

 

Though, personally I would wait for the AIB partner cards with open air coolers.

[Anomnomnomaly]

So if I understand the current RX5700/XT pricing

 

$399 for the XT variant

$349 for the non XT

 

Is that before or after the news that AMD is cutting the price by $50?

 

 

What we are seeing at this time is UK prices vary between £389-£419 depending on brand name (Powercolor cheap, ASUS expensive with Saphire being a little more than Powercolor, but in my opinion a decent brand whilst powercolor are pretty poor)... this is for the XT variant on stock cooler.

 

The lower 5700 is £329-379... with a similar spread depending on brand name.

 

So at this time... if the extra $50 reduction has been applied to those prices... Yup, we're getting screwed as usual... A more accurate price would be £289 and £329 for each one respectively.

[Anomnomnomaly]

6 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Amazon.co.uk has listed available products now that the embargo has lifted. 340 pounds for the RX5700 and 390 pounds for the RX5700 XT.

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-Radeon-5700-3xDP-HDMI/dp/B07T81CGFY

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-Radeon-GDDR6-TRIPLE-Graphics/dp/B07TFRMJXH

https://www.amazon.co.uk/XFX-Radeon-5700-3xDP-HDMI/dp/B07TB5FBV6/

 

Though, personally I would wait for the AIB partner cards with open air coolers.

Yeah I'll be waiting for AIB, simply because I want to see how prices fluctuate and better coolers... I don't need to upgrade right away and I want the best value vs performance.

 

Currently watching a load of Ryzen 3xxx series reviews and benchmarks... and it's very hit and miss as everyone is doing tests differently with some seemingly very biased and  favouring intel in the way they run their tests.

 

 

[Spotty]

4 minutes ago, Anomnomnomaly said:

So if I understand the current RX5700/XT pricing

 

$399 for the XT variant

$349 for the non XT

 

Is that before or after the news that AMD is cutting the price by $50?

Old pricing:

• Radeon RX 5700 XT: $449
• Radeon RX 5700: $379

New pricing after price drop:

• Radeon RX 5700 XT: $399
• Radeon RX 5700: $349

 

6 minutes ago, Anomnomnomaly said:

What we are seeing at this time is UK prices vary between £389-£419 depending on brand name (Powercolor cheap, ASUS expensive with Saphire being a little more than Powercolor, but in my opinion a decent brand whilst powercolor are pretty poor)... this is for the XT variant on stock cooler. 

 

The lower 5700 is £329-379... with a similar spread depending on brand name.

 

So at this time... if the extra $50 reduction has been applied to those prices... Yup, we're getting screwed as usual... A more accurate price would be £289 and £329 for each one respectively. 

There will always be small variance in price depending on the vendor as well as the store you are buying from.
When you factor in the UK's 20% sales tax (VAT) the £330 and £380 pricing are on par with the US MSRP.

RX 5700

USD $350 plus 20% sales tax = USD $420 (£335)

RX 5700 XT

USD $400 plus 20% sales tax = USD $480 (£383)

So if the 20% VAT is already included in UK prices then the £330 and £380 pounds they are advertised for is actually slightly cheaper than US prices.

 

I just checked by adding the cards from some of those websites I have listed to the shopping cart, and they show the price as "Inc. VAT"

380 pounds for the RX 5700 XT including 20% sales tax.

 

You can't blame AMD for your countries high sales tax.

[Madgemade]

9 minutes ago, Spotty said:

So if the 20% VAT is already included in UK prices then the £330 and £380 pounds they are advertised for is actually slightly cheaper than US prices.

VAT is always included by law in EU countries. No website will show prices without it unless they are not selling to consumers.

It really ought to be cheaper than US prices given the trump tariffs (25%). Assuming most people in the US will not be paying any sales tax it still ends up much cheaper, but that's true for everything tech in general.

[Spotty]

11 minutes ago, Madgemade said:

VAT is always included by law in EU countries. No website will show prices without it unless they are not selling to consumers.

Thought that might be the case (same here in Australia), but I wasn't certain since OP was still complaining about prices.

 

18 minutes ago, Madgemade said:

It really ought to be cheaper than US prices given the trump tariffs (25%).

I thought AMD CPUs were manufactured in Taiwan? Maybe the US-China trade tariff doesn't apply to Taiwan? (I actually don't know if US includes Taiwan as part of China in their trade war)

[James300]

You can buy directly from AMD even if you're in the UK.

 

Oddly it seems that they have the 5700/5700XT and anniversary edition GPUs, but only the 3900x CPU.

 

The 5700XT is £393 shipped, and I'm torn between that or the 2070 Super to pair with a 3700X

 

Edit: Just gone with the 5700XT. I don't game often or seriously enough to justify the extra £80

[Anomnomnomaly]

1 hour ago, Spotty said:

Old pricing:

• Radeon RX 5700 XT: $449
• Radeon RX 5700: $379

New pricing after price drop:

• Radeon RX 5700 XT: $399
• Radeon RX 5700: $349

 

There will always be small variance in price depending on the vendor as well as the store you are buying from.
When you factor in the UK's 20% sales tax (VAT) the £330 and £380 pricing are on par with the US MSRP.

RX 5700

USD $350 plus 20% sales tax = USD $420 (£335)

RX 5700 XT

USD $400 plus 20% sales tax = USD $480 (£383)

So if the 20% VAT is already included in UK prices then the £330 and £380 pounds they are advertised for is actually slightly cheaper than US prices.

 

I just checked by adding the cards from some of those websites I have listed to the shopping cart, and they show the price as "Inc. VAT"

380 pounds for the RX 5700 XT including 20% sales tax.

 

You can't blame AMD for your countries high sales tax.

 

 

Ah, I completely forgot that the US show the prices without your version of VAT

[Anomnomnomaly]

1 hour ago, Madgemade said:

VAT is always included by law in EU countries. No website will show prices without it unless they are not selling to consumers.

It really ought to be cheaper than US prices given the trump tariffs (25%). Assuming most people in the US will not be paying any sales tax it still ends up much cheaper, but that's true for everything tech in general.

 

Whilst the price does have to inc VAT by law... you find a lot of sites give you both figures... and then they ALWAYS add the VAT on after calculating and adding any shipping costs... Which has the effect of giving themselves a little extra profit margin as they have fixed rate shipping costs which should have VAT already included.  It's one of those grey areas that the tax office seems to overlook.